Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II off topic discussion

CramCycle · 08-01-2018 10:48PM

Eamonnator wrote: »

It cracks me up, when anybody turns their bike upside down to mend a puncture

Rule #49 applies.

http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#49

Do you lie it down for a puncture repair then? You could leave the chainring side pedal down and balance it on that and against a ditch/wall/pleb waiting for the bus :pac:

Eamonnator · 08-01-2018 11:03PM

CramCycle wrote: »

Do you lie it down for a puncture repair then? You could leave the chainring side pedal down and balance it on that and against a ditch/wall/pleb waiting for the bus :pac:

Front wheel puncture, I balance bike on the forks. Rear wheel puncture, I usually lay it on the grass verge. If I'm in company, somebody holds the bike upright.

Alek · 08-01-2018 11:16PM

It cracks me up, when anybody turns their bike upside down to mend a puncture

Why?

I always do this. So convenient.

Rear wheel puncture, I usually lay it on the grass verge.

I met one chap on Mick Byrne 200, near Sally Gap, on an improvised singlespeed. He laid his bike on the grass verge on one of the controls, bent the derailleur ever so slightly and ripped it off the next time he tried to shift to the large cog.

eeeee · 08-01-2018 11:26PM

I never put my bikes upside down to fix a puncture, I avoid inverting them at almost all costs.
The only time a bike of mine goes upside down was the track bike before I got a chain whip, changing the gear using the rotafix method.
Even then I didn't like it.
:pac:

Lusk_Doyle · 09-01-2018 12:01AM

Alek wrote: »

Why?

I always do this. So convenient.

I met one chap on Mick Byrne 200, near Sally Gap, on an improvised singlespeed. He laid his bike on the grass verge on one of the controls, bent the derailleur ever so slightly and ripped it off the next time he tried to shift to the large cog.

Well that was rather stupid of him to put it with the derailleur side down.

CramCycle · 09-01-2018 12:04AM

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Well that was rather stupid of him to put it with the derailleur side down.

Should have went single speed/fixed from the start, rather than all this messing about.

Eamonnator · 09-01-2018 12:06AM

Placing a bike upside down on the ground can damage the saddle and hoods.
When placing my bike on the grass verge, I do so carefully, very carefully.

Alek · 09-01-2018 11:19AM

Well that was rather stupid of him to put it with the derailleur side down.

Stupid is rather a strong word, we are all prone to mistakes, especially after 100km+ with a lot of climbing.

Placing a bike upside down on the ground can damage the saddle and hoods.

Again, I would not call "damage" a few superficial scratches I got on them over the years

Thud · 09-01-2018 11:20AM

Eamonnator wrote: »

Placing a bike upside down on the ground can damage the saddle and hoods.
When placing my bike on the grass verge, I do so carefully, very carefully.

but if there's a grass verge it's unlikely to damage hoods or saddle. If there is only footpath or road, I'd agree on not turning it upside down

cdaly_ · 09-01-2018 11:59AM

It used to be the thing in the days when you didn't have quick release or spare tubes. You turned the bike upside down, unmounted the tyre, repaired the tube and put it all back together again. All you needed was a pair of your mammie's best silver forks (who had tyre levers?), a pump, a puncture repair kit and a basin of water to find the leak.

Mind you, it was a bit of a bugger trying to carry a basin of water when you went out for a spin...

RobFowl · 09-01-2018 12:03PM

cdaly_ wrote: »

It used to be the thing in the days when you didn't have quick release or spare tubes. You turned the bike upside down, unmounted the tyre, repaired the tube and put it all back together again. All you needed was a pair of your mammie's best silver forks (who had tyre levers?), a pump, a puncture repair kit and a basin of water to find the leak.

Mind you, it was a bit of a bugger trying to carry a basin of water when you went out for a spin...

Ye posh git, In Coolock we used puddles to find the punctures

Chips Lovell · 09-01-2018 12:03PM

I always knew Sky were dodgy

tomasrojo · 09-01-2018 12:51PM

I did wonder what I'd do when I got a puncture with the bakfiets, as turning it upside down isn't really an option.

tomasrojo · 09-01-2018 12:55PM

I find it easiest to turn the tourer upside down though. I put tissues on the hoods to stop them getting too scraped up, and a plastic bag on the saddle.

The Brompton can usually be sorted out by doing the first step of the fold, so it's effectively on its "stand", and the dropouts facing upwards.

The bakfiets, again, just leave it on its stand and patch the puncture in situ. It's too hard to get the wheel off anyway.

ThisRegard · 09-01-2018 01:09PM

By not turning the bike upside down you're missing out on the best part, spinning the rear wheel really really fast, enjoying the hum of it and seeing how close you can get your fingers to the tyre before it takes a layer of skin off.

Eamonnator · 09-01-2018 01:33PM

[QUOTE=Alek;10577997 Again, I would not call "damage" a few superficial scratches I got on them over the years

[/QUOTE]

Well, I would,
We'll have to agree to differ.

Alek · 09-01-2018 01:39PM

ThisRegard wrote:

By not turning the bike upside down you're missing out on the best part, spinning the rear wheel really really fast, enjoying the hum of it and seeing how close you can get your fingers to the tyre before it takes a layer of skin off.

I've done better recently: wanted to find what caused the puncture this way, not even spinning the wheel fast at all... Found that shard of glass SUPER quickly.

One of those D'oh moments.

seamus · 09-01-2018 01:43PM

Alek wrote: »

Again, I would not call "damage" a few superficial scratches I got on them over the years

I have long given up trying to keep anything which I take out in public, in pristine condition. It's just not worth it. The amount of effort and heartache involved inevitably proves fruitless because stuff that gets taken out in public is going to get damaged. I keep them in great shape mechanically, it's just the non-functional stuff that I on't really care about.

Drives my wife crazy though because it means all sorts of scuffs and bumps and on the cars and I just shrug and say, "Yeah, whatever, it's just a piece of plastic".

Alek · 09-01-2018 01:58PM

seamus wrote:

I have long given up trying to keep anything which I take out in public, in pristine condition. It's just not worth it. The amount of effort and heartache involved inevitably proves fruitless because stuff that gets taken out in public is going to get damaged. I keep them in great shape mechanically, it's just the non-functional stuff that I on't really care about.

Im the same, especially since kids have arrived... :->

nomdeboardie · 09-01-2018 08:17PM

Probably doesn't warrent a thread, not sure if anything new, but in case its of interest, Eco Eye on RTE1 is discussing cycling & walking etc infrastructure/issues

Mr. Grieves · 09-01-2018 11:23PM

nomdeboardie wrote: »

Probably doesn't warrent a thread, not sure if anything new, but in case its of interest, Eco Eye on RTE1 is discussing cycling & walking etc infrastructure/issues

Very interesting discussion about urban planning with Lorainne D'Arcy from DIT. Lots of concepts like desire lines which people here would be familiar with but I've never seen discussed in mainstream media (except The Guardian)! Refreshing lack of helmet emphasis too even if hi-vis was ubiquitous.

tomasrojo · 09-01-2018 11:38PM

I missed it, but the word on Twitter (my bit of it anyway) seems very positive.

Helmet-related backlash seems likely maybe.

Mr. Grieves · 09-01-2018 11:57PM

tomasrojo wrote: »

I missed it, but the word on Twitter (my bit of it anyway) seems very positive.

Helmet-related backlash seems likely maybe.

The section where the presenter cycled down the quays captured a ton of bad behaviour from drivers and illustrated well what it's generally like. Her maneuver between two buses is not one I'd have made, though.

tomasrojo · 10-01-2018 12:09AM

Must check it out.

magicbastarder · 10-01-2018 12:45AM

ThisRegard wrote: »

By not turning the bike upside down you're missing out on the best part, spinning the rear wheel really really fast, enjoying the hum of it and seeing how close you can get your fingers to the tyre before it takes a layer of skin off.

I lost the tip off my finger when I was a toddler in a similar scenario.

tomasrojo · 10-01-2018 12:57AM

That must have been very traumatic. Do you have any memory of it, or was it too early in life?

tomasrojo · 10-01-2018 11:07AM

https://twitter.com/BicycleAdagio/status/950992347080286212

If true, Australia is even worse than I thought. Talk about buying into hostile framing.

ThisRegard · 10-01-2018 11:23AM

magicbastarder wrote: »

I lost the tip off my finger when I was a toddler in a similar scenario.

From the tyre or it popping into the spokes?

nomdeboardie · 10-01-2018 12:24PM

tomasrojo wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BicycleAdagio/status/950992347080286212

If true, Australia is even worse than I thought. Talk about buying into hostile framing.

:eek: I surrender :eek:

magicbastarder · 10-01-2018 01:15PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

From the tyre or it popping into the spokes?

I stuck my finger into the spokes. Missing a couple of mm off my right index finger now, so it's not that obvious. Too young at the time to remember it now.

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