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  • #602
    M.Cribben
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    100 travellers invade historic Thwaites Brewery with 21 caravans then 'evict' staff and turn site into 'a disgusting mess'

    Unlike our own spineless liberal media, at least the UK are not afraid to report stories like this.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5781457/Mob-100-travellers-invade-historic-Thwaites-Brewery.html


  • #603
    Count Down
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    I think you might be a bit confused , Irish Travellers and Gypsies are different groups

    They're different branches of the same tree. Many Gypsies in Britain are of Irish origin - they only differ in name - some refer to themselves as Gypsies, some refer to themselves as Travellers.
    It's no surprise they come over to Ireland for weddings and funerals in their droves, and vice versa.


  • #604
    corner of hells
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    Count Down wrote: »
    They're different branches of the same tree. Many Gypsies in Britain are of Irish origin - they only differ in name - some refer to themselves as Gypsies, some refer to themselves as Travellers.
    It's no surprise they come over to Ireland for weddings and funerals in their droves, and vice versa.

    You might want to do a little research , Gypsy are Roma, believed to have originated in India.

    The word Gypsy is derived from the word Egyptian as people originally believed the were from Egypt.

    I've family from the UK who inter married into Gypsy families in the 1930s , interesting isn't it ?

    No Irish traveller blood at all , anywhere.


  • #605
    tomofson
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    You might want to do a little research , Gypsy are Roma, believed to have originated in India.

    The word Gypsy is derived from the word Egyptian as people originally believed the were from Egypt.

    I've family from the UK who inter married into Gypsy families in the 1930s , interesting isn't it ?

    No Irish traveller blood at all , anywhere.

    The romany and irish travellers have intermarried so much over the years they are almost the exact same.

    Its not actually known where the Irish traveller gene comes from, giving the fact they have the exact same traits and habits as all other gypsies across europe I would imagine they are genetically the same or very similar.


  • #606
    corner of hells
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    tomofson wrote: »
    The romany and irish travellers have intermarried so much over the years they are almost the exact same.

    Its not actually known where the Irish traveller gene comes from, giving the fact they have the exact same traits and habits as all other gypsies across europe I would imagine they are genetically the same or very similar.

    This is amazing stuff , do go on , give us empirical evidence of widescale intermarriage ?


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  • #607
    Pintman Paddy Losty
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    tomofson wrote: »
    The romany and irish travellers have intermarried so much over the years they are almost the exact same.

    Its not actually known where the Irish traveller gene comes from, giving the fact they have the exact same traits and habits as all other gypsies across europe I would imagine they are genetically the same or very similar.

    That's not true.

    Irish travellers are genetically the same as Irish. Completely unrelated to Roma gypsies. As stated before Roma originate in northern India and settles all across central and later western Europe. Irish travellers naturally enough originated in Ireland. The two groups have different languages and culture.

    However they do share the same proclivity for spousal abuse, child neglect, criminality and generally being human vermin.


  • #608
    tomofson
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    That's not true.

    Irish travellers are genetically the same as Irish. Completely unrelated to Roma gypsies. As stated before Roma originate in northern India and settles all across central and later western Europe. Irish travellers naturally enough originated in Ireland. The two groups have different languages and culture.

    However they do share the same proclivity for spousal abuse, child neglect, criminality and generally being human vermin.

    Their languages are almost identical, and the second part I agree with in full.


  • #609
    corner of hells
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    tomofson wrote: »
    Their languages are almost identical, and the second part I agree with in full.

    Roma and cant/shelta are almost identical ?


  • #610
    wexie
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    Roma and cant/shelta are almost identical ?

    Identical like Gaelic and Finnish are almost identical.


  • #611
    Gravelly
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    Roma and cant/shelta are almost identical ?

    Roma is a language, cant is just slang.


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  • #612
    tomofson
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    Roma and cant/shelta are almost identical ?

    Not roma but romany, or at least thats what an english gypsy once told me.


  • #613
    Blazer
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    M.Cribben wrote: »
    Unlike our own spineless liberal media, at least the UK are not afraid to report stories like this.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5781457/Mob-100-travellers-invade-historic-Thwaites-Brewery.html

    This is when you want the riot police with the most vicious dogs they have and turn them lose.
    Tasers, batons and dogs...and they’d still get off lightly in my opinion.


  • #614
    corner of hells
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    wexie wrote: »
    Identical like Gaelic and Finnish are almost identical.

    No idea , at a guess I'd imagine they have a purity with each language not changing hugely over thousands of years.


  • #615
    corner of hells
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    Gravelly wrote: »
    Roma is a language, cant is just slang.

    I'm in agreement with you there .


  • #616
    tomofson
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    No idea , at a guess I'd imagine they have a purity with each language not changing hugely over thousands of years.

    You are kidding yourself if you think roma and the gammon are thousands of years old.

    Don't give these so called communities too much credit, these are languages they made up themselves a few decades ago so other people couldn't understand what they are saying, while they are robbing and scamming.


  • #617
    corner of hells
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    tomofson wrote: »
    You are kidding yourself if you think roma and the gammon are thousands of years old.

    Don't give these so called communities too much credit, these are languages they made up themselves a few decades ago so other people couldn't understand what they are saying, while they are robbing and scamming.

    Erm I'm talking about Finnish and Gaelic .


  • #618
    corner of hells
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    tomofson wrote: »
    Not roma but romany, or at least thats what an english gypsy once told me.

    Gospel , so.


  • #619
    tomofson
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    Erm I'm talking about Finnish and Gaelic .

    Oh I see, lol well I hope so.


  • #620
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    Gravelly wrote: »
    Roma is a language, cant is just slang.

    Why are we distinguishing here, they're all facking cants.


  • #621
    corner of hells
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    Why are we distinguishing here, they're all facking cants.

    We're not , we've concluded that Irish Travellers and Gypsy/Roma are identical.

    Next we,ll draw comparison between hedgehogs and tomatoes


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  • #622
    tomofson
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    We're not , we've concluded that Irish Travellers and Gypsy/Roma are identical.

    Next we,ll draw comparison between hedgehogs and tomatoes

    There's not much cultural differences now is there?


  • #623
    Count Down
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    You might want to do a little research , Gypsy are Roma, believed to have originated in India.

    The word Gypsy is derived from the word Egyptian as people originally believed the were from Egypt.

    I've family from the UK who inter married into Gypsy families in the 1930s , interesting isn't it ?

    No Irish traveller blood at all , anywhere.

    The term Traveller/Gypsy nowadays usually refers to the people who choose the nomadic lifestyle and all it entails, such as halting sites, intermarrying etc. They have so much in common that they are virtually indistinguishable from each other. Even the titles they give each other - 'King of the Gypsies and 'King of the Travellers' - mean the same thing, i.e. bareknuckle boxing champion.


  • #624
    corner of hells
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    tomofson wrote: »
    There's not much cultural differences now is there?

    The widespread inter marriage ? Any update ?


  • #625
    Gravelly
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    corner of hells wrote: »

    Next we,ll draw comparison between hedgehogs and tomatoes
    tomofson wrote: »
    There's not much cultural differences now is there?

    Interestingly, a hedgehog would share over over 50% of it's DNA with a tomato.

    Yet supposedly travellers are genetically different from "settled people".........


  • #626
    corner of hells
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    Gravelly wrote: »
    Interestingly, a hedgehog would share over over 50% of it's DNA with a tomato.

    Yet supposedly travellers are genetically different from "settled people".........

    Good post , have you ever had a hedgehog sandwich ?


  • #627
    wexie
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    Gravelly wrote: »
    Yet supposedly travellers are genetically different from "settled people".........

    I'm not a biologist but from what I've understood the evidence for that is tenuous at best


  • #628
    Gravelly
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    Good post , have you ever had a hedgehog sandwich ?

    No, but I'd be up for trying one. I hate tomatoes.


  • #629
    Gravelly
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    wexie wrote: »
    I'm not a biologist but from what I've understood the evidence for that is tenuous at best

    Me neither, and I agree.


  • #630
    wexie
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    Gravelly wrote: »
    No, but I'd be up for trying one. I hate tomatoes.

    Well.....you wouldn't need one of those cocktail sticks to keep the sandwich together that's for sure :pac:


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  • #631
    Gravelly
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    wexie wrote: »
    Well.....you wouldn't need one of those cocktail sticks to keep the sandwich together that's for sure :pac:

    I recall reading somewhere that hedgehog was much in demand as a foodstuff in medieval times.


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