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Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭munster87


    Is there any other cases in the Wicklow, South Dublin area that may be linked to this guy?
    Incidents such as attempted abductions, rapes, sexual assaults etc

    I know theres unsolved cases in the 90's but is there any more recent ones?

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/gardai-set-up-incident-room-12537691.amp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,506 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Very sad this. Poor family too. I hope he rots in hell.

    Disgusting ****

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭MaccaTacca


    No context to that video of him in the pub whatsoever.

    Those women could easily be part of his family.

    Absolute nonsense from people saying that “you can tell hes a physco”.

    Anyone can look weird when framed in the wrong way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭ProudIRISHman


    I can safely say you could swap him with me in that video and I'd look just as rapey... It's only with hindsight we can say he looks creepy

    In the video of him in the club though he definitely looks creepy and socially awkward


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    The poster was referring to the other video, in the bar. I would make a guess he was being recorded by a mate as he was drunkenly making a fool of himself coming onto the women. That is what I got from the video anyway

    Yeah just seen that vid.
    Nothing unusual in it at-all, .. I see similar situations/scenarios weekend in weekend out,. because of my job, I even see lads follow women outside and 'harassing' them on the street, with similar response from the girls brushing them aside or laughing at them...
    That's the demon drink for ya!?
    Some men in fact lots of men seem to think they are Brad Pitt after a skin full..... actually after just a few!?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Does anyone think it's possible he thought she was a child? 5ft tall and slim build maybe it's possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    I am beginning to think it was a random abduction, based mainly on comments here. I did not know that Enniskerry was so quiet.

    To me it now looks like he saw a small petit lady (probably had seen her before) and thought she would be easy to overpower.
    Punched and bundled her into car. A witness saw him.
    He then proceeded to the Golf course (another witness saw her in the car in distress) where (I am guessing he stayed the night there or near there.) at the very least, he murdered her and dumped her body into the thick Gorse.
    Then on Sunday possibly unaware that the licence nuber had been made public, he went to Killiney petrol station where he was seen by people and they approached him. He sped away and made his way to the Dell car park where he was found and eventually shot.

    Is that the correct order of things?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭ProudIRISHman


    JayRoc wrote: »
    There's nothing in any of these videos that even hint at him being a monster who would go on to do what he did.

    People love to apply hindsight to these things and say "I always knew he was a wrong 'un", but on most cases no one had a clue.

    The guy was in my class at school, and I ran into him several times over the years when he was working on sites, and the truth is he just seemed like a normal bloke.

    Sometimes awful things don't make any sense.

    I am not saying that everyone socially awkward goes on to do these but knowing what he did you can see from the video he is socially awkward and is bad with women and that this may have fed into why he did what he did.

    Also was he really normal because in that video he does seem like a bit of lunatic. looking into nowhere laughing to himself when no one is even talking to him. The guy is clearly recording him because hes so weird

    The biggest thing is the clenched fist when the women reject his advances. It shows he was angry.

    Obviously if you just watched these videos and knew nothing you would just come away thinking he was an awkward loser not a killer but knowing what we know now the video does paint a clearer picture of him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Suckit wrote: »
    I am beginning to think it was a random abduction, based mainly on comments here. I did not know that Enniskerry was so quiet.

    To me it now looks like he saw a small petit lady (probably had seen her before) and thought she would be easy to overpower.
    Punched and bundled her into car. A witness saw him.
    He then proceeded to the Golf course (another witness saw her in the car in distress) where (I am guessing he stayed the night there or near there.) at the very least, he murdered her and dumped her body into the thick Gorse.
    Then on Sunday possibly unaware that the licence nuber had been made public, he went to Killiney petrol station where he was seen by people and they approached him. He sped away and made his way to the Dell car park where he was found and eventually shot.

    Is that te correct order of things?


    I'd have to imagine his phone was blowing up once his reg was made public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,355 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    What was going on in his head?? Was he fantasising about doing this for a while or was it a random attack. The sick brat to tell his wife he was going out socialising on the Saturday when he possibly had it in his head to do this all along. That poor girl came here for a better life. I feel for his wife and children too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭rockatansky


    In the video of him in the club though he definitely looks creepy and socially awkward

    As someone who considers themselves extremely socially awkward, should I present myself at my local Garda station immediatley or just go ahead and hang myself now for the safety of the female population of Ireland?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    Uncharted wrote: »
    Just watched the video of him bopping around creepily among a table of women.
    Wtf?

    He's almost a caricature of an oddball.
    Slimy looking fcuker....

    Or just full of drink?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭ProudIRISHman


    I'd have to imagine his phone was blowing up once his reg was made public.

    He had his phone off though until Sunday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,056 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    munster87 wrote: »
    Why’s that now?

    It's already been reported who gave her a lift.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,179 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    5star02707 wrote: »

    What I find disturbing is how normal he looks, you never really know what's going on in someone's head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    Her race might have been a lure to him, the idea of a Filipino woman far away from home, 'isolated'.. in Irish society, easy target etc..

    We had a Filipino house cleaner living in Bray and she had issues there, sadly. Petite, very sociable and friendly woman and she positively feared groups of teenagers from the area.

    There seemed to be frequent casual verbal abuse in her direction and sometimes lunging as she passed, etc, to intimidate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,056 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    As someone who considers themselves extremely socially awkward, should I present myself at my local Garda station immediatley or just go ahead and hang myself now for the safety of the female population of Ireland?

    He's actually the spit of me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭ProudIRISHman


    What was going on in his head?? Was he fantasising about doing this for a while or was it a random attack. The sick brat to tell his wife he was going out socialising on the Saturday when he possibly had it in his head to do this all along. That poor girl came here for a better life. I feel for his wife and children too.

    You don't just one day get this idea into your head. He had been fantasizing about it probably for a long time and then saw an opportunity and went for it. For all we know he had been driving around for months getting off on the idea of it but I guess on Saturday he finally started to follow through.

    Looking at the video of him in the bar he was desperate for women and had no hope so I would say this had been building in him for awhile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,506 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Amalgam wrote: »
    Her race might have been a lure to him, the idea of a Filipino woman far away from home, 'isolated'.. in Irish society, easy target etc..

    We had a Filipino house cleaner living in Bray and she had issues there, sadly. Petite, very sociable and friendly woman and she positively feared groups of teenagers from the area.

    There seemed to be frequent casual verbal abuse in her direction and sometimes lunging as she passed, etc, to intimidate.

    That's disgusting to hear.

    I don't want to speculate to the cause and if honest we never know I say anyway but generally these Sick individuals pick the easy targets

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    I think the response to reports of a woman being abducted will be different in future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I see the detectives from earlier on have been replaced with psychologists and body language experts. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    What I find disturbing is how normal he looks, you never really know what's going on in someone's head.

    Lots of people calling that weird. Looks perfectly normal, if awkward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭ProudIRISHman


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    What I find disturbing is how normal he looks, you never really know what's going on in someone's head.

    Honestly I get a bad vibe watching that video how he stands, his posture, his eyes. Somethings off with him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,035 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    wakka12 wrote: »
    And whats with the videos of the guy? They are so random and irrelevant and unremarkable

    Just lurid nonsense..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Poor girl. Such a senseless and pointless loss of life.

    As for him, apart from the abduction itself being botched, he seemed to pick a place that wouldn't have been on anyone's radar? A mine/ or gorse? He had to of preplanned that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    laugh wrote: »
    I think the response to reports of a woman being abducted will be different in future.

    I really don't understand why IF the person who witnessed this had a car!? Then why they didn't follow behind in a discreet/stealth manner.
    It obviously looked serious enough to phone the Gardaí... so why not follow?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Things we have in spades:

    Special weapons & tactics experts
    Crisis negotiation experts
    Body language experts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭chooey


    It was a man in the car not that it matters. I am not asking the driver to pull out in front of the car and intervene for **** sake. I am asking the driver to follow the car and give the guards updates on its location until they arrived. Its hardly askign someone to be heroic.

    I have to say I thought the same. I can't imagine seeing someone bundled into a boot of a car or seeing someone distressed in the back and being worried enough to call the guards but just let the car go. Surely you could try following at a distance. Worst case it all turns out to be a misunderstanding, best case it could help someone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,056 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    If the majority of boards.ie posters think that acting how he acts in that pub is normal then honestly I feel sorry for the boards.ie community.

    You're really getting into this


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