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Clonskeagh Mosque - Homeless

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Odhinn wrote: »
    That's nice. Have you anymore groundless stuff to share with us?

    Care to explain the oxford and merriam webster dating of the word "islamophobia"?

    You do know you cant be phobic of an idealogy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    seachto7 wrote: »
    I don't agree with MysticMonk, but the SPLC referred to Majid Nawaz as an extremist lately if I'm not mistaken. I think he took them to court. I haven't followed it in a while, but if they're against him, then they're up to no good in my eyes.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/10/maajid-nawaz-splc-anti-muslim-extremist/505685/

    Theres a list of people where normally they would be classed as on the left but these nutters label them extremists
    By the way SPLC is funded by non other than George Soros so says it all really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    this is more ranting.



    nope. none of those are on the banned organisations list to my knowledge. so they are not terrorist organisations at all.

    Antifa are on a terrorist list in America


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Yet no reply to the Prime Time link i posted earlier ??

    Are you still waiting? No way:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    biko wrote: »
    It is sad state of affairs when it is threadworthy that Muslims help their fellow men.

    Nope not all Muslims but a mosque with links to the Muslim Brotherhood who have a clothes bank outside collected for Hamas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Why do ALL ex Muslims speak out against Islam?
    Why do ALL ex Muslims tell the exact same things that are going to happen? That Islam is going to take over the west? Where do you think they get this from? Do you think theres a club that ex Muslims go to get there stories straight to lie about Islam?
    OR
    OR
    OR
    Does it have something that Muslims get thought is Mosques?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,279 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Well all the sites you seem to like hate " white people "

    in what way do they "hate white people"
    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Are you really getting statistics from the Southern Poverty Law Centre? No wonder you are so deluded

    why, what's wrong with them? they debunk the nonsense being spouted?
    Help!!!! wrote: »
    You do know you cant be phobic of an idealogy?

    yes you can. very much so.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Well all the sites you seem to like hate " white people "

    Wikipedia and the oxford english dictionary are hating on whitey eh?
    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Antifa are on a terrorist list in America
    Not as far as I can see
    https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm
    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Why do ALL ex Muslims speak out against Islam?
    ...........

    Ok - would you mind proving that this is the case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    in what way do they "hate white people"



    why, what's wrong with them? they debunk the nonsense being spouted?



    yes you can. very much so.

    They encourage abortions in the west so they encourage multi culturalism

    Funded by George Soros, if you support a man who is willing to disrupt a countries economy so he can make money, then admit what happens afterwards is not his problem then you are part of whats wrong in the world

    No you can not unless it seems your a nut of the left


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    They encourage abortions in the west so they encourage multi culturalism

    What the jaysus....? Explain please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Wikipedia and the oxford english dictionary are hating on whitey eh?

    Not as far as I can see
    https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm



    Ok - would you mind proving that this is the case?

    Wikipedia where anyone can post?

    New Jersey homeland security put Antifa on terrorist list

    Look on youtube plenty to choose from, actual people, ex Muslims
    EG: ex Muslims of North America, Ayaan Hirsi Ali etc etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Wikipedia where anyone can post?

    You're still sticking with wiki hating whitey?
    Help!!!! wrote: »
    New Jersey homeland security put Antifa on terrorist list

    There's an unclassified article, but no list.
    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Look on youtube plenty to choose from, actual people, ex Muslims
    EG: ex Muslims of North America, Ayaan Hirsi Ali etc etc

    You said "all". Wheres the proof?

    And what about this abortion thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Odhinn wrote: »
    What the jaysus....? Explain please.

    Why does George Soros have his grubby little fingers all over the place

    He is funding groups fighting to repeal the 8th amendment
    We in the west are told we shouldn't have children
    Soros encourages the EU to take in more migrants
    Soros funded NGO's caught out human trafficking in the MED


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Why does George Soros have his grubby little fingers all over the place
    He is funding groups fighting to repeal the 8th amendment
    We in the west are told we shouldn't have children
    Soros encourages the EU to take in more migrants
    Soros funded NGO's caught out human trafficking in the MED

    Conspiracy lunacy, you're on your own going down that rabbit hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Berserker wrote: »
    Clonskeagh mosque have decided to open their doors to the homeless for the cold snap that is on it's way. A very decent and welcome gesture by them.

    Clonskeagh mosque opens it's doors.

    Just a way of recruiting members. Find those that are down & outs, mental health problems, family issues show them some compassion & slowly turn their heads to joining. Has been done many times by cults all around the world.
    I guess its better then how they recruit in Africa or Asia though

    The support that's being provided is called " Cold Weather Initiative " specifically for rough sleepers.
    It activates when there's a cold snap or drop in temperature.
    Most charities or groups involved with homeless individuals activate a few beds.
    The individual presents at a late hour and leaves early in the morning with food and a crash mat bring provided.
    I've worked quite a bit with rough sleepers most are barely able to eat and just want to sleep.

    How on earth you'd convert or recruit them is beyond me .


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Odhinn wrote: »
    It's a sad state of affairs when ignorance of muslims makes it threadworthy. They're obliged by their religion to be charitable. In theory, you're not supposed to draw any attention to your own charitable works either.

    That's a bit harsh, calling Muslims ignorant :eek: Just kidding :D

    Most religions are charitable, aren't they? And Catholic folk got lambasted in here before the Muslim folk (though it was later clarified)...so there's no monopoly on religious oppression in here!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    That's a bit harsh, calling Muslims ignorant :eek: Just kidding :D

    Most religions are charitable, aren't they? And Catholic folk got lambasted in here before the Muslim folk (though it was later clarified)...so there's no monopoly on religious oppression in here!

    Generally. Some make it official, with percentages to be given and so on. Certainly the sense of charity I have came from irish catholicism, which is one of its few positives.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    The support that's being provided is called " Cold Weather Initiative " specifically for rough sleepers.
    It activates when there's a cold snap or drop in temperature.
    Most charities or groups involved with homeless individuals activate a few beds.
    The individual presents at a late hour and leaves early in the morning with food and a crash mat bring provided.
    I've worked quite a bit with rough sleepers most are barely able to eat and just want to sleep.

    How on earth you'd convert or recruit them is beyond me .

    It starts off with giving them fake beards. Later on they give them islamic nick names like "jihad joe" and "muhammed mick". They then ply them with halal drink. Before ye know it, they're off suicide bombing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Conspiracy lunacy, you're on your own going down that rabbit hole.

    So Soros is not funding the groups wanting to repeal the 8th
    Take some time to look up what his Open Borders are funding. He just transfered billions into OP. If he really cared about the migrants he would put that money to good use in Africa or Asia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Odhinn wrote: »
    You're still sticking with wiki hating whitey?

    Websites dont hate people, writer do;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    The support that's being provided is called " Cold Weather Initiative " specifically for rough sleepers.
    It activates when there's a cold snap or drop in temperature.
    Most charities or groups involved with homeless individuals activate a few beds.
    The individual presents at a late hour and leaves early in the morning with food and a crash mat bring provided.
    I've worked quite a bit with rough sleepers most are barely able to eat and just want to sleep.

    How on earth you'd convert or recruit them is beyond me .

    Same as any other cult


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Odhinn wrote: »
    It starts off with giving them fake beards. Later on they give them islamic nick names like "jihad joe" and "muhammed mick". They then ply them with halal drink. Before ye know it, they're off suicide bombing.

    I'd like to know how many of the ISIS fighters that went from Ireland were members of the Mosque. I'd be very surprised if most didn't. CM is the only mosque that I've seen that has been linked to extremists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,279 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    They encourage abortions in the west so they encourage multi culturalism

    they want white people to have abortions so they can encourage multi culturalism? yet
    1. it's not just white people who have abortions.
    2. multi culturalism has been happening regardless of people having abortions.
    so given those facts, how does your statement work?

    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Funded by George Soros, if you support a man who is willing to disrupt a countries economy so he can make money, then admit what happens afterwards is not his problem then you are part of whats wrong in the world

    No you can not unless it seems your a nut of the left

    more conspiracy theorist nonsense.
    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Wikipedia where anyone can post?

    New Jersey homeland security put Antifa on terrorist list

    Look on youtube plenty to choose from, actual people, ex Muslims
    EG: ex Muslims of North America, Ayaan Hirsi Ali etc etc

    anyone can throw up a video claiming whatever on youtube. if you are complaining about wikipedia because it can be edited (dispite the fact it links to other sources) then you don't get to use youtube as a source.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    The support that's being provided is called " Cold Weather Initiative " specifically for rough sleepers.
    It activates when there's a cold snap or drop in temperature.
    Most charities or groups involved with homeless individuals activate a few beds.
    The individual presents at a late hour and leaves early in the morning with food and a crash mat bring provided.
    I've worked quite a bit with rough sleepers most are barely able to eat and just want to sleep.

    How on earth you'd convert or recruit them is beyond me .

    Same as any other cult

    Is Islam a cult ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    they want white people to have abortions so they can encourage multi culturalism? yet
    1. it's not just white people who have abortions.
    2. multi culturalism has been happening regardless of people having abortions.
    so given those facts, how does your statement work?

    more conspiracy theorist nonsense.

    anyone can throw up a video claiming whatever on youtube. if you are complaining about wikipedia because it can be edited (dispite the fact it links to other sources) then you don't get to use youtube as a source.

    No but its white people who seem to think they have to save everyone apart from themselves

    Hes on video saying it himself:rolleyes:

    Youtube has an actual person that you can see, wikipedia does not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Is Islam a cult ?

    Isn't all religions?


  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    Is Islam a cult ?

    It has a lot of the characteristics of one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    quintana76 wrote: »
    It has a lot of the characteristics of one.

    Generally there's very little that seperates a religion from a cult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Generally there's very little that seperates a religion from a cult.

    Wow finally something we can agree on;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Odhinn wrote: »
    quintana76 wrote: »
    It has a lot of the characteristics of one.

    Generally there's very little that seperates a religion from a cult.

    Thank God thanks cleared up.. I work for cult.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    quintana76 wrote: »
    It has a lot of the characteristics of one.

    To be fair a lot of religions are like cults.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,279 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    No but its white people who seem to think they have to save everyone apart from themselves

    but but. you said "they" want white people to have abortions so they can encourage multi culturalism. yet as we have discovered, it's not just white people who have abortions and multi culturalism happens dispite people having abortions.
    so, how does that work, and what has that got to do with saving people?

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    but but. you said "they" want white people to have abortions so they can encourage multi culturalism. yet as we have discovered, it's not just white people who have abortions and multi culturalism happens dispite people having abortions.
    so, how does that work, and what has that got to do with saving people?

    Its ok dont believe it & give it 10 years;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭dreamliner


    quintana76 wrote: »
    If it is an obligation it is hardly true charity. Telling the media about the opening to the homeless is drawing attention their charitable works.

    If it is an obligation it is hardly true charity. Telling the media about the opening to the homeless is drawing attention their charitable works.

    The media were told so that awareness could be raised and people to know about it and avail of the help. How else do you expect word to get out? Telepathy? Are you suggesting that they open up their mosque and lay out all the beds and hope the homeless feel some spirit sending them towards the place?

    As for it meaning nothing because it's their obligation, the obligation is the zakah, paid on the Eid celebration. This would come under the bracket of 'sadaqah', it is optional, heavily encouraged though.

    As for your cynical attempt to ruin their good intentions and imply they're showing off, the whole thing about staying quiet on charitable acts is when for example someone gives something to a homeless person to eat, or when sends money to war torn countries to aid with food supplies etc that they don't go and post on facebook for example "I just sent 100eu to help the starving people of Somalia" or to go about telling friends and family that you just helped out a homeless person. That is what's not allowed and is to be kept to one's self, the belief being that it's between you and God, he's seen it and only he needs to see it.

    Really and truly there is nothing to see here other than an important community in south Dublin who have existed for a long time now going out their way to help with the homeless crisis this country has. It is so sad to see that people will rather sit around looking to try and find any excuse possible to cancel out their good intentions and make it out to be something a lot more sinister. Have some shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,279 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Its ok dont believe it & give it 10 years


    don't believe what? give what 10 years?

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    dreamliner wrote: »
    The media were told so that awareness could be raised and people to know about it and avail of the help. How else do you expect word to get out? Telepathy? Are you suggesting that they open up their mosque and lay out all the beds and hope the homeless feel some spirit sending them towards the place?

    As for it meaning nothing because it's their obligation, the obligation is the zakah, paid on the Eid celebration. This would come under the bracket of 'sadaqah', it is optional, heavily encouraged though.

    As for your cynical attempt to ruin their good intentions and imply they're showing off, the whole thing about staying quiet on charitable acts is when for example someone gives something to a homeless person to eat, or when sends money to war torn countries to aid with food supplies etc that they don't go and post on facebook for example "I just sent 100eu to help the starving people of Somalia" or to go about telling friends and family that you just helped out a homeless person. That is what's not allowed and is to be kept to one's self, the belief being that it's between you and God, he's seen it and only he needs to see it.

    Really and truly there is nothing to see here other than an important community in south Dublin who have existed for a long time now going out their way to help with the homeless crisis this country has. It is so sad to see that people will rather sit around looking to try and find any excuse possible to cancel out their good intentions and make it out to be something a lot more sinister. Have some shame.

    So maybe you can explain what the others couldn't or wouldn't
    Are you OK with their links to the Muslim Brotherhood?
    Are you OK that they have Human Appeal clothes banks, H.A. have links to Hamas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭PeterParker957


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    dreamliner wrote: »
    The media were told so that awareness could be raised and people to know about it and avail of the help. How else do you expect word to get out? Telepathy? Are you suggesting that they open up their mosque and lay out all the beds and hope the homeless feel some spirit sending them towards the place?

    As for it meaning nothing because it's their obligation, the obligation is the zakah, paid on the Eid celebration. This would come under the bracket of 'sadaqah', it is optional, heavily encouraged though.

    As for your cynical attempt to ruin their good intentions and imply they're showing off, the whole thing about staying quiet on charitable acts is when for example someone gives something to a homeless person to eat, or when sends money to war torn countries to aid with food supplies etc that they don't go and post on facebook for example "I just sent 100eu to help the starving people of Somalia" or to go about telling friends and family that you just helped out a homeless person. That is what's not allowed and is to be kept to one's self, the belief being that it's between you and God, he's seen it and only he needs to see it.

    Really and truly there is nothing to see here other than an important community in south Dublin who have existed for a long time now going out their way to help with the homeless crisis this country has. It is so sad to see that people will rather sit around looking to try and find any excuse possible to cancel out their good intentions and make it out to be something a lot more sinister. Have some shame.

    So maybe you can explain what the others couldn't or wouldn't
    Are you OK with their links to the Muslim Brotherhood?
    Are you OK that they have Human Appeal clothes banks, H.A. have links to Hamas?

    You might want to ask who his childhood pal is.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    Is Islam a cult ?

    Of course. A religion is a cult that became mainstream.


  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    511 wrote: »
    Of course. A religion is a cult that became mainstream.

    Absolutely true. Islam still seems to have held on to it's cultish antecedents far more than others. Despite appearances to the contrary there still seems to be a deep insecurity as manifested for example in the death sentence for leaving the religion.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭dreamliner


    quintana76 wrote: »
    511 wrote: »
    Of course. A religion is a cult that became mainstream.

    Absolutely true. Islam still seems to have held on to it's cultish antecedents far more than others. Despite appearances to the contrary there still seems to be a deep insecurity as manifested for example in the death sentence for leaving the religion.

    Not sure about that, the view of Muslims I've spoken to of people who leave the faith (which is actually an extremely minute number even in the west) is that they pity them. Not much anger but rather pity ... obviously most religions teach the same thing about our fate if we follow a different path in life ... an understandable reaction therefore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭PeterParker957


    dreamliner wrote: »
    quintana76 wrote: »
    511 wrote: »
    Of course. A religion is a cult that became mainstream.

    Absolutely true. Islam still seems to have held on to it's cultish antecedents far more than others. Despite appearances to the contrary there still seems to be a deep insecurity as manifested for example in the death sentence for leaving the religion.

    Not sure about that, the view of Muslims I've spoken to of people who leave the faith (which is actually an extremely minute number even in the west) is that they pity them. Not much anger but rather pity ... obviously most religions teach the same thing about our fate if we follow a different path in life ... an understandable reaction therefore.

    It's also possible they're lying to you. Apostates are killed around the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    dreamliner wrote: »
    Not sure about that, the view of Muslims I've spoken to of people who leave the faith (which is actually an extremely minute number even in the west) is that they pity them. Not much anger but rather pity ... obviously most religions teach the same thing about our fate if we follow a different path in life ... an understandable reaction therefore.

    Apostates are condemned to death in Islamic scripture
    Could you answer the questions I asked you #237?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    The support that's being provided is called " Cold Weather Initiative " specifically for rough sleepers.
    It activates when there's a cold snap or drop in temperature.
    Most charities or groups involved with homeless individuals activate a few beds.
    The individual presents at a late hour and leaves early in the morning with food and a crash mat bring provided.
    I've worked quite a bit with rough sleepers most are barely able to eat and just want to sleep.

    How on earth you'd convert or recruit them is beyond me .

    Same as any other cult

    How in the space of a night or two would you convert a homeless roughsleeper possibly suffering from mental ill health and addiction to Muslim fundamentalist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    How in the space of a night or two would you convert a homeless roughsleeper possibly suffering from mental ill health and addiction to Muslim fundamentalist?

    Because they will encourage them to come back, they will go down to the homeless areas etc Its not that hard to do:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    How in the space of a night or two would you convert a homeless roughsleeper possibly suffering from mental ill health and addiction to Muslim fundamentalist?

    Because they will encourage them to come back, they will go down to the homeless areas etc Its not that hard to do:rolleyes:

    Any idea what's involved in treating addiction for a homeless person ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Any idea what's involved in treating addiction for a homeless person ?

    Yes I do actually. Not all on the streets are addicts though
    Have you ever seen someone who was a really nice person get radicalised?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I know that , so tell us about a detox ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    I know that , so tell us about a detox ?

    You know what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Any idea what's involved in treating addiction for a homeless person ?

    Yes I do actually. Not all on the streets are addicts though
    Have you ever seen someone who was a really nice person get radicalised?

    No .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I know all homeless people aren't addicts.


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