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Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What sort of sentence will he be looking at?


  • Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    What sort of sentence will he be looking at?

    Max 25 for the murder & 3 for the gun charge


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    And minimum 20 I beleive


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    It doesn't really seem like a lot.
    He could be sharing a cell with the King of Spains brother-in-law or Ronaldo... :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,389 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Another shooting of a man in his 40's on on La Touche Rd ,Bluebell last night.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0616/970913-shooting-bluebell/

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,389 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    SEVENTEEN senior members and associates linked to the Hutch and Kinahan gangland war are now in exile, the Irish Sun on Sunday can reveal.


    Although godfather Christy Kinahan and his two sons, Daniel and Christopher Jnr, along with mobster Sean McGovern, remain in Dubai, other members of Ireland’s most dangerous crime gang are spread throughout the world.


    https://www.thesun.ie/news/2689812/seventeen-hutch-kinahan-gangland-exile/


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,625 ✭✭✭Luckycharms_74


    Irish man James Quinn has been sentenced to 22 years in prison.

    State prosecutors had told his murder trial judge they wanted him jailed for the maximum 25 years for the murder of Gary Hutch and three years for illegal weapons possession.

    But judge Ernesto Carlos Manzano sentenced him to only 20 years for murder - the minimum he could have got under Spanish law - and two years for the gun crime.

    Lawyers for Quinn, 35, had announced they would appeal after jurors found him guilty of the two crimes last Friday after a four-day trial.

    His defence lawyers had asked for the judge to sentence him to the minimum term

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-found-guilty-of-hutch-murder-sentenced-to-22-years-in-prison-37034204.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭benny79


    How many will he actually do? its hardly like Irish law that they get a 1/3th off for good behaviour. You have to admire the spanish courts a murder trial done and dusted in a week and sentence a week later. If that was here it would drag on for weeks and cost the taxpayer millions..


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,372 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    benny79 wrote: »
    How many will he actually do? its hardly like Irish law that they get a 1/3th off for good behaviour. You have to admire the spanish courts a murder trial done and dusted in a week and sentence a week later. If that was here it would drag on for weeks and cost the taxpayer millions..


    it seems like he will do the full stretch. a quick google shows that they dont do remission for good behaviour in spain.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


    benny79 wrote: »
    How many will he actually do? its hardly like Irish law that they get a 1/3th off for good behaviour. You have to admire the spanish courts a murder trial done and dusted in a week and sentence a week later. If that was here it would drag on for weeks and cost the taxpayer millions..
    Depends on the amount of evidence they have go through. A Murder case was finished up within three days yesterday with a guilty verdict.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


    benny79 wrote: »
    How many will he actually do? its hardly like Irish law that they get a 1/3th off for good behaviour. You have to admire the spanish courts a murder trial done and dusted in a week and sentence a week later. If that was here it would drag on for weeks and cost the taxpayer millions..
    Depends on the amount of evidence they have go through. A Murder case was finished up within three days yesterday with a guilty verdict.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,389 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    He'll never pay the 90k awarded to the Hutch family either.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    He'll never pay the 90k awarded to the Hutch family either.

    He'll probably need that to pay off anyone that may be tempted to take a hit on him in Gaol.
    If I was a Hutch, I would be paying every inmate in there to kill him. It started the whole thing.. More or less.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    He'll never pay the 90k awarded to the Hutch family either.

    The 'John Smith's Twitter account has been tweeting Jamie Moore asking for the 200k back seeing as they reneged on the deal.

    I don't think Jamie has replied yet.:pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    pablo128 wrote: »
    The 'John Smith's Twitter account has been tweeting Jamie Moore asking for the 200k back seeing as they reneged on the deal.

    I don't think Jamie has replied yet.:pac:

    There is that 'rumoured' link between Patsy, Gary and Jamie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    it seems like he will do the full stretch. a quick google shows that they dont do remission for good behaviour in spain.

    No wonder Ireland and Spain’s crime and gang murders pale in significance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    No wonder Ireland and Spain’s crime and gang murders pale in significance.

    So are you saying Ireland has much worse crime and gang problem than Spain?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    So are you saying Ireland has much worse crime and gang problem than Spain?

    Yes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,077 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Yes.


    That's highly subjective isn't it? relative lived in Spain for a couple of years, mixing with some of their finest, isn't all that peaceful over there


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    That's highly subjective isn't it? relative lived in Spain for a couple of years, mixing with some of their finest, isn't all that peaceful over there

    One of the lowest crime rates in Europe no?


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,077 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    One of the lowest crime rates in Europe no?

    its important to realise, all data has errors and is highly subjective, and is sometimes meaningless, spain is probably just as dangerous as any developed country such as ours. its hard to measure the unmeasurable


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    So are you saying Ireland has much worse crime and gang problem than Spain?

    Yes.
    What a load of bollox.Spain has gangs from all over the Europe living there because the police cant deal with them and they openly flaunt there wealth on the costa del sol. Imagine English, Russian and what ever other gangs coming over to Ireland and living like kings. They wouldnt to the same degree. Spain is seen like an easy touch


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Homer


    Imagine English, Russian and what ever other gangs coming over to Ireland and living like kings. They wouldnt to the same degree. Spain is seen like an easy touch

    Its also a sh*tload warmer.. and nicer women :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    What a load of bollox.Spain has gangs from all over the Europe living there because the police cant deal with them and they openly flaunt there wealth on the costa del sol. Imagine English, Russian and what ever other gangs coming over to Ireland and living like kings. They wouldnt to the same degree. Spain is seen like an easy touch


    Nothing to do with the weather......


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


    What a load of bollox.Spain has gangs from all over the Europe living there because the police cant deal with them and they openly flaunt there wealth on the costa del sol. Imagine English, Russian and what ever other gangs coming over to Ireland and living like kings. They wouldnt to the same degree. Spain is seen like an easy touch


    Nothing to do with the weather......
    Italy,France,Australia are just three examples of other countries with nice weather and arent full of Irish and English scumbags. Its may be a factor but its not the main reason


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Yes.

    Any stats to back that up?

    I think you are way, way off the mark.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Homer


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Any stats to back that up?

    I think you are way, way off the mark.

    Have you any to back up your opinion? That will soften their cough...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Any stats to back that up?

    I think you are way, way off the mark.

    http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf

    https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

    Ireland 56, Spain 83.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Italy,France,Australia are just three examples of other countries with nice weather and arent full of Irish and English scumbags. Its may be a factor but its not the main reason

    Italy - Mafia
    France - similar to slightly poorer climate
    Australia- distance/citizenship/no entry with criminal convictions


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