Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

P.Walnuts

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

Ireland 56, Spain 83.

Hmmmmm

I'm not just arguing with you for the sake of it....but how can you have a crime index for 2018 when it's only June?

Just to touch on what another poster mentioned, Spain is a hub for most of Europe's crime gangs, Russian Mafia, British and Irish gangs, North African gangs....plenty of international links that simply don't exist here.

But in fairness to you I asked for stats and you produced, so I do take that on board.

Wanderer78

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Italy - Mafia
France - similar to slightly poorer climate
Australia- distance/citizenship/no entry with criminal convictions

i know people that got into Australia with a criminal convictions

PokeHerKing

Wanderer78 wrote:

i know people that got into Australia with a criminal convictions

Your point is...? People get into the states as well. So what. Why would someone with money to burn fly all the way to Australia to liveillegally for the weather when they can take a 3 hour flight to Spain.

Live legally, spend/flaunt their money as they want and still get a tan?

Wanderer78

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Italy - Mafia
France - similar to slightly poorer climate
Australia- distance/citizenship/no entry with criminal convictions

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Your point is...? People get into the states as well. So what. Why would someone with money to burn fly all the way to Australia to liveillegally for the weather when they can take a 3 hour flight to Spain.

Live legally, spend/flaunt their money as they want and still get a tan?

????

not yet

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Hmmmmm

I'm not just arguing with you for the sake of it....but how can you have a crime index for 2018 when it's only June?

Just to touch on what another poster mentioned, Spain is a hub for most of Europe's crime gangs, Russian Mafia, British and Irish gangs, North African gangs....plenty of international links that simply don't exist here.

But in fairness to you I asked for stats and you produced, so I do take that on board.

Ireland has all the above and throw in Polish, Albanian, Nigerian and Travellers...

PokeHerKing

Wanderer78 wrote:

????

Ok just for you:

Australia- no LEGAL entry with criminal convictions.

Happy?

Thesomersarms

One thing I’m confused about with the feud is up until recently the figure put out by the press was 14 men had lost their lives as a result of it but recently some journalists and i think the guards said it as well (could be wrong on guards saying it) that 18 people had lost their lives, is it 14 or actually 18? staggering all that loss of life. If it is 18 who are the other men that died?

Ash.J.Williams

Wanderer78 wrote: »

i know people that got into Australia with a criminal convictions

The "hit team" arrested in enniscorthy were back from Australia

Suckit

Thesomersarms wrote: »

One thing I’m confused about with the feud is up until recently the figure put out by the press was 14 men had lost their lives as a result of it but recently some journalists and i think the guards said it as well (could be wrong on guards saying it) that 18 people had lost their lives, is it 14 or actually 18? staggering all that loss of life. If it is 18 who are the other men that died?

There are a couple of deaths that the media are not sure whether or not they were connected to the feud.

White lighting

Thesomersarms wrote: »

One thing I’m confused about with the feud is up until recently the figure put out by the press was 14 men had lost their lives as a result of it but recently some journalists and i think the guards said it as well (could be wrong on guards saying it) that 18 people had lost their lives, is it 14 or actually 18? staggering all that loss of life. If it is 18 who are the other men that died?

Yeah lots of talk abput it been 18. Not sure who the 14 say confirmed are but loads have left out Daniel Kearns eho was blamed along with Douglas for the failed hit at red cow. Another one that in recent months has been linked to the fued is Vinny Ryan. Most obviouslt taught was linked to the fued his brother lost his life in but reading between the line it seems that murder is been counted in hutch kinahan fued

White lighting

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The "hit team" arrested in enniscorthy were back from Australia

Yeah your man Byrne was supposedly in oz at some stage. Dont no how the dirtbird got even that far he was caught and has served a sentence for been caught with your man Beatty in process doing hit few years ago. He has according to media been arrested now about three times in process of new hits. The studip **** is either a complete scummer or caught by the bollox woth money owed and has to do what hes told. Interestingly the Hearld ran a story that a hitman who recently was caught with byrne is main suspect in Buda molyneux murder

rondog

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Any stats to back that up?

I think you are way, way off the mark.

http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

Ireland 56, Spain 83.

Im sorry but Iraq and Palestinian territories safer tha Ireland???really?

tomofson

White lighting wrote: »

Yeah your man Byrne was supposedly in oz at some stage. Dont no how the dirtbird got even that far he was caught and has served a sentence for been caught with your man Beatty in process doing hit few years ago. He has according to media been arrested now about three times in process of new hits. The studip **** is either a complete scummer or caught by the bollox woth money owed and has to do what hes told. Interestingly the Hearld ran a story that a hitman who recently was caught with byrne is main suspect in Buda molyneux murder

He is also the suspect in at least on murder in the sheriff street area.

tomofson

I just seen one of the suspects in the murder and disappearance of willie maughan and his girlfriend was shot and seriously injured in drogheda yesterday, for some reason it got very little media coverage.

White lighting

Media only really care if its related to the Hutch/Kinahan fued. The only reason they really report anything thats happening in Finglas fued is they are relating it to Hutch/Kinahan

North inner city hoodlum

https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/1018948284663193601?s=19

Ages are 25 and 28 from the irish independent.

Did the 2 men arrested for the failed hit in Wexford on a hutch family member get bail at that time?

Gadgetman496

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/two-arrested-as-loaded-firearm-seized-after-gardai-stop-car-37124919.html

Gadgetman496

Enemy of the state: Kinahan cartel used woman in State job to hide assets

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/enemy-of-the-state-kinahan-cartel-used-woman-in-state-job-to-hide-assets-37125780.html

Muahahaha

Regency trial was adjourned again on July 9th but this time only for 3 weeks, it should resume early to mid August once the defence have read the interim report on the death of Detective Colm Fox. Report will contain details of his phone & email records.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/regency-hotel-shooting-trial-adjourned-for-further-three-weeks-1.3558887

hatrickpatrick

Muahahaha wrote: »

Regency trial was adjourned again on July 9th but this time only for 3 weeks, it should resume early to mid August once the defence have read the interim report on the death of Detective Colm Fox. Report will contain details of his phone & email records.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/regency-hotel-shooting-trial-adjourned-for-further-three-weeks-1.3558887

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm immensely curious about what happened there - and fairly frustrated knowing that it's likely the public will never find out.

Muahahaha

Very curious myself as are many. We may never know the exact details but if the trial should collapse in August it will be very difficult to keep the details out of the media unless the judge imposes a reporting ban.

hatrickpatrick

Muahahaha wrote: »

Very curious myself as are many. We may never know the exact details but if the trial should collapse in August it will be very difficult to keep the details out of the media unless the judge imposes a reporting ban.

Journalist Gemma O'Doherty has very cryptically alluded to knowing what this is all about in a couple of tweets, in which she suggested that public opinion of certain individuals involved would change drastically once the whole situation is revealed. I won't link them due to Boards rules about direct discussion of court cases, but you can easily find them yourself on her Twitter - they're not very far back in the timeline, only a month or two.

I have to say that I feel the accused in that case is probably safer and better off staying in custody than being let go. The very first scene of Love/Hate in which Darren's brother Robbie is murdered literally seconds after walking out of prison comes horribly to mind. If he's acquitted, surely they'll have to find a way to sneak him out of jail and into a safehouse of some kind, to preclude the very serious danger of his being targeted immediately upon release.

Anyone know if there's any precedent for this? IE, for someone with a massive threat to their life being somehow released from jail incognito or under massive Garda protection until they get somewhere safe?

Ash.J.Williams

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Journalist Gemma O'Doherty has very cryptically alluded to knowing what this is all about in a couple of tweets, in which she suggested that public opinion of certain individuals involved would change drastically once the whole situation is revealed. I won't link them due to Boards rules about direct discussion of court cases, but you can easily find them yourself on her Twitter - they're not very far back in the timeline, only a month or two.

I have to say that I feel the accused in that case is probably safer and better off staying in custody than being let go. The very first scene of Love/Hate in which Darren's brother Robbie is murdered literally seconds after walking out of prison comes horribly to mind. If he's acquitted, surely they'll have to find a way to sneak him out of jail and into a safehouse of some kind, to preclude the very serious danger of his being targeted immediately upon release.

Anyone know if there's any precedent for this? IE, for someone with a massive threat to their life being somehow released from jail incognito or under massive Garda protection until they get somewhere safe?

I'd say he'd be quietly freed and would emigrate

Suckit

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Journalist Gemma O'Doherty has very cryptically alluded to knowing what this is all about in a couple of tweets, in which she suggested that public opinion of certain individuals involved would change drastically once the whole situation is revealed. I won't link them due to Boards rules about direct discussion of court cases, but you can easily find them yourself on her Twitter - they're not very far back in the timeline, only a month or two.

I think links are allowed.

not yet

Suckit wrote: »

I think links are allowed.

LAZY BOLLIX..:D

Suckit

not yet wrote: »

LAZY BOLLIX..:D

A month or two back... of Tweets?? ... good luck... :P:D

not yet

Suckit wrote: »

A month or two back... of Tweets?? ... good luck... :P:D

Just tried it there and fell asleep before June..

allthedoyles

not yet wrote: »

Just tried it there and fell asleep before June..

Just tried it here too , and a lot of her tweets actually opened my eyes

glenfieldman

allthedoyles wrote: »

Just tried it here too , and a lot of her tweets actually opened my eyes

Im still at it,
She seems a bloody good hack

Suckit

Yeah, loads to look at.
But after you get so far can't help wondering if she wears a tinfoil hat a lot of the time.

I don't doubt everything she writes, but living in that all the time, must have you going a little... bonkers.