Turning very warm/hot, heatwave conditions likely; Sunday 24th -->

Very cloudy here in north cork near Mallow. Not even a hint of hazy sunshine. Hopefully it will brighten up soon.

We had a nice steady breeze all day yesterday, made it very bearable.

Bright and sunny again today breeze still there.

Phoenix Park in dublin the warmest place in Ireland in the 10am met eireann readings at 21 degrees, dublin airport 20.

Nice and overcast here in Limerick, totally suitable for getting things done.

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

They massage the numbers to make the stats agree with whatever record they want you to believe was broken. It wssnt Ireland's hottest temp, it wasnt Ireland's longest heatwave, it's not Ireland's worst drought. It was a cracking week where one station briefly hit 32.0c.

It was however the hottest temperature ever recorded in Shannon, and likely for the region.

Still sunny with a clear sky on the Cork coast anyway, slightly hazy. can’t see clouds in the distance yet. Windy though.

Nice sunny morning here in kildare temps way back at 21..isn’t it mad that 21 now feels cold after last week

MJohnston wrote: »

This is really short sighted. Firstly, the point of a water tax was always to allow a national water authority to be able to repair and replace the countless instances of inefficient and broken water infrastructure components that are all over the country. Secondly, it would be extremely naive to rely upon the assumption that the weather will continue to do what it always has done.

Irish Water as an entity was a complete disaster in every way and I'm glad the water tax for it is dead, but the reality is we're going to need one in some form soon, because our climate is only going to become less predictable as the years pass.

There is absolutely no reason why the water infrastructure can't be maintained out of general taxation. I agree with metering for usage monitoring and leak detection, but not for charging households for reasonable consumption.

We have grants for improving insulation and energy efficiency, we can have grants for installing water saving measures and repairing leaks

MJohnston wrote: »

This is really short sighted. Firstly, the point of a water tax was always to allow a national water authority to be able to repair and replace the countless instances of inefficient and broken water infrastructure components that are all over the country. Secondly, it would be extremely naive to rely upon the assumption that the weather will continue to do what it always has done.

Irish Water as an entity was a complete disaster in every way and I'm glad the water tax for it is dead, but the reality is we're going to need one in some form soon, because our climate is only going to become less predictable as the years pass.

I never said that money doesn't need to be put into the infrastructure so calling me short sighted is quite unfair, and quite insulting.

I never suggested that our weather will stay the same, I pointed out that we usually have more water. When funds of €439 million in 2015 and €399 million in 2016 were taken out of the Local Government Fund (paid for with motor tax) to pay for 2/3 of Irish Water I don't think we need another push of "Pay for Water", that was the point I was making, noting about climate change or crumbling infrastructure.

I also agree totally with what @Akrasia said above.

dacogawa wrote: »

I never said that money doesn't need to be put into the infrastructure so calling me short sighted is quite unfair, and quite insulting.

I never suggested that our weather will stay the same, I pointed out that we usually have more water. When funds of €439 million in 2015 and €399 million in 2016 were taken out of the Local Government Fund (paid for with motor tax) to pay for 2/3 of Irish Water I don't think we need another push of "Pay for Water", that was the point I was making, noting about climate change or crumbling infrastructure.

I also agree totally with what @Akrasia said above.

Firstly I said your post was short-sighted, not you. When you say "when you have as much water as we usually have" it read like you were suggesting a kind of stasis of infrastructure would be fine, but if you don't think that, that's fair enough.


This isn't the thread for discussing Irish Water in general, but specifically regarding weather, we're going to be dealing with more extremes like these, and we're going to need some authority that prepares for that.


I also agree with what Akrasia and would point out that I did not say I think we should tax based on usage, I just said that we will need to pay for the future of water infrastructure through some form of tax.

Its about 19c in Ennis in a warm breeze. Overcast but no sign of rain