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Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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  • #1262
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,675 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Amalgam wrote: »
    Her race might have been a lure to him, the idea of a Filipino woman far away from home, 'isolated'.. in Irish society, easy target etc..

    We had a Filipino house cleaner living in Bray and she had issues there, sadly. Petite, very sociable and friendly woman and she positively feared groups of teenagers from the area.

    There seemed to be frequent casual verbal abuse in her direction and sometimes lunging as she passed, etc, to intimidate.

    That's disgusting to hear.

    I don't want to speculate to the cause and if honest we never know I say anyway but generally these Sick individuals pick the easy targets

    If my mother tongue is shaking the foundations of your state, it probably means you built your state on my land.

    EVENFLOW



  • #1263
    laugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    I think the response to reports of a woman being abducted will be different in future.


  • #1264
    ThePott
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I see the detectives from earlier on have been replaced with psychologists and body language experts. :rolleyes:


  • #1265
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    What I find disturbing is how normal he looks, you never really know what's going on in someone's head.

    Lots of people calling that weird. Looks perfectly normal, if awkward.


  • #1266
    ProudIRISHman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭ProudIRISHman


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    What I find disturbing is how normal he looks, you never really know what's going on in someone's head.

    Honestly I get a bad vibe watching that video how he stands, his posture, his eyes. Somethings off with him


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  • #1267
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,752 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    wakka12 wrote: »
    And whats with the videos of the guy? They are so random and irrelevant and unremarkable

    Just lurid nonsense..


  • #1268
    Flippyfloppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Poor girl. Such a senseless and pointless loss of life.

    As for him, apart from the abduction itself being botched, he seemed to pick a place that wouldn't have been on anyone's radar? A mine/ or gorse? He had to of preplanned that.


  • #1269
    Sam Quentin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    laugh wrote: »
    I think the response to reports of a woman being abducted will be different in future.

    I really don't understand why IF the person who witnessed this had a car!? Then why they didn't follow behind in a discreet/stealth manner.
    It obviously looked serious enough to phone the Gardaí... so why not follow?


  • #1270
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Things we have in spades:

    Special weapons & tactics experts
    Crisis negotiation experts
    Body language experts.


  • #1271
    chooey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭chooey


    ProudIRISHman wrote: »
    It was a man in the car not that it matters. I am not asking the driver to pull out in front of the car and intervene for **** sake. I am asking the driver to follow the car and give the guards updates on its location until they arrived. Its hardly askign someone to be heroic.

    I have to say I thought the same. I can't imagine seeing someone bundled into a boot of a car or seeing someone distressed in the back and being worried enough to call the guards but just let the car go. Surely you could try following at a distance. Worst case it all turns out to be a misunderstanding, best case it could help someone.


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  • #1272
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,063 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    ProudIRISHman wrote: »
    If the majority of boards.ie posters think that acting how he acts in that pub is normal then honestly I feel sorry for the boards.ie community.

    You're really getting into this


  • #1273
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    ProudIRISHman wrote: »
    If the majority of boards.ie posters think that acting how he acts in that pub is normal then honestly I feel sorry for the boards.ie community.

    You saw a 20 second clip on loop.
    How do you know how he acts in pubs?


  • #1274
    NickD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭NickD


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Things we have in spades:

    Special weapons & tactics experts
    Crisis negotiation experts
    Body language experts.

    Don't forget the Liam Neesons


  • #1275
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    ProudIRISHman wrote: »
    If the majority of boards.ie posters think that acting how he acts in that pub is normal then honestly I feel sorry for the boards.ie community.

    I wasn’t talking about the pub video. Can you try and follow the thread.


  • #1276
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    chooey wrote: »
    I have to say I thought the same. I can't imagine seeing someone bundled into a boot of a car or seeing someone distressed in the back and being worried enough to call the guards but just let the car go. Surely you could try following at a distance. Worst case it all turns out to be a misunderstanding, best case it could help someone.

    Shock most likely. Easy to say the witness should have followed but I'd imagine they were still processing what they saw long after he'd left the scene. That person has nothing to feel guilty for. Getting the car reg was enough.


  • #1277
    Ms2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    ProudIRISHman wrote: »
    Honestly I get a bad vibe watching that video how he stands, his posture, his eyes. Somethings off with him

    The video of him in the pub he comes off as a bit of an a***hole (to me), not unusual for some people with a few drinks on them but nothing more than that imo.


  • #1278
    soiseztomabel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭soiseztomabel


    MaccaTacca wrote: »
    No context to that video of him in the pub whatsoever.

    Those women could easily be part of his family.

    Absolute nonsense from people saying that “you can tell hes a physco”.

    Anyone can look weird when framed in the wrong way.

    Exactly... context is king, unless you're a pseudo crime profiler..... like at least half the people on this thread.


  • #1279
    ProudIRISHman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭ProudIRISHman


    sillysocks wrote: »
    Had no hope? He was married with children!

    Not to be bad but for all we know his wife was like him (not the murderer part the socially awkward part)

    Watching that video of him in the pub shows he was utterly disastrous with women and they weren't even lookers judging from their bodies...


  • #1280
    Sunflower 27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭Sunflower 27


    Suckit wrote: »
    You saw a 20 second clip on loop.
    How do you know how he acts in pubs?

    Exactly. A snippet of film and from that some people can see what he us potentially capable of. Ridiculous.

    Go into any pub and you will see men just as awkward.


  • #1281
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    I know it sounds morbid but I really hope the time of death was shortly after the time of abduction. I'd hate to think she went through an ordeal like Ana Kriegel. It's really hard to keep faith in humanity when you read about these incidents.


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  • #1282
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,063 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I am in pubs regularly sober and everyone looks like that


  • #1283
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    ProudIRISHman wrote: »
    Not to be bad but for all we know his wife was like him (not the murderer part the socially awkward part)

    Watching that video of him in the pub shows he was utterly disastrous with women and they weren't even lookers judging from their bodies...

    Christ "man" you're flogging this horse.
    Jockey club need to take a look at this


  • #1284
    wdmfapq4zs83hv
    Closed Accounts Posts: 563 ✭✭✭wdmfapq4zs83hv


    Where is the video of him in the pub?


  • #1285
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • #1286
    Sunflower 27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭Sunflower 27


    Suckit wrote: »
    You saw a 20 second clip on loop.
    How do you know how he acts in pubs?

    Exactly. A snippet of film and from that some people can "see" what he is potentially capable of. Ridiculous.

    Go into any pub and you will see men just as awkward.


  • #1287
    boombang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭boombang


    Not wanting to slam the Guards here. I know real life is not CSI.

    Was the reg known on Saturday? Do we know if he had his phone on him and switched on Saturday? Just wondering about the possibility of locating him through his phone. Presume he had it switched off.

    Doesn't seem like a well planned attack if he's driving with her visible in the car on the N11.


  • #1288
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,063 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    boombang wrote: »
    Not wanting to slam the Guards here. I know real life is not CSI.

    Was the reg known on Saturday? Do we know if he had his phone on him and switched on Saturday? Just wondering about the possibility of locating him through his phone. Presume he had it switched off.

    Doesn't seem like a well planned attack if he's driving with her visible in the car on the N11.

    If that one person hadn't seen him punch her and abduct her we wouldnt be here posting about it


  • #1289
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    ProudIRISHman wrote: »
    That clip says all we need to know about him and his attempts with women. The guy was socially awkward, desperate for women but couldn't chat them up to save his life.

    A lot of Irish men are just as awkward no one is denying that I am just saying that watching the video and knowing what we know now its hardly surprising.

    And you're saying this off course in your capacity as a criminal psychologist* right?

    Right?

    (*it's okay you can google it)


  • #1290
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Apparently the context of the pub video is that it was taken on Saturday night.

    That may be completely wrong though.


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  • #1291
    ProudIRISHman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭ProudIRISHman


    Sunflower 27 wrote: »
    Exactly. A snippet of film and from that some people can "see" what he is potentially capable of. Ridiculous.

    Go into any pub and you will see men just as awkward.

    I never said that. I said knowing what we know now its not surprsising to see socially awkward man who can't chat up women in the video.

    Are you denying that most men who engage in these sort of crimes aren't socially awkward and resentful towards woman because of their lack of success?

    Also I'll defend my country and say that while Irish man aren't as smooth as say French or Italians I would argue that most Irish men are not as bad as the creep in that video.


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