Munster V Leinster Build up Thread

23-12-2017 05:16PM #1

Well lads, this should be a turnip for the boks.

Expect a fresh Munster to have too much at home for a primarily academy team venturing south. It's going to be wet too and with the prospect of muck the savages will undoubtedly be feeling confident.

Provided Munster can keep their coaching ticket in place until kick off I'd expect a dominant first half from the local(s) and with Leinsters bench comprising mostly of players we'd be willing to let move to Ulster, it's hard to see where the impact will come from.

Anyway, have at it lads and be nice, It's Christmas!

shootermacg · 23-12-2017 07:12PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well lads, this should be a turnip for the boks.

Expect a fresh Munster to have too much at home for a primarily academy team venturing south. It's going to be wet too and with the prospect of muck the savages will undoubtedly be feeling confident.

Provided Munster can keep their coaching ticket in place until kick off I'd expect a dominant first half from the local(s) and with Leinsters bench comprising mostly of players we'd be willing to let move to Ulster, it's hard to see where the impact will come from.

Anyway, have at it lads and be nice, It's Christmas!

Our very own Franno by the looks of things.

Burkie1203 · 23-12-2017 07:14PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well lads, this should be a turnip for the boks.

Expect a fresh Munster to have too much at home for a primarily academy team venturing south. It's going to be wet too and with the prospect of muck the savages will undoubtedly be feeling confident.

Provided Munster can keep their coaching ticket in place until kick off I'd expect a dominant first half from the local(s) and with Leinsters bench comprising mostly of players we'd be willing to let move to Ulster, it's hard to see where the impact will come from.

Anyway, have at it lads and be nice, It's Christmas!

Best preview thread. Ever.

Serbian · 23-12-2017 07:27PM

It’s frustrating that this fixture has become a bit of a farce for the second season in a row. This used to be a game that was fiercely contested between two good teams, but Leinster have decided to send mostly second and third+ choice players this time around again.

You can’t really blame them, the divisions in the Pro14 are largely already decided, realistically there’s very little for either team to play for at this point.

I’d expect Leinster will be competitive but comfortable win is on the cards for Munster again here.

ScrubsfanChris · 23-12-2017 07:50PM

Serbian wrote: »

It’s frustrating that this fixture has become a bit of a farce for the second season in a row. This used to be a game that was fiercely contested between two good teams, but Leinster have decided to send mostly second and third+ choice players this time around again.

You can’t really blame them, the divisions in the Pro14 are largely already decided, realistically there’s very little for either team to play for at this point.

Fully expect Munster to send a weakened team to Belfast the week after and target the Connacht game again.
This looks like the norm for the foreseeable future

Akrasia · 23-12-2017 08:10PM

As long as we're competitive in Europe, the Christmas interpros will be all about player management

Former Former · 23-12-2017 08:15PM

There's another interpro six days after.

If you want Leinster to go full strength here, it means sending the seconds out at home against Ulster.

sydthebeat · 23-12-2017 08:23PM

Serbian wrote: »

It’s frustrating that this fixture has become a bit of a farce for the second season in a row. This used to be a game that was fiercely contested between two good teams, but Leinster have decided to send mostly second and third+ choice players this time around again.

You can’t really blame them, the divisions in the Pro14 are largely already decided, realistically there’s very little for either team to play for at this point.

I’d expect Leinster will be competitive but comfortable win is on the cards for Munster again here.

Second season?? It's about the best fifth or sixth season that it's a glorified seconds game.

Actually this year is much better than previous years, selection wise.

pickarooney · 23-12-2017 08:39PM

Surely that's as strong a Leinster side as could reasonably be expected?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 23-12-2017 08:49PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

Second season?? It's about the best fifth or sixth season that it's a glorified seconds game.

Actually this year is much better than previous years, selection wise.

Leinster Munster used to be kept apart at Chirstmas. There would be a full tilt match in the Aviva before the first European game and a full tilt game before the European quarter final.

shootermacg · 23-12-2017 08:53PM

Serbian wrote: »

It’s frustrating that this fixture has become a bit of a farce for the second season in a row. This used to be a game that was fiercely contested between two good teams, but Leinster have decided to send mostly second and third+ choice players this time around again.

You can’t really blame them, the divisions in the Pro14 are largely already decided, realistically there’s very little for either team to play for at this point.

I’d expect Leinster will be competitive but comfortable win is on the cards for Munster again here.

I totally agree, it's disrespectful to the fans who pay a lot of money to support the home games. I understand the why of it, but it still doesn't make it right.

This is the second year Leo has sent down a second string, and this second string is actually worse than last year. It will stand to Leinster's seconds to get taste of a derby, but he's killing what was once a highlight of the season.

swiwi_ · 23-12-2017 09:03PM

That Leinster side looks decent enough to me. Based on some of the posts I was expecting a bunch of complete no-names.

“Turnip for the boks” I chuckled...

Burkie1203 · 23-12-2017 09:05PM

shootermacg wrote: »

I totally agree, it's disrespectful to the fans who pay a lot of money to support the home games. I understand the why of it, but it still doesn't make it right.

This is the second year Leo has sent down a second string, and this second string is actually worse than last year. It will stand to Leinster's seconds to get taste of a derby, but he's killing what was once a highlight of the season.

Leo is not responsible for this. Blaming him is wrong. He has to take games in blocks and plan accordingly. He can only plan with the fixtures how they fall and cannot put the first xv out every week

irishbucsfan · 23-12-2017 09:09PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Leo is not responsible for this. Blaming him is wrong. He has to take games in blocks and plan accordingly. He can only plan with the fixtures how they fall and cannot put the first xv out every week

Correct. The IRFU have decided that sticking all these interpros together suits them, because it removes some of the most intense fixtures from the league calendar. It's all about risk management.

But hopefully Martin Anayi will put a stop to it and they'll all cop on and give the league a bit more respect.

MugMugs · 23-12-2017 09:10PM

shootermacg wrote: »

I totally agree, it's disrespectful to the fans who pay a lot of money to support the home games. I understand the why of it, but it still doesn't make it right.

This is the second year Leo has sent down a second string, and this second string is actually worse than last year. It will stand to Leinster's seconds to get taste of a derby, but he's killing what was once a highlight of the season.

Christ I truly hope our disrespect throttle you lot

To think that that team is unable to turn over that Munster side is incredibly short sighted.

irishbucsfan · 23-12-2017 09:12PM

MugMugs wrote: »

Christ I truly hope our disrespect throttle you lot

To think that that team is unable to turn over that Munster side is incredibly short sighted.

There's a difference between 'this team has absolutely no hope of ever winning a game' and 'this is a weakened team in what used to be one of the best fixtures in European league rugby'

MugMugs · 23-12-2017 09:41PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

There's a difference between 'this team has absolutely no hope of ever winning a game' and 'this is a weakened team in what used to be one of the best fixtures in European league rugby'

To state its disrespectful is incredibly disrespectful to the players making the run to Limerick. 13 of whom are Irish internationals. You sound like Tony Ward

Fortune favours the brave etc etc etc.

shootermacg · 23-12-2017 09:43PM

MugMugs wrote: »

To state its disrespectful is incredibly disrespectful to the players making the run to Limerick. 13 of whom are Irish internationals. You sound like Tony Ward

Fortune favours the brave etc etc etc.

No, you can blame their manager for the fact that most of them don't get to play in first team. After all he picks the team.

irishbucsfan · 23-12-2017 09:48PM

MugMugs wrote: »

To state its disrespectful is incredibly disrespectful to the players making the run to Limerick. 13 of whom are Irish internationals. You sound like Tony Ward

Fortune favours the brave etc etc etc.

I completely disagree that it's disrespectful to call 2nd choice players what they are, which is 2nd choice. Noone is saying they're rubbish, they're just stating the facts.

Former Former · 23-12-2017 09:49PM

We all knew this was going to happen.

We all know why it has to happen.

Could we not just get on with it?

irishbucsfan · 23-12-2017 09:51PM

Former Former wrote: »

We all knew this was going to happen.

We all know why it has to happen.

Could we not just get on with it?

So... let's all just shut up and keep the discussion away from discussion boards?

MugMugs · 23-12-2017 09:52PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

So... let's all just shut up and keep the discussion away from discussion boards?

Or just enjoy the game you'll be given..... That works too......

Former Former · 23-12-2017 09:53PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

So... let's all just shut up and keep the discussion away from discussion boards?

Now you're on the trolley!

shootermacg · 23-12-2017 09:53PM

Former Former wrote: »

We all knew this was going to happen.

We all know why it has to happen.

Could we not just get on with it?

Quickly! Someone rename the thread!!!

irishbucsfan · 23-12-2017 09:54PM

MugMugs wrote: »

Or just enjoy the game you'll be given..... That works too......

I will enjoy the game. I love watching Ryan and Larmour play.

And I'll also point out that we've lost what used to be a major event from the Irish rugby calendar, due to the fixture being intentionally sidelined.

I am capable of doing both. You don't have to if you don't want to.

Former Former · 23-12-2017 09:54PM

It's just we might as well be complaining that it's cold and wet in December. It's just the way of it.

irishbucsfan · 23-12-2017 09:56PM

Former Former wrote: »

It's just we might as well be complaining that it's cold and wet in December. It's just the way of it.

Maybe if it had gone from being warm and balmy a few years ago to being cold and wet in December due to a decision by Met Eireann, and if that was the case I'd probably complain about it as well.

shootermacg · 23-12-2017 09:57PM

Former Former wrote: »

It's just we might as well be complaining that it's cold and wet in December. It's just the way of it.

How long have you been visiting the match threads now FF? Lets just put it this way... The first rule of MatchThreadClub is, you pile on the bile and then they pile on the bile and soon you have a nice cesspit of bile built up. Take the Frannoesque opener, it's a concentration of the first rule of MatchThreadClub.

Former Former · 23-12-2017 10:03PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Maybe if it had gone from being warm and balmy a few years ago to being cold and wet in December due to a decision by Met Eireann, and if that was the case I'd probably complain about it as well.

I guess the question is why should Munster v Leinster be a sacred cow and the other interpros be treated as lesser fixtures?

Because that's basically what this whole thing boils down to.

MugMugs · 23-12-2017 10:03PM

Former Former wrote: »

It's just we might as well be complaining that it's cold and wet in December. It's just the way of it.

Quite mild actually :pac:

irishbucsfan · 23-12-2017 10:06PM

Former Former wrote: »

I guess the question is why should Munster v Leinster be a sacred cow and the other interpros be treated as lesser fixtures?

Because that's basically what this whole thing boils down to.

You're right, it shouldn't be in an ideal world, and all the interpros should be played at a time when full sides can be put out (or at least 4 of them on the weekends leading into Europe). But at the very least we could get back to where we were.

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