Dairy chit chat II

Buford T. Justice XIX

Panch18 wrote: »

The 50% I'm not that worried about - as I've no idea how you would police that.

But the low emission equipment???? Is that basically saying that they have got rid of splash plate via the back door??

Yeah, sneaky way of doing it.

Mooooo

Contractor I use with umbilical has a trailing shoe he said it adds just over a tonne in weight. Must of ours will be out in spring anyway and on silage ground so should be fine. The determination of dirty water etc may be an issue roadways near yards etc?

Floki

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

A bit on the new Nitrates derogation

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/stricter-rules-for-farmers-in-next-nitrates-action-programme-329114

At least 50% of slurry must be out by 15th June and all slurry after that must be by low emission equipment and you must have sufficient storage for all animals on the farm to qualify.

That's my slurry tank out of action so:rolleyes:

Farmers don't make rules.


BARBEQUE SEASON.

mengele

can trailing shoes be added to tanks anyway easily? if it was a newish tank although didnt have the brackets?

Floki

mengele wrote: »

can trailing shoes be added to tanks anyway easily? if it was a newish tank although didnt have the brackets?

It depends on the centre of gravity of the the tank and where the axle is and if it's able for the extra weight.

mengele

and another question. What is a rough date when winter feeding is half over? Lets say you have 400 bales what date is around halfway to have half of them used?

Floki

mengele wrote: »

and another question. What is a rough date when winter feeding is half over? Lets say you have 400 bales what date is around halfway to have half of them used?

You should know how many bales you use every day.
Then roughly you'll know an average date for turnout every year.
If your 400 bales divided by your amount used every day reaches the turnout date in days ahead your fine if not multiply the days left by your daily usage to find the shortfall in bales.

K.G.

mengele wrote: »

and another question. What is a rough date when winter feeding is half over? Lets say you have 400 bales what date is around halfway to have half of them used?

I go by new years day is half way for a spring calving herd.it mightned be half way in terms of days but in calf ciws eat less coming near calving .

alps

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

A bit on the new Nitrates derogation

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/stricter-rules-for-farmers-in-next-nitrates-action-programme-329114

At least 50% of slurry must be out by 15th June and all slurry after that must be by low emission equipment and you must have sufficient storage for all animals on the farm to qualify.

That's my slurry tank out of action so:rolleyes:

Nasty...really nasty...

Wonder how parlour washing will be designated....really felt that spreading them during summer with the splash plate had an effect like a folliar fertiliser..lots of liquid collected during the summer months that we used to tip away with quiet handy with our own tank...balls...

We export slurry, hopefully we can continue to spread that with the splash plate as that farm is of course not in derogation...

K.G.

A tip for ye ,buy your minerals fast they are going to go mad

George Sunsnow

In the post office just now
€2.10 to send off 12 bvd samples in one envelope (yes I’ve heifers calving,none now until mid January thankfully)

So €2.10 not €1.65
What happens if I put €1.65 on it I asked
It will be binned she said :eek:

Timmaay

Outbreak of mastitis here (bloody always comes after housing, despite liming tad etc), so opened the gate today and let them all back to grass. Unbelievably good ground conditions. Gonna strip graze away while I can.

Mooooo

Timmaay wrote: »

Outbreak of mastitis here (bloody always comes after housing, despite liming tad etc), so opened the gate today and let them all back to grass. Unbelievably good ground conditions. Gonna strip graze away while I can.

Do you hold them after milking or do you let them straight back to the cubicles?

George Sunsnow

Timmaay wrote: »

Outbreak of mastitis here (bloody always comes after housing, despite liming tad etc), so opened the gate today and let them all back to grass. Unbelievably good ground conditions. Gonna strip graze away while I can.

Yup,get it into them,snow when it comes will shrivel that grass and it will be worth nothing wont it
Ground conditions are very dry in east Wicklow
Be prepared for a wet day and night tomorrow though and bitter cold winds Friday to Sunday
More rain Sunday
Both wet days in quick succession will make that ground greasy

Reggie.

George Sunsnow wrote: »

Yup,get it into them,snow when it comes will shrivel that grass and it will be worth nothing wont it
Ground conditions are very dry in east Wicklow
Be prepared for a wet day and night tomorrow though and bitter cold winds Friday to Sunday
More rain Sunday
Both wet days in quick succession will make that ground greasy

Snow due at end of week I think

George Sunsnow

Reggie. wrote: »

Snow due at end of week I think

Friday mainly but probably not in east Wicklow
Just cold and windy here
Mostly the north,the west and southwest and just for a day and a half will see showers,then slightly warmer again

Injuryprone

Does anyone know if that moscha attachment for the back of the tank is approved as a low emission spreader?

Reggie.

Injuryprone wrote: »

Does anyone know if that moscha attachment for the back of the tank is approved as a low emission spreader?

That's the waving spout fella

K.G.

Reroofing milking parlour at the moment and thinking of putting in a roof light every third sheet over the pit.they are metre cover sheets and the light would be 10ft along approx.it would work at four roof lightsin the parlour.just wondering whats enough

GrasstoMilk

K.G. wrote: »

Reroofing milking parlour at the moment and thinking of putting in a roof light every third sheet over the pit.they are metre cover sheets and the light would be 10ft along approx.it would work at four roof lightsin the parlour.just wondering whats enough

What about putting them in the whole length of the pit?

whelan2

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

What about putting them in the whole length of the pit?

Would frost be an issue?

boggerman1

whelan2 wrote: »

Would frost be an issue?

Put them over the pit.in my parlor every 2nd sheet is done in mine.best thing great light and once a yr I hope up on roof with the power washer to clean them.

Floki

K.G. wrote: »

Reroofing milking parlour at the moment and thinking of putting in a roof light every third sheet over the pit.they are metre cover sheets and the light would be 10ft along approx.it would work at four roof lightsin the parlour.just wondering whats enough

If you have side sheets on the shed you could put that whole side in those plastic clear sheets.
I left a bit of side sheeting on my parlour not bringing the wall up to the roof for that very reason. It's facing SW and the clear sheets only go about 2 ft in length but with the full section of shed done it lets in a lot of sunlight.
There's a difference in clear sheets some are narrow plastic ones and then wider ones which go yellow and brittle.
Not sure of the names of each I think one is Pvc and the other is perpex/polycarbonate?
I think it's the pvc ones that don't fade. I think they only go to 0.6m (2ft) wide though?

Edit : just measured the side sheets. There 1.10m total width.

whelan2

Are the other sheets insulated sheets?

Floki

whelan2 wrote: »

Are the other sheets insulated sheets?

I don't think there's such a thing as insulated clear sheets?
I actually think the ones that go yellow and brittle with the Sun are fiberglass.

From Google it looks like there's Pvc, polycarbonate and fiberglass sheeting.
But it's the fiberglass ones that turn to paper with the Sun.

whelan2

Floki wrote: »

I don't think there's such a thing as insulated clear sheets?
I actually think the ones that go yellow and brittle with the Sun are fiberglass.

From Google it looks like there's Pvc, polycarbonate and fiberglass sheeting.
But it's the fiberglass ones that turn to paper with the Sun.

No I meant the sheets that are not sky lights

K.G.

boggerman1 wrote: »

Put them over the pit.in my parlor every 2nd sheet is done in mine.best thing great light and once a yr I hope up on roof with the power washer to clean them.

What size are thse lights

Floki

whelan2 wrote: »

No I meant the sheets that are not sky lights

Not insulated no.

Usually don't get bad frosts here and wouldn't be milking at that time of year anyway.

orm0nd

merchant tells me soya hulls are expected to increase in price due to demand,

any issues getting a few tonne blown into a bin with an 8 inch curved outlet ?

cute geoge

orm0nd wrote: »

merchant tells me soya hulls are expected to increase in price due to demand,

any issues getting a few tonne blown into a bin with an 8 inch curved outlet ?

I think they have increased in price not so long ago ,bought last year for about €180 collected .What are they working out nowadays??