Dairy chit chat II

Gawddawggonnit · 01-12-2017 01:28PM

blackdog1 wrote: »

Well that's this year's grazing finished. Cows were out night b and day until 24th and once a day until now. Been a good season in Cork, was lucky to cut silage early in the good weather. Cows averaging 23 litres @ 4.31 fat 3.65 protein. On 10kg of whole crop, 3kg 21% nut and 5 kg crimp wheat and grass silage.

Not bad for spring calvers in fairness.

blackdog1 · 01-12-2017 02:06PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote:

Not bad for spring calvers in fairness.

Ha I wish 40% autumn.

straight · 01-12-2017 02:21PM

Is there any of ye forward buying fertilizer for next year with the forecasted increase and all.

mahoney_j · 01-12-2017 04:31PM

straight wrote: »

Is there any of ye forward buying fertilizer for next year with the forecasted increase and all.

Trying to atm but most non commital on price ,have some 18s bought ,and looking to buy some yarra early start

Mooooo · 01-12-2017 04:48PM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

2.9lu/ha is as high as any livestock farm can go.
Curtains in Moorepark are stocked at that and manage fine as far as I know
We're at 2.75 here and managing fine but we buy in a bit of maize just cause I'm still a bit nervous of being short silage . Outfarm needs reseeding, if I can get it reseeded I'll drop the maize I think.
Last time we ran out of fodder we were mostly index one for p and k and low in lime aswell as a lot of old pasture.

2.6 is where I'm thinking of, have 8 ha of wet ground that in a bad year can be a write off so with that out it would 2.9. That's with calves on outfarm and heifers at home. Depends on herd test what way I'll go now. Of cows were around in spring and were clear would nearly prefer to buy in and speed the transition to spring only, others saying not to buy in but will take 2 to.3 years to get numbers up and I want to hold on to part time worker as well. Have to spend a bit of time on putting out the options

Freejin · 01-12-2017 10:56PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Going back over old ground again Lads, but what are yer stocking rates over the whole farm including youngstock etc? Is there a figure ye wouldn't go past?

Stupid question time....when calculating stocking rates, what are in-calf heifers and calves calculated at...is it 0.7 for incalf heifers and 0.3 for calves?

freedominacup · 01-12-2017 11:10PM

Freejin wrote: »

Stupid question time....when calculating stocking rates, what are in-calf heifers and calves calculated at...is it 0.7 for incalf heifers and 0.3 for calves?

Over the year an in-calf heifer and the calf following her equal one livestock unit. On paper and in practice.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 02-12-2017 02:35PM

I was onto Teagasc about the DG payments and they must be collected by the farmer in the office and a form signed to say it was received by the farmer.

Mooooo · 02-12-2017 07:15PM

First 30 dried off, will dry off another batch next weekend and will dry off the last of them 2nd week of Jan most likely as suits tge accommadation. Will be down to 3 or 4 rows for Xmas then.

jaymla627 · 02-12-2017 09:06PM

straight wrote: »

Is there any of ye forward buying fertilizer for next year with the forecasted increase and all.

Bought a 28 ton load last week 350 a ton 18:6:12 and 320 24:2.5:5 cash on delivery

whelan2 · 03-12-2017 12:48PM

Little rubber ring that goes on connection on front of milk tank was missing yesterday evening when I went to milk. Took the one off the wash side. Found it this morning in the pups kennel.

Floki · 03-12-2017 01:01PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Little rubber ring that goes on connection on front of milk tank was missing yesterday evening when I went to milk. Took the one off the wash side. Found it this morning in the pups kennel.

Pups go through a stage like that.
Our beagle was the very same taking the rubber ring off the tank. You'd be working on a job and any small tools he'd take if you had your back turned.
Even work lads with vans if the door was open he'd be in and off with something.

He's grown out of it now. But it was some nuisance.

Edit: what was worse was he used to bury his staches in the garden flower beds.
So you'd only find them months later when someone was digging the bed.

George Sunsnow · 03-12-2017 03:00PM

Took up an electric fence there an hour ago letting the milking cows into the last section of grass in the field they’re in
I was able to walk the length of it in my Sunday best shoes without one bit of dirt
I was surprised how dry it is

Wenesday at a stretch will probably be their last day out this year given the forecast
The target was to be tomorrow but if the weather played ball It could have stretched to the 2nd week in December

jaymla627 · 03-12-2017 03:23PM

Floki wrote: »

Pups go through a stage like that.
Our beagle was the very same taking the rubber ring off the tank. You'd be working on a job and any small tools he'd take if you had your back turned.
Even work lads with vans if the door was open he'd be in and off with something.

He's grown out of it now. But it was some nuisance.

Edit: what was worse was he used to bury his staches in the garden flower beds.
So you'd only find them months later when someone was digging the bed.

Golden retriever here went with the stainless steel cap haven't a notion how she managed to drag it 100 m up the road from the parlour, she was on thin ice that day can't wash bulk tank without it

Snowfire · 04-12-2017 11:26AM

Anyone know where I could buy a scrubbing brush like this one.?
It was branded de-laval. I could never find another quality one like it in my local co-ops

Keepgrowing · 04-12-2017 11:32AM

Snowfire wrote: »

Anyone know where I could buy a scrubbing brush like this one.?
It was branded de-laval. I could never find another quality one like it in my local co-ops

De Laval stores stock them, well ours does anyway

George Sunsnow · 04-12-2017 11:44AM

What are the Glanbia C5 shares?
They’re being issued subject to a vote on the 14th as fully paid up bonus shares to those who participated in the 2015 Glanbia revolving share plan

Are these the equivalent of your existing co op shares? Ergo Worth a lot in terms of any future plc spin out shares?

jaymla627 · 04-12-2017 02:35PM

George Sunsnow wrote: »

What are the Glanbia C5 shares?
They’re being issued subject to a vote on the 14th as fully paid up bonus shares to those who participated in the 2015 Glanbia revolving share plan

Are these the equivalent of your existing co op shares? Ergo Worth a lot in terms of any future plc spin out shares?

Where they issued in 15 where you could by them, and they would be paid out in 18 with a top-up on original purchase price depending on company preformance

George Sunsnow · 04-12-2017 03:43PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Where they issued in 15 where you could by them, and they would be paid out in 18 with a top-up on original purchase price depending on company preformance

Something like that
Except they’re being paid out in C5 shares
I’m wondering is this a back door to buying spinable shares?

straight · 04-12-2017 07:45PM

I want to disenfect my calfhouse before the spring. Could any of ye recommend a good disinfectant to kill cryptospiridium and oocycsts?

whelan2 · 04-12-2017 07:56PM

straight wrote: »

I want to disenfect my calfhouse before the spring. Could any of ye recommend a good disinfectant to kill cryptospiridium and oocycsts?

I use interkokask. There are other products. Do you think is it ok to disinfect the sheds now or should you wait until nearer to when there will be animals in the shed?

straight · 04-12-2017 08:00PM

I suppose it would be no harm to disinfect twice. Was going to do it now after powerwashing and spread disinfectant lime on it before calves go in.

Midfield9 · 04-12-2017 08:28PM

straight wrote: »

I suppose it would be no harm to disinfect twice. Was going to do it now after powerwashing and spread disinfectant lime on it before calves go in.

Use something cheap like sorgene now and lash it out and then kenocox before calving

blackdog1 · 04-12-2017 08:39PM

straight wrote: »

I suppose it would be no harm to disinfect twice. Was going to do it now after powerwashing and spread disinfectant lime on it before calves go in.

Wouldn't bother with the lime as it could affect the disinfectant. Id disinfect, powerwash , let it dry then disinfect again. also make sure you do the calving pen as it will be the source of infection.

charolais0153 · 04-12-2017 08:46PM

blackdog1 wrote: »

Wouldn't bother with the lime as it could affect the disinfectant. Id disinfect, powerwash , let it dry then disinfect again. also make sure you do the calving pen as it will be the source of infection.

So you disinfect when its dirty?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 04-12-2017 09:40PM

A bit on the new Nitrates derogation

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/stricter-rules-for-farmers-in-next-nitrates-action-programme-329114

At least 50% of slurry must be out by 15th June and all slurry after that must be by low emission equipment and you must have sufficient storage for all animals on the farm to qualify.

That's my slurry tank out of action so:rolleyes:

Panch18 · 04-12-2017 10:24PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

A bit on the new Nitrates derogation

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/stricter-rules-for-farmers-in-next-nitrates-action-programme-329114

At least 50% of slurry must be out by 15th June and all slurry after that must be by low emission equipment and you must have sufficient storage for all animals on the farm to qualify.

That's my slurry tank out of action so:rolleyes:

The 50% I'm not that worried about - as I've no idea how you would police that.

But the low emission equipment???? Is that basically saying that they have got rid of splash plate via the back door??

Reggie. · 04-12-2017 10:53PM

Panch18 wrote: »

The 50% I'm not that worried about - as I've no idea how you would police that.

But the low emission equipment???? Is that basically saying that they have got rid of splash plate via the back door??

Seems that way. So you can use the plate for the first half of the year?

Panch18 · 04-12-2017 10:56PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Seems that way. So you can use the plate for the first half of the year?

It bloody well sounds like it

RedPeppers · 04-12-2017 11:18PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

A bit on the new Nitrates derogation

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/stricter-rules-for-farmers-in-next-nitrates-action-programme-329114

At least 50% of slurry must be out by 15th June and all slurry after that must be by low emission equipment and you must have sufficient storage for all animals on the farm to qualify.

That's my slurry tank out of action so:rolleyes:

Didn't we not have to have sufficient storage already? They have measured our tanks here enough times. As for the low emission equipment trailing shoe simply won't work around here in a wet backend too heavy on the land.

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