Playstation Clan clean up/migrations/management

Generic Dreadhead · 20-09-2017 2:59pm

SeanHarty wrote: »

I don't think people really give a ****e when people do what you guys do and team up.

its when people are doing that but at the same time coming on here and going on about why communities is great and that it should be used to organise raids/strikes/ etc.

practice what you preach.

Yeah Sean, except I actually did.

ˆ This Raid went ahead and we did the Baths (on my Alt)

Maybe you're of the assumption I'm blitzing the raid on my 6th run now.
I spent Wed, Thur, Sun and Mon actually doing it on my main character (Blind) and yesterday we just got back to the boss again, having not killed him before the reset.
I haven't finished the Raid once. I don't even have a 3rd character now.

Mitch Connor · 20-09-2017 2:59pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

When it came to raids there was always full clarity, it was either posted in the chat messages and first 5 to reply were in. If it wasnt done in the chat it was done here on boards exactly the same way, first 5 were in. I have already seen people throw up messages to start raid groups and be completely ignored (Well ignored might not be the best choice of words on this) and people then arrange raids after their posts which gives the impression they are ignored.

No it feckin wasn't. That just is not true.

In D1 I 100% remember there being basically set raid groups for weeks after release of each one. I got bounced out of one when I missed one night and my spot was taken by someone else - had to go find a new group to raid with.

If I want to raid, and the group of players I usually play with are on and want to raid too, why wouldn't we just raid together? Thats how it was in D1 for most content drops. It changed over time and I am positive it will change in D2 too.

Of course there were occasions when someone would START a raid chat/group and the first 5 would be in, be it in either messages or here (and that has happened already in D2 with Sniper and others) but you are 100% lying if you are trying to say all raid groups were started in either messages or here and a free for all for the 5 remaining spots.

Messages (the specific clan chat), or here, weren't used to 100% create 100% of raid groups. They would be used to supplement numbers when needed quite often - just as I feel communities should be. And calling it a failure or unfit for purpose in the 7th day of a raid, in the new game, when the only two differences to messages are (1) half the clan aren't excluded and (2) notifications are broken is something I just don't understand.

I would also point out Generic was one of the most active and helpful members of the clan in Destiny 1, always happy to sherpa and explain. To have a b1tch about his grouping in the first couple of weeks, when you have 3 years of experience with how he helps, is a little sh1t (i know you, jonny, didn't call generic out - this is a general point to this specific conversation thread). Maybe when he has actually managed to get through the raid to completion once (or even one decent damage on the boss) he will be more open to creating new raid groups - and helping all the noobies.

Just yesterday Generic ran a Nightfall. Made his FT public, posted on communities and ran with the first two people that jumped in. Exactly as I would expect communities to be used.

No one has said all grouping should be done 100% in communities or prioritise communities. The argument has been that if you were going to post to clan chat about free spaces in something, or you would have in PSN messages back in D1, do that in communities.

Generic Dreadhead · 20-09-2017 3:02pm

Love how this thread is now an actual public sh!t slinging match where people (I counted as good mates) are singling me out to tell me if I shouldn't be playing the game with my friends. Bonkers

SeanHarty · 20-09-2017 3:09pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Love how this thread is now an actual public sh!t slinging match where people (I counted as good mates) are singling me out to tell me if I shouldn't be playing the game with my friends. Bonkers

ah come on now will ya, were all grown ups here I would still happily play the game with everyone involved in this no matter what side they hold.

But at the same time were all old enough to take criticism and say what we think without throwing toys out of the pram.

My name is URL · 20-09-2017 3:11pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

You seem to have been focused on watching what my group was doing.
Perhaps you could have just asked me if there was a spot going?
To which I would have replied "Yeah, we're on the boss now, if you know what to do, jump in". Simples.
Don't know why you're trying to "put me on blast" here frankly.

I posted that I was looking for a spot in the community, which is the avenue we've been asked to use when looking for spots.

I wasn't focused on watching what your group was doing. I noticed that yours was one of 2 groups raiding at the time I was looking for a raid spot.

And I'm not putting you on blast, your post happened to mention how people weren't giving the community a chance whist at the same time being critical of it. And having their own silo'd groups.

It's easy to extol the virtues of community when you have a consistent, externally pre-formed group to play with, and can pick and choose who to invite in as 'subs' regardless of whether they are using the app to look for spots.

That was a general point about communities and how people are touting them as being the 'new way' to find groups, and not necessarily directed at just you. Sorry if what I have said felt more personal than I intended it to

Generic Dreadhead · 20-09-2017 3:19pm

Where possible, I'm trying to finish the Raid with the same people I started the Raid with (much like I have in the past).
I don't see what the problem with that is.
I've been at this Raid for hours and hours over 5 evenings with seemingly everything and anything comprising against us to ensure we cannot do it a timely fashion.
And where I haven't been doing the Raid on my Warlock, I've been using Communities if I'm doing anything that last more than 15mins
My post history and my DestinyTracker account both attest to this, so my conscious is clear on that front (can't believe I'm using those words in regards to a bloody LFG tool)

Kimbot · 20-09-2017 3:32pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Love how this thread is now an actual public sh!t slinging match where people (I counted as good mates) are singling me out to tell me if I shouldn't be playing the game with my friends. Bonkers

I havent posted here to sling crap about you or anyone else however your the very person that pointed out I & others never posted in communites when in fact I had and I am pretty sure my posts are still on the community somewhere, I cant say everyone else had but I know 110% that I did when I first joined the community.

I have no issue with any person in the group and if I do I would straight out say it to their face and JCD will attest to that when I had words with him last week over an issue I had with him.

Nobody has actually said you shouldnt game with your mates in fairness, and I would consider alot of the clan as mates, we have spent the guts of 2/3 years gaming every day across various games together not just Destiny.

There is an issue with using communities and alot of people will agree with that, all everyone wants is a solution to an issue that has come up thats all. Its good to discuss things as a group like.

My name is URL · 20-09-2017 3:39pm

Anyway, the basic point I was making is that communities are not good for finding a) consistent groups to play with, and b) one off spots in raids... and I'm not saying that as someone who has not bothered to use the app.

I don't remember any time during D1 (two weeks into a raid launch) where there has only being 1 consistent group raiding over consecutive nights.

Mitch Connor · 20-09-2017 3:39pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

There is an issue with using communities and alot of people will agree with that, all everyone wants is a solution to an issue that has come up thats all. Its good to discuss things as a group like.

Beyond notifications - what are the issues that any other platform will solve, in your opinion?

Or, is notifications the only issue?

jcd5971 · 20-09-2017 3:46pm

Can we all take a step back here.

This is getting way too personal.

When this settled I still want to raid/PvP with Johnny generic conovar totz optimus dude neve.

On the raid thing I would have been in generics raid group week 1 would got delayed, if I had made it I would have been furious to see 3 nights later at boss I got replacrd . so to call him out on that is unfair.

Generic and civic ran the most Sherpa groups last year by far.

I even remember in Sherpa fest event we ran Johnny getting 5 newbies and myself and generic got 4 newbies while others cherry picked groups, so messages had issues too.

Point is I think communities are ****, I don't think the people running communities are ****.

Cool the jets lads.

Mitch Connor · 20-09-2017 3:49pm

If people are having such massive problems with Communites - please tell us what the solution is.

Tell us what platform will be easily accessible, offer in game notifications and allow all 200 members to interact in one place.

When this was discussed by admin - we went with easily accessible (PSN native app, mobile app) and all clan communication, along with the assumption that the app wouldn't be broken and thus notifications would be a consistent thing. Unfortunately the notifications are broken (they shouldn't be) but this is where we are now.

If you can't offer up a solution that meets all of those - what solution are you proposing, which of the criteria do you feel should be dropped to accomodate this solution, why do you think they should be dropped and what actions would you propose with this solution?

Someone, don't be all Brexit on this, pushing for us to leave communities with no viable alternative sorted.

Kimbot · 20-09-2017 3:59pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Beyond notifications - what are the issues that any other platform will solve, in your opinion?

Or, is notifications the only issue?

Well from what I am seeing the overall layout is a mess, I can't make out who is replying to who, so working out how many spots etc are left is hard to work out unless there is something I am completely missing with communities. I am not saying some other platform may solve it all on it owns hence the discussion.

As I said notifications is an issue for me, in the old chat I didnt have to come out of a game to see if people had spots as the message were appearing in the top corner of my screen and 1 simple button press was all that was needed to get in and reply.

The other night I put up a post for trials, culchannon replied but also sent me a message. I seen the message so that prompted me to open up the community and then I seen the other replies, if I didnt get the message directly I would have forgotten about the post and the lads could have gone off and done other things they needed in the game. I received no notification until 36 minutes after the reply (Notification came in on my phone app but still none on the console at all) and i only received one notification instead of 3. For new members to the clan this could be seen as the more experienced player not willing to help them out and ignoring them which is something I wouldn't like to see with such a great bunch of people in the clan as I know its not them ignoring players but instead maybe forgetting they posted etc and relying on notifications which arent working as intended. I want to see more members, not members leaving because of this issue if you get me.

jcd5971 · 20-09-2017 4:02pm

Mitch Connor wrote:

Someone, don't be all Brexit on this, pushing for us to leave communities with no viable alternative sorted.

This is already brexit we can't move forward we can't go backwards and its a mess.

Nobody has an actual solution.

The issue has been clearly stated by multiple people at this stage to be no notifications on new posts.
So I don't know why the question of what's the issue is still being asked.

The real problem now is that a discussion has turned into a **** slinging match that no good can possibly come from.

Someone should nuke this thread now to be honest before people start to fall out. This is a case of sentiment not translating well in text and e eryone including me has been seeing insults and digs where there probably aren't intended.

Kimbot · 20-09-2017 4:12pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

If people are having such massive problems with Communites - please tell us what the solution is.

Tell us what platform will be easily accessible, offer in game notifications and allow all 200 members to interact in one place.

When this was discussed by admin - we went with easily accessible (PSN native app, mobile app) and all clan communication, along with the assumption that the app wouldn't be broken and thus notifications would be a consistent thing. Unfortunately the notifications are broken (they shouldn't be) but this is where we are now.

If you can't offer up a solution that meets all of those - what solution are you proposing, which of the criteria do you feel should be dropped to accomodate this solution, why do you think they should be dropped and what actions would you propose with this solution?

Someone, don't be all Brexit on this, pushing for us to leave communities with no viable alternative sorted.

I dont think I have ever seen one person say to leave communites to be fair.

Maybe bring back large scale chat groups along side communities (I know figures wont allow everyone in because of the 100 limit) but what if there were specific Chats for activities, i.e: One for Trials/One for Quests etc. People could offer to help (For example Generic/Dude/Myself/Nev/Kanve/Conovar/whoever all say we will help out newer members with exotic quests, then we will be added into the group chat for exotic quests and the people that require help then get added, once they get their help they then leave the chat freeing up the space for others)
Some of the clan may never want to raid so having them in the raid chat would be pointless etc.

Might be a non runner but it could make things alot more inclusive too.

wes · 20-09-2017 4:13pm

The only other option I can think of is something like discord. Never used it, but would probably require a separate account etc, and I have no idea how easy it would be to manage. Would probably require everyone having to migrate over etc.

Not sure if my suggestion is all that helpful, but its an idea.

I am fine with communities, even if the notifications don't always work. I just make sure to check it a few times a day.

Mitch Connor · 20-09-2017 4:24pm

wes wrote: »

The only other option I can think of is something like discord. Never used it, but would probably require a separate account etc, and I have no idea how easy it would be to manage. Would probably require everyone having to migrate over etc.

Not sure if my suggestion is all that helpful, but its an idea.

I am fine with communities, even if the notifications don't always work. I just make sure to check it a few times a day.

I actually created a discord server for the boards clans - but was felt getting people to download an use an app not native to PSN was not going to work. You'd still have no ingame notifications, though mobile ones would work.

wes · 20-09-2017 4:29pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I actually created a discord server for the boards clans - but was felt getting people to download an use an app not native to PSN was not going to work. You'd still have no ingame notifications, though mobile ones would work.

Yeah, I think your right with that. Hopefully Sony, will fix the issue with the communities app, sometime soon.

Tazzimus · 20-09-2017 4:31pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Personally (and it may be bias as I'm in said group) I've no issue with people sorting out groups outside of the app. Just the same happened when we used messages. It isn't a case of communities or nothing. It's a case of if people are short and are looking for someone to jump in, use communities (imo). If you want to run some strikes or a nf or pvp or something and have spots then fire ahead and use communities to offer up.

If you have a group of friends who you want to prioritize first I don't see any issue there, for anyone.

Missed this somehow.
I've no issue either really, it was more of an observation is all.

I had understood it to be use the community app for everything, but the way you're explaining it makes much more sense, and works better considering how ****e the app is at present.

Mitch Connor · 20-09-2017 4:35pm

jcd5971 wrote: »

This is already brexit we can't move forward we can't go backwards and its a mess.

Nobody has an actual solution.

The issue has been clearly stated by multiple people at this stage to be no notifications on new posts.
So I don't know why the question of what's the issue is still being asked.

1. Maybe it is a mess, but the reality is I don't think anyone could have predicted it:

We were promised (by Sony) better communities. When we made the jump we were moving to something we assumed:
(a) would cater for an unlimited number (check) - Messages limited to half the current clan.
(b) Show replies to messages (check). Incidently, Messages doesn't surface specific replies. Communities links replies and shows you who is speaking to whom.
(c) Have in game and mobile notifications (broken).
Notifications are SUPPOSED to be working - that they aren't is a bug, not a feature of the app we figured would be unneeded.
(d) Has an Event feature to create specific events, with an automated party and check in feature.(check) - and if this was used more I think the notification issues would be somewhat pushed back. Want to do trials? Create an Event. Want to join that Trials run? Join the event.

2. I guess my issue with notifications is I just don't understand why people are so hung up on them. I got utterly fed up with the notifications pinging and obsuring my screen every 30 seconds in D1, or vibrating my phone all day. So i turned them off and have been using messages in the same way as communities (having to refresh) for 2 years. If communities did have notifications I would probably only have them on for replies (and be annoyed they don't work). As it is (and was) I get notification of game invites and party invites, thats it. I would have to admit that my lack of care for notifications would contribute massively to why i can't understand why they are such a massive red line issue and seen as an absolute blocker to being used at all. When having non-all-inclusive chats or non-console solutions are considered.

My name is URL · 20-09-2017 4:42pm

People did predict it though, which is why some were quite reluctant to leave the message group. I left it knowing full well that notifications weren't working for me, either on the PS4 itself or my devices.

Even if you manually refresh and check for posts every 15 minutes it's super easy to miss out on getting a spot in a NF or PvP without notifications

Mitch Connor · 20-09-2017 4:43pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

I dont think I have ever seen one person say to leave communites to be fair.

Maybe bring back large scale chat groups along side communities (I know figures wont allow everyone in because of the 100 limit) but what if there were specific Chats for activities, i.e: One for Trials/One for Quests etc. People could offer to help (For example Generic/Dude/Myself/Nev/Kanve/Conovar/whoever all say we will help out newer members with exotic quests, then we will be added into the group chat for exotic quests and the people that require help then get added, once they get their help they then leave the chat freeing up the space for others)
Some of the clan may never want to raid so having them in the raid chat would be pointless etc.

Might be a non runner but it could make things alot more inclusive too.

We had multiple chats before, and activity specific ones too iirc (certainly was a PVP one) and I don't think they worked, and were horrible to admin. Working out who 'deserved' to be where when more than 100 people wanted in was painful.

Another massive issue with chats (imo) is if someone is a dick or isn't active in the chat you can't kick them. So you end up with ( as we did a few times) 100 people in a chat and only 60 (or less) actually using it. The only way to drop the 40 and allow 40 new people in was to nuke the chat completely, create a new and manually invite the 100 'new' people. We had times were we had 80 people and one numptie invited a bunch of their non-clan mates and started throwing abuse around - couldn't do anything but nuke it all and start again. With communities if someone is a dick, ban them. someone isn't active, kick them. So much easier for the admin to manage and moderate (which should be some level of consideration, imo).

For the record - I pushed for Discord as our 'solution', but was voted down!

Kirby · 21-09-2017 4:49am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

For the record - I pushed for Discord as our 'solution', but was voted down!

Discord is excellent for PC based gaming but ultimately for a console based experience.....I can't see the point? It's just another piece of software that not everyone will get, further fracturing the community more.

I've read this entire thread and can tell there are people upset at being left out. I've felt that before so I can understand the stuff going on here. But the game is new and there are new people here to play with.

Honestly lads, between posts on Boards, Communities, the clan tab in-game and finally your friends list.......there is a ton of ways to get stuff going.

If you don't know some of the lads, just say hello. I knew nobody two weeks ago but have grouped, raided and done strikes/public events with loads of people that I feel I know fairly well now. I did this by messaging them or just straight up showing up in their party.

Yeah, it can be awkward at first but sure we are all Irish, fairly nerdy and playing the same game........so we have common ground right from the start.

If Im online, please message me if you don't have anyone else around you know and are tired of being solo. Or just join the group I'm chatting with. It can be as simple as that.

OptimusTractor · 21-09-2017 6:39am

Kirby wrote: »

I've read this entire thread and can tell there are people upset at being left out. I've felt that before so I can understand the stuff going on here. But the game is new and there are new people here to play with.

Anyone being left out is on a self imposed exile. Problems with notifications are widely known. So if you're are using the community for say a raid team. Is it too much to ask you to spend a couple of minutes refreshing the app and then sending out of few pms to your regulars. Or even scroll down the messages and see if anyone else asked for a raid team.

Anyway Events are the way to go.

SolvableKnave · 21-09-2017 9:32am

OptimusTractor wrote: »

Anyone being left out is on a self imposed exile. Problems with notifications are widely known. So if you're are using the community for say a raid team. Is it too much to ask you to spend a couple of minutes refreshing the app and then sending out of few pms to your regulars. Or even scroll down the messages and see if anyone else asked for a raid team.

Anyway Events are the way to go.

If only we could set up events in the mobile app.

Kimbot · 21-09-2017 9:37am

SolvableKnave wrote: »

If only we could set up events in the mobile app.

We can setup events in the app tho?

SolvableKnave · 21-09-2017 9:43am

jonnycivic wrote: »

We can setup events in the app tho?

Can we? Haven't found anywhere on the mobile version to set them up.

Kimbot · 21-09-2017 9:54am

SolvableKnave wrote: »

Can we? Haven't found anywhere on the mobile version to set them up.

When you open the main PS app there is an events tab (Looks like a little calender) and you can do it in there. Not sure if there is a community version of it tho.

SolvableKnave · 21-09-2017 10:13am

jonnycivic wrote: »

When you open the main PS app there is an events tab (Looks like a little calender) and you can do it in there. Not sure if there is a community version of it tho.

Yes, your right. Just tried it there, but can't create the event for a specific Community. Can only do it for Message Groups (RIP) or select individuals.

Mitch Connor · 21-09-2017 10:17am

SolvableKnave wrote: »

Yes, your right. Just tried it there, but can't create the event for a specific Community. Can only do it for Message Groups (RIP) or select individuals.

Its almost like sony have no idea what they are doing.

OptimusTractor · 21-09-2017 10:24am

I messaged PlayStation Ireland on Facebook. Long story short the reply was the customer care number/email.

SolvableKnave · 21-09-2017 10:26am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Its almost like sony have no idea what they are doing.

Agreed. They have good to great ideas, but poor to pi55 poor implementation of said ideas.

SolvableKnave · 21-09-2017 10:26am

OptimusTractor wrote: »

I messaged PlayStation Ireland on Facebook. Long story short the reply was the customer care number/email.

I twitter'd them, no response.

jcd5971 · 21-09-2017 11:04am

Rather than continue to snipe ( i still strongly dislike communities but that argument is over now so time to move on) I looked into a lot of topics on Sony forum last few days.

Apparently communities notifications got intentionally muted in 4.70 as before that people continued to get notifications even after leaving a community.

Lots of feedback and apparently a few efforts by Sony to fix but just none worked which is why they work the way they work now.

Out clan is just in an odd place

Two small for community and too big for messages.

Gonna keep looking for a workaround though

Edit
Stupid phone auto correct.

Kimbot · 21-09-2017 11:09am

SolvableKnave wrote: »

Yes, your right. Just tried it there, but can't create the event for a specific Community. Can only do it for Message Groups (RIP) or select individuals.

There was someone the other day that created an event for the community, not sure if they done it on the app or on the ps4 but maybe give them a shout and ask. Having no phone in work is a pain in the hole cos I cant look through any of it now

SolvableKnave · 21-09-2017 11:23am

jonnycivic wrote: »

There was someone the other day that created an event for the community, not sure if they done it on the app or on the ps4 but maybe give them a shout and ask. Having no phone in work is a pain in the hole cos I cant look through any of it now

It can be done from within the community on the console. Just not on the mobile app's.

Kimbot · 21-09-2017 11:25am

SolvableKnave wrote: »

It can be done from within the community on the console. Just not on the mobile app's.

Thats shocking bad. Whoever is over the whole communities thing in Sony should be fired or shot, whichever is handier :P

SeanHarty · 21-09-2017 11:31am

jonnycivic wrote: »

There was someone the other day that created an event for the community, not sure if they done it on the app or on the ps4 but maybe give them a shout and ask. Having no phone in work is a pain in the hole cos I cant look through any of it now

no phone in work...?

are you working in North Korea???

jcd5971 · 21-09-2017 11:33am

jonnycivic wrote:

Thats shocking bad. Whoever is over the whole communities thing in Sony should be fired or shot, whichever is handier

Why choose, fire him then shoot him.

jcd5971 · 21-09-2017 11:34am

SeanHarty wrote:

are you working in North Korea???

Long live Kim Jungny un-civic

SolvableKnave · 21-09-2017 11:40am

SeanHarty wrote: »

no phone in work...?

are you working in North Korea???

Jonny is a "Protectionist Civil Servant" for the North Korean Kim Dynasty. The Civic family have been closely linked to the Kim family for generations. Some suspect than the Civic Family are the true rulers of NK, but to utter such in public is a Fistable offence.

Kimbot · 21-09-2017 11:51am

SeanHarty wrote: »

no phone in work...?

are you working in North Korea???

If I bring a mobile into work its a 5 year stretch in the clink for me

SolvableKnave wrote: »

Jonny is a "Protectionist Civil Servant" for the North Korean Kim Dynasty. The Civic family have been closely linked to the Kim family for generations. Some suspect than the Civic Family are the true rulers of NK, but to utter such in public is a Fistable offence.

Shhhh i told you not to reveal that to anyone, your getting an extra fisting for that today :P

SolvableKnave · 21-09-2017 11:54am

jonnycivic wrote: »

Shhhh i told you not to reveal that to anyone, your getting an extra fisting for that today :P

Looking forward to it.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 06-10-2017 2:31pm

Clan suggestion:

Guys,
Clan 1 is 100% full - this means we are not allowed participate in and guided games activities (as guides).
If anyone else leaves, I suggest we leave the clans at 99 people - so we can still avail of the guided games function.

There seems to be a few people leaving and joining all the time, so next time an opening appears - can we guide them to the next available clan?

Generic Dreadhead · 06-10-2017 2:39pm

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Clan suggestion:

Guys,
Clan 1 is 100% full - this means we are not allowed participate in and guided games activities (as guides).
If anyone else leaves, I suggest we leave the clans at 99 people - so we can still avail of the guided games function.

There seems to be a few people leaving and joining all the time, so next time an opening appears - can we guide them to the next available clan?

My take on this, is that we should look after our own before we look after the rest of the world (more on this to come)

Feedback taken on board though :P

For now, I think it best we limit our Clan to 198 -> 200 members, otherwise it'll be a bloated mess and lack any sort of community spirit and becomes really painful to admin.
As the game gets quieter and the PC release comes out, we will perhaps see clan numbers drop again. Right now we're just at critical mass

hochspitch · 07-10-2017 10:45pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

jonnycivic wrote: »

Then plain and simple it is not a boards.ie clan because its made up of mostly non boards members. So again IMO it should not be associated with Boards.ie in any way. People may view that differently but to me if I was looking for a clan and I seen lets say "Destiny 2 Reddit Clan" I would expect it to be made up of Reddit Users mainly and I would sign up to reddit to chat etc to the rest of the members of the clan. Its common sense to expect it to be made up mainly of users from the website they are aligning themselves with.

This here seems like a conflict of our interests in our roles tbh.

Never once has the fact we had "Boards" in the Clan name been an issue while having non-boards users involved..... until all of a sudden it is now.

I too am getting a different tone from your posts on the subject this morning, Like Emmet said. Perhaps this is something that's been brewing for some of you for a while and now.

If you guys want transparency.....

If it's a choice between renaming Clan 2 (to remove the "Boards" word) or kicking Hochspitch from Clan 2 since he's not a Boards user... well... I'm going to rename the Clan. Doing the latter flies in the face of everything I've ever tried to do for the Clan and it's members. And tbh, morally, I'd never do something like.

And tbh, you are saying 100% of the Boards Clan members need to be on Boards... well if they are not, they get kicked so right? Hochspitch is not on Boards, known the guy 3 years, he ain't going nowhere.

We built this Clan around the people in it, not the "Boards.ie" banner per-se

Thanks for having my back Generic! Been a member since 2007 though I'm just a sneaky little fecker.

PetKing · 08-10-2017 11:19am

hochspitch wrote:

Thanks for having my back Generic! Been a member since 2007 though I'm just a sneaky little fecker.

Tis a good thing we took down all those Hoch pictures with targets over your face and the eyes cut out!

gimli2112 · 08-10-2017 3:15pm

SolvableKnave wrote: »

Looking forward to it.

wtf is this from? I wasn't to be sure I never watch it by mistake.

Generic Dreadhead · 08-10-2017 7:18pm

hochspitch wrote: »

Thanks for having my back Generic! Been a member since 2007 though I'm just a sneaky little fecker.

Eh, well I didn't know that tbh :P

Apocalypse · 09-10-2017 9:17am

Hi Lads

Any room in the clan ?

Power is around 245 , just started doing the Strikes and Nightfall's.

Thanks

SolvableKnave · 09-10-2017 10:03am

gimli2112 wrote: »

wtf is this from? I wasn't to be sure I never watch it by mistake.

Honestly have no idea. Just another giphy contribution.

Playstation Clan clean up/migrations/management

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