Clonskeagh Mosque - Homeless

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 6:34pm

Odhinn wrote: »

That's nice. Have you anymore groundless stuff to share with us?

Care to explain the oxford and merriam webster dating of the word "islamophobia"?

You do know you cant be phobic of an idealogy?

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 6:36pm

seachto7 wrote: »

I don't agree with MysticMonk, but the SPLC referred to Majid Nawaz as an extremist lately if I'm not mistaken. I think he took them to court. I haven't followed it in a while, but if they're against him, then they're up to no good in my eyes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/10/maajid-nawaz-splc-anti-muslim-extremist/505685/

Theres a list of people where normally they would be classed as on the left but these nutters label them extremists
By the way SPLC is funded by non other than George Soros so says it all really

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 6:37pm

end of the road wrote: »

this is more ranting.

nope. none of those are on the banned organisations list to my knowledge. so they are not terrorist organisations at all.

Antifa are on a terrorist list in America

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 6:39pm

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Yet no reply to the Prime Time link i posted earlier ??

Are you still waiting? No way:D:D

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 6:42pm

biko wrote: »

It is sad state of affairs when it is threadworthy that Muslims help their fellow men.

Nope not all Muslims but a mosque with links to the Muslim Brotherhood who have a clothes bank outside collected for Hamas

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 6:45pm

Why do ALL ex Muslims speak out against Islam?
Why do ALL ex Muslims tell the exact same things that are going to happen? That Islam is going to take over the west? Where do you think they get this from? Do you think theres a club that ex Muslims go to get there stories straight to lie about Islam?
OR
OR
OR
Does it have something that Muslims get thought is Mosques?

end of the road · 28-11-2017 6:45pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

Well all the sites you seem to like hate " white people "

in what way do they "hate white people"

Help!!!! wrote: »

Are you really getting statistics from the Southern Poverty Law Centre? No wonder you are so deluded

why, what's wrong with them? they debunk the nonsense being spouted?

Help!!!! wrote: »

You do know you cant be phobic of an idealogy?

yes you can. very much so.

Odhinn · 28-11-2017 6:47pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

Well all the sites you seem to like hate " white people "

Wikipedia and the oxford english dictionary are hating on whitey eh?

Help!!!! wrote: »

Antifa are on a terrorist list in America

Not as far as I can see
https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

Help!!!! wrote: »

Why do ALL ex Muslims speak out against Islam?
...........

Ok - would you mind proving that this is the case?

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 6:53pm

end of the road wrote: »

in what way do they "hate white people"

why, what's wrong with them? they debunk the nonsense being spouted?

yes you can. very much so.

They encourage abortions in the west so they encourage multi culturalism

Funded by George Soros, if you support a man who is willing to disrupt a countries economy so he can make money, then admit what happens afterwards is not his problem then you are part of whats wrong in the world

No you can not unless it seems your a nut of the left

Odhinn · 28-11-2017 6:54pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

They encourage abortions in the west so they encourage multi culturalism

What the jaysus....? Explain please.

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 6:58pm

Odhinn wrote: »

Wikipedia and the oxford english dictionary are hating on whitey eh?

Not as far as I can see
https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

Ok - would you mind proving that this is the case?

Wikipedia where anyone can post?

New Jersey homeland security put Antifa on terrorist list

Look on youtube plenty to choose from, actual people, ex Muslims
EG: ex Muslims of North America, Ayaan Hirsi Ali etc etc

Odhinn · 28-11-2017 7:03pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

Wikipedia where anyone can post?

You're still sticking with wiki hating whitey?

Help!!!! wrote: »

New Jersey homeland security put Antifa on terrorist list

There's an unclassified article, but no list.

Help!!!! wrote: »

Look on youtube plenty to choose from, actual people, ex Muslims
EG: ex Muslims of North America, Ayaan Hirsi Ali etc etc

You said "all". Wheres the proof?

And what about this abortion thing?

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 7:06pm

Odhinn wrote: »

What the jaysus....? Explain please.

Why does George Soros have his grubby little fingers all over the place

He is funding groups fighting to repeal the 8th amendment
We in the west are told we shouldn't have children
Soros encourages the EU to take in more migrants
Soros funded NGO's caught out human trafficking in the MED

Odhinn · 28-11-2017 7:10pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

Why does George Soros have his grubby little fingers all over the place
He is funding groups fighting to repeal the 8th amendment
We in the west are told we shouldn't have children
Soros encourages the EU to take in more migrants
Soros funded NGO's caught out human trafficking in the MED

Conspiracy lunacy, you're on your own going down that rabbit hole.

corner of hells · 28-11-2017 7:13pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

Berserker wrote: »

Clonskeagh mosque have decided to open their doors to the homeless for the cold snap that is on it's way. A very decent and welcome gesture by them.

Clonskeagh mosque opens it's doors.

Just a way of recruiting members. Find those that are down & outs, mental health problems, family issues show them some compassion & slowly turn their heads to joining. Has been done many times by cults all around the world.
I guess its better then how they recruit in Africa or Asia though

The support that's being provided is called " Cold Weather Initiative " specifically for rough sleepers.
It activates when there's a cold snap or drop in temperature.
Most charities or groups involved with homeless individuals activate a few beds.
The individual presents at a late hour and leaves early in the morning with food and a crash mat bring provided.
I've worked quite a bit with rough sleepers most are barely able to eat and just want to sleep.

How on earth you'd convert or recruit them is beyond me .

Hannibal_Smith · 28-11-2017 7:17pm

Odhinn wrote: »

It's a sad state of affairs when ignorance of muslims makes it threadworthy. They're obliged by their religion to be charitable. In theory, you're not supposed to draw any attention to your own charitable works either.

That's a bit harsh, calling Muslims ignorant :eek: Just kidding

Most religions are charitable, aren't they? And Catholic folk got lambasted in here before the Muslim folk (though it was later clarified)...so there's no monopoly on religious oppression in here!

Odhinn · 28-11-2017 7:19pm

Hannibal_Smith wrote: »

That's a bit harsh, calling Muslims ignorant :eek: Just kidding

Most religions are charitable, aren't they? And Catholic folk got lambasted in here before the Muslim folk (though it was later clarified)...so there's no monopoly on religious oppression in here!

Generally. Some make it official, with percentages to be given and so on. Certainly the sense of charity I have came from irish catholicism, which is one of its few positives.

Odhinn · 28-11-2017 7:21pm

corner of hells wrote: »

The support that's being provided is called " Cold Weather Initiative " specifically for rough sleepers.
It activates when there's a cold snap or drop in temperature.
Most charities or groups involved with homeless individuals activate a few beds.
The individual presents at a late hour and leaves early in the morning with food and a crash mat bring provided.
I've worked quite a bit with rough sleepers most are barely able to eat and just want to sleep.

How on earth you'd convert or recruit them is beyond me .

It starts off with giving them fake beards. Later on they give them islamic nick names like "jihad joe" and "muhammed mick". They then ply them with halal drink. Before ye know it, they're off suicide bombing.

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 7:23pm

Odhinn wrote: »

Conspiracy lunacy, you're on your own going down that rabbit hole.

So Soros is not funding the groups wanting to repeal the 8th
Take some time to look up what his Open Borders are funding. He just transfered billions into OP. If he really cared about the migrants he would put that money to good use in Africa or Asia

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 7:24pm

Odhinn wrote: »

You're still sticking with wiki hating whitey?

Websites dont hate people, writer do;)

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 7:25pm

corner of hells wrote: »

The support that's being provided is called " Cold Weather Initiative " specifically for rough sleepers.
It activates when there's a cold snap or drop in temperature.
Most charities or groups involved with homeless individuals activate a few beds.
The individual presents at a late hour and leaves early in the morning with food and a crash mat bring provided.
I've worked quite a bit with rough sleepers most are barely able to eat and just want to sleep.

How on earth you'd convert or recruit them is beyond me .

Same as any other cult

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 7:28pm

Odhinn wrote: »

It starts off with giving them fake beards. Later on they give them islamic nick names like "jihad joe" and "muhammed mick". They then ply them with halal drink. Before ye know it, they're off suicide bombing.

I'd like to know how many of the ISIS fighters that went from Ireland were members of the Mosque. I'd be very surprised if most didn't. CM is the only mosque that I've seen that has been linked to extremists

end of the road · 28-11-2017 7:33pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

They encourage abortions in the west so they encourage multi culturalism

they want white people to have abortions so they can encourage multi culturalism? yet
1. it's not just white people who have abortions.
2. multi culturalism has been happening regardless of people having abortions.
so given those facts, how does your statement work?

Help!!!! wrote: »

Funded by George Soros, if you support a man who is willing to disrupt a countries economy so he can make money, then admit what happens afterwards is not his problem then you are part of whats wrong in the world

No you can not unless it seems your a nut of the left

more conspiracy theorist nonsense.

Help!!!! wrote: »

Wikipedia where anyone can post?

New Jersey homeland security put Antifa on terrorist list

Look on youtube plenty to choose from, actual people, ex Muslims
EG: ex Muslims of North America, Ayaan Hirsi Ali etc etc

anyone can throw up a video claiming whatever on youtube. if you are complaining about wikipedia because it can be edited (dispite the fact it links to other sources) then you don't get to use youtube as a source.

corner of hells · 28-11-2017 7:41pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

The support that's being provided is called " Cold Weather Initiative " specifically for rough sleepers.
It activates when there's a cold snap or drop in temperature.
Most charities or groups involved with homeless individuals activate a few beds.
The individual presents at a late hour and leaves early in the morning with food and a crash mat bring provided.
I've worked quite a bit with rough sleepers most are barely able to eat and just want to sleep.

How on earth you'd convert or recruit them is beyond me .

Same as any other cult

Is Islam a cult ?

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 7:46pm

end of the road wrote: »

they want white people to have abortions so they can encourage multi culturalism? yet
1. it's not just white people who have abortions.
2. multi culturalism has been happening regardless of people having abortions.
so given those facts, how does your statement work?

more conspiracy theorist nonsense.

anyone can throw up a video claiming whatever on youtube. if you are complaining about wikipedia because it can be edited (dispite the fact it links to other sources) then you don't get to use youtube as a source.

No but its white people who seem to think they have to save everyone apart from themselves

Hes on video saying it himself:rolleyes:

Youtube has an actual person that you can see, wikipedia does not

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 7:47pm

corner of hells wrote: »

Is Islam a cult ?

Isn't all religions?

quintana76 · 28-11-2017 7:49pm

corner of hells wrote: »

Is Islam a cult ?

It has a lot of the characteristics of one.

Odhinn · 28-11-2017 7:50pm

quintana76 wrote: »

It has a lot of the characteristics of one.

Generally there's very little that seperates a religion from a cult.

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 7:53pm

Odhinn wrote: »

Generally there's very little that seperates a religion from a cult.

Wow finally something we can agree on;)

corner of hells · 28-11-2017 8:02pm

Odhinn wrote: »

quintana76 wrote: »

It has a lot of the characteristics of one.

Generally there's very little that seperates a religion from a cult.

Thank God thanks cleared up.. I work for cult.

Hannibal_Smith · 28-11-2017 8:16pm

quintana76 wrote: »

It has a lot of the characteristics of one.

To be fair a lot of religions are like cults.

end of the road · 28-11-2017 8:23pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

No but its white people who seem to think they have to save everyone apart from themselves

but but. you said "they" want white people to have abortions so they can encourage multi culturalism. yet as we have discovered, it's not just white people who have abortions and multi culturalism happens dispite people having abortions.
so, how does that work, and what has that got to do with saving people?

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 8:40pm

end of the road wrote: »

but but. you said "they" want white people to have abortions so they can encourage multi culturalism. yet as we have discovered, it's not just white people who have abortions and multi culturalism happens dispite people having abortions.
so, how does that work, and what has that got to do with saving people?

Its ok dont believe it & give it 10 years;)

dreamliner · 28-11-2017 8:45pm

quintana76 wrote: »

If it is an obligation it is hardly true charity. Telling the media about the opening to the homeless is drawing attention their charitable works.

If it is an obligation it is hardly true charity. Telling the media about the opening to the homeless is drawing attention their charitable works.

The media were told so that awareness could be raised and people to know about it and avail of the help. How else do you expect word to get out? Telepathy? Are you suggesting that they open up their mosque and lay out all the beds and hope the homeless feel some spirit sending them towards the place?

As for it meaning nothing because it's their obligation, the obligation is the zakah, paid on the Eid celebration. This would come under the bracket of 'sadaqah', it is optional, heavily encouraged though.

As for your cynical attempt to ruin their good intentions and imply they're showing off, the whole thing about staying quiet on charitable acts is when for example someone gives something to a homeless person to eat, or when sends money to war torn countries to aid with food supplies etc that they don't go and post on facebook for example "I just sent 100eu to help the starving people of Somalia" or to go about telling friends and family that you just helped out a homeless person. That is what's not allowed and is to be kept to one's self, the belief being that it's between you and God, he's seen it and only he needs to see it.

Really and truly there is nothing to see here other than an important community in south Dublin who have existed for a long time now going out their way to help with the homeless crisis this country has. It is so sad to see that people will rather sit around looking to try and find any excuse possible to cancel out their good intentions and make it out to be something a lot more sinister. Have some shame.

end of the road · 28-11-2017 8:49pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

Its ok dont believe it & give it 10 years

don't believe what? give what 10 years?

Help!!!! · 28-11-2017 9:03pm

dreamliner wrote: »

The media were told so that awareness could be raised and people to know about it and avail of the help. How else do you expect word to get out? Telepathy? Are you suggesting that they open up their mosque and lay out all the beds and hope the homeless feel some spirit sending them towards the place?

As for it meaning nothing because it's their obligation, the obligation is the zakah, paid on the Eid celebration. This would come under the bracket of 'sadaqah', it is optional, heavily encouraged though.

As for your cynical attempt to ruin their good intentions and imply they're showing off, the whole thing about staying quiet on charitable acts is when for example someone gives something to a homeless person to eat, or when sends money to war torn countries to aid with food supplies etc that they don't go and post on facebook for example "I just sent 100eu to help the starving people of Somalia" or to go about telling friends and family that you just helped out a homeless person. That is what's not allowed and is to be kept to one's self, the belief being that it's between you and God, he's seen it and only he needs to see it.

Really and truly there is nothing to see here other than an important community in south Dublin who have existed for a long time now going out their way to help with the homeless crisis this country has. It is so sad to see that people will rather sit around looking to try and find any excuse possible to cancel out their good intentions and make it out to be something a lot more sinister. Have some shame.

So maybe you can explain what the others couldn't or wouldn't
Are you OK with their links to the Muslim Brotherhood?
Are you OK that they have Human Appeal clothes banks, H.A. have links to Hamas?

PeterParker957 · 28-11-2017 9:42pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

dreamliner wrote: »

The media were told so that awareness could be raised and people to know about it and avail of the help. How else do you expect word to get out? Telepathy? Are you suggesting that they open up their mosque and lay out all the beds and hope the homeless feel some spirit sending them towards the place?

As for it meaning nothing because it's their obligation, the obligation is the zakah, paid on the Eid celebration. This would come under the bracket of 'sadaqah', it is optional, heavily encouraged though.

As for your cynical attempt to ruin their good intentions and imply they're showing off, the whole thing about staying quiet on charitable acts is when for example someone gives something to a homeless person to eat, or when sends money to war torn countries to aid with food supplies etc that they don't go and post on facebook for example "I just sent 100eu to help the starving people of Somalia" or to go about telling friends and family that you just helped out a homeless person. That is what's not allowed and is to be kept to one's self, the belief being that it's between you and God, he's seen it and only he needs to see it.

Really and truly there is nothing to see here other than an important community in south Dublin who have existed for a long time now going out their way to help with the homeless crisis this country has. It is so sad to see that people will rather sit around looking to try and find any excuse possible to cancel out their good intentions and make it out to be something a lot more sinister. Have some shame.

So maybe you can explain what the others couldn't or wouldn't
Are you OK with their links to the Muslim Brotherhood?
Are you OK that they have Human Appeal clothes banks, H.A. have links to Hamas?

You might want to ask who his childhood pal is.....

29-11-2017 6:32am

corner of hells wrote: »

Is Islam a cult ?

Of course. A religion is a cult that became mainstream.

quintana76 · 29-11-2017 12:09pm

511 wrote: »

Of course. A religion is a cult that became mainstream.

Absolutely true. Islam still seems to have held on to it's cultish antecedents far more than others. Despite appearances to the contrary there still seems to be a deep insecurity as manifested for example in the death sentence for leaving the religion.

dreamliner · 29-11-2017 12:26pm

quintana76 wrote: »

511 wrote: »

Of course. A religion is a cult that became mainstream.

Absolutely true. Islam still seems to have held on to it's cultish antecedents far more than others. Despite appearances to the contrary there still seems to be a deep insecurity as manifested for example in the death sentence for leaving the religion.

Not sure about that, the view of Muslims I've spoken to of people who leave the faith (which is actually an extremely minute number even in the west) is that they pity them. Not much anger but rather pity ... obviously most religions teach the same thing about our fate if we follow a different path in life ... an understandable reaction therefore.

PeterParker957 · 29-11-2017 12:30pm

dreamliner wrote: »

quintana76 wrote: »

511 wrote: »

Of course. A religion is a cult that became mainstream.

Absolutely true. Islam still seems to have held on to it's cultish antecedents far more than others. Despite appearances to the contrary there still seems to be a deep insecurity as manifested for example in the death sentence for leaving the religion.

Not sure about that, the view of Muslims I've spoken to of people who leave the faith (which is actually an extremely minute number even in the west) is that they pity them. Not much anger but rather pity ... obviously most religions teach the same thing about our fate if we follow a different path in life ... an understandable reaction therefore.

It's also possible they're lying to you. Apostates are killed around the world.

Help!!!! · 29-11-2017 1:23pm

dreamliner wrote: »

Not sure about that, the view of Muslims I've spoken to of people who leave the faith (which is actually an extremely minute number even in the west) is that they pity them. Not much anger but rather pity ... obviously most religions teach the same thing about our fate if we follow a different path in life ... an understandable reaction therefore.

Apostates are condemned to death in Islamic scripture
Could you answer the questions I asked you #237?

corner of hells · 29-11-2017 3:22pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

The support that's being provided is called " Cold Weather Initiative " specifically for rough sleepers.
It activates when there's a cold snap or drop in temperature.
Most charities or groups involved with homeless individuals activate a few beds.
The individual presents at a late hour and leaves early in the morning with food and a crash mat bring provided.
I've worked quite a bit with rough sleepers most are barely able to eat and just want to sleep.

How on earth you'd convert or recruit them is beyond me .

Same as any other cult

How in the space of a night or two would you convert a homeless roughsleeper possibly suffering from mental ill health and addiction to Muslim fundamentalist?

Help!!!! · 29-11-2017 3:47pm

corner of hells wrote: »

How in the space of a night or two would you convert a homeless roughsleeper possibly suffering from mental ill health and addiction to Muslim fundamentalist?

Because they will encourage them to come back, they will go down to the homeless areas etc Its not that hard to do:rolleyes:

corner of hells · 29-11-2017 3:51pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

How in the space of a night or two would you convert a homeless roughsleeper possibly suffering from mental ill health and addiction to Muslim fundamentalist?

Because they will encourage them to come back, they will go down to the homeless areas etc Its not that hard to do:rolleyes:

Any idea what's involved in treating addiction for a homeless person ?

Help!!!! · 29-11-2017 3:54pm

corner of hells wrote: »

Any idea what's involved in treating addiction for a homeless person ?

Yes I do actually. Not all on the streets are addicts though
Have you ever seen someone who was a really nice person get radicalised?

corner of hells · 29-11-2017 3:59pm

I know that , so tell us about a detox ?

Help!!!! · 29-11-2017 4:01pm

corner of hells wrote: »

I know that , so tell us about a detox ?

You know what?

corner of hells · 29-11-2017 4:01pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

Any idea what's involved in treating addiction for a homeless person ?

Yes I do actually. Not all on the streets are addicts though
Have you ever seen someone who was a really nice person get radicalised?

No .

corner of hells · 29-11-2017 4:02pm

I know all homeless people aren't addicts.

Clonskeagh Mosque - Homeless

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