Clare GAA discussion thread

Figerty · 28-08-2017 11:12PM

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Bridge v cratloe
Ballyea v Newmarket
Clonlara v Tulla
Eire og v Clooney Quin

That first tie should be very good. Clonlara should come through tulla and the other two are even enough.

Bridge
Newmarket
Clonlara
Clooney Quin

Boots234 · 29-08-2017 08:16AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

The problem ocurrys have is . There were 4 teams left in the draw. Milltown and corofin in one pot and themselves and Eire og in the other

Because corofin had played Eire og earlier in the championship they can't meet again which only left one outcome and that's corofin v curry s Milltown v Eire og

Nobody at the time spotted the mistake until it was too late . The fixtures should be changed around .

The real joke here is the fixtures are down for the weekend . The complaints went in last Tuesday and its only been delt with now

Anything resolved with this last night?

Stationmaster · 29-08-2017 09:41AM

Draw stands as it was.

Bonniedog · 30-08-2017 11:36AM

I see Anthony has jacked in the Limerick job.

Any speculation on him taking over your boys? Some rumours that he might want to come back to Dublin.

danganabu · 30-08-2017 11:53AM

Bonniedog wrote: »

I see Anthony has jacked in the Limerick job.

Any speculation on him taking over your boys? Some rumours that he might want to come back to Dublin.

Clare are hardly going to dispense with the two boys after one year? Any management team needs at least two and imo three years to get a team playing their way. Clare had a very defined style before the boys took over and that can take quite a while to alter. I don't think they were helped by Ballyhea's extended run either in their first year.

Daly is a nice bloke and I have met him a few times, but he's a bit of a chancer to be fair, a reputation built on very little substance and I'm fcuked if I know, or anyone in Limerick that I have talked to, what exactly he was supposed to be doing in Limerick, the term money for old rope comes to mind.

windy shepard henderson · 30-08-2017 06:46PM

danganabu wrote: »

Clare are hardly going to dispense with the two boys after one year? Any management team needs at least two and imo three years to get a team playing their way. Clare had a very defined style before the boys took over and that can take quite a while to alter. I don't think they were helped by Ballyhea's extended run either in their first year.

Daly is a nice bloke and I have met him a few times, but he's a bit of a chancer to be fair, a reputation built on very little substance and I'm fcuked if I know, or anyone in Limerick that I have talked to, what exactly he was supposed to be doing in Limerick, the term money for old rope comes to mind.

agree with this dead sound guy but , to be fair limericks underage record in the last 4 or 5 years has been better hen most in the country , dont know why he was drafted in in the first place

if i was to guess i could see him get involved with his club clarecastle who are in a relegation playoff in two weeks time and are going backwards fast. daly was involved with there minors a couple of years back and won the minor championship as manager

dont think he will go back to dublin , he has said a number of times that he even struggled to get a balanced set of results with them or consistency on a year to year basis

windy shepard henderson · 30-08-2017 06:53PM

Boots234 wrote: »

Anything resolved with this last night?

long and short of the situation is , no change to the draw ,

they shot themselves in the foot a little i am led to believe by waiting too long to lodge an appeal , also i dont believe they had anyone form the club there that night at the initial draw

the same occurrence happened in the hurling draw this week as sixmilebridge were drawn out against ballyea ( both teams met in the second round ) the two teams were put back into the hat and redrawn

i am not 100% sure i think they left the appeal too long or something like that

Tell me how · 30-08-2017 06:54PM

windy shepard henderson wrote:

dont think he will go back to dublin , he has said a number of times that he even struggled to get a balanced set of results with them or consistency on a year to year basis

I was only saying it to my auld fella at the weekend. If Dublin concentrated their efforts on the hurlers, they'd do the All-Ireland double (hurling and football) within 5 years.

Maybe timescale is off but they're certainly capable.

windy shepard henderson · 30-08-2017 07:06PM

Figerty wrote: »

Bridge
Newmarket
Clonlara
Clooney Quin

agree with this , the one game that surpass the cratloe v bridge game is the townies v clooney/quinn , clooney are flying at the moment and peter duggen is on fire for them , eire og did have an impressive win over whitegate but are up against a far more confidant unit this time around

the blues are starting to click again and the injuries are starting to mount for ballyea , clonlara will be too strong for tulla , and going by what i saw in the park the night cratloe and the bridge were part of a double header sixmilebridge looked out and out favorites for the championship on there win over ballyea

windy shepard henderson · 30-08-2017 07:07PM

Tell me how wrote: »

I was only saying it to my auld fella at the weekend. If Dublin concentrated their efforts on the hurlers, they'd do the All-Ireland double (hurling and football) within 5 years.

Maybe timescale is off but they're certainly capable.

the cuala manager should get the job in my opinion , if they had stability in the camp there is no reason they cant win one , they have the makings of a serious team

LuckyGent88 · 30-08-2017 07:14PM

One of the clarecastle lads a team work said Dalo has been drafted back to save them from relegation.
I think they need more than dalo's return to save them.

Figerty · 31-08-2017 08:53AM

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

One of the clarecastle lads a team work said Dalo has been drafted back to save them from relegation.
I think they need more than dalo's return to save them.

Maybe he will tog out,, and ring the Sparrow...

Stationmaster · 31-08-2017 09:19AM

Figerty wrote: »

Maybe he will tog out,, and ring the Sparrow...

They'll need them all going by their performances to date this year.

danganabu · 31-08-2017 11:23AM

Tell me how wrote: »

I was only saying it to my auld fella at the weekend. If Dublin concentrated their efforts on the hurlers, they'd do the All-Ireland double (hurling and football) within 5 years.

Maybe timescale is off but they're certainly capable.

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

the cuala manager should get the job in my opinion , if they had stability in the camp there is no reason they cant win one , they have the makings of a serious team

I don't think they will ever win an AI in hurling to be honest, for the same reason that Tipp will never win a senior football AI, simple fact is that the first choice of any player in Dublin will be football and in affect what you have on the hurling panel are lads that weren't good enough to play football for Dublin, same problem in Tipp only vice versa (thankfully).

There is a glass ceiling there that they wont break through as long as that mentality remains and obviously football will always be number one, hurling an after thought - Conal Keaney a perfect example.

Sweet Science · 31-08-2017 11:26AM

danganabu wrote: »

I don't think they will ever win an AI in hurling to be honest, for the same reason that Tipp will never win a senior football AI, simple fact is that the first choice of any player in Dublin will be football and in affect what you have on the hurling panel are lads that weren't good enough to play football for Dublin, same problem in Tipp only vice versa (thankfully).

There is a glass ceiling there that they wont break through as long as that mentality remains and obviously football will always be number one, hurling an after thought - Conal Keaney a perfect example.

Tomas Brady , Dotsy , Jonny Cooper , Ciaran Kilkenny, Cormac Costello, Eric Lowndes, Emmet O'Conghaille, Conor McHugh, Diarmuid Connolly, Con O'Callaghan the list is endless

danganabu · 31-08-2017 11:36AM

Sweet Science wrote: »

Tomas Brady , Dotsy , Jonny Cooper , Ciaran Kilkenny, Cormac Costello, Eric Lowndes, Emmet O'Conghaille, Conor McHugh, Diarmuid Connolly, Con O'Callaghan the list is endless

I was simply listing the player who switched to hurling as an after thought!

And you left out the best hurler of the lot of them

Shane Ryan was one of the best centre backs I have seen in the last 20 years and would have walked onto any county team, and I mean any.

Tell me how · 31-08-2017 11:53AM

That's what I meant about Dublin concentrating their efforts on the hurling. If the county board made winning an AI in hurling a greater priority than it is and picked the right 5-8 guys in their early 20's and told them that the panel was going to be built around them for the next 5 yrs and that they'd get the same support as the footballers are getting, (background staff etc) with a view to getting that AI then I'd think they'd do it. Subject to maintaining commitment from both sides of course.

Agree with posters regarding Daly and Clarecastle. They've bigger problems than a motivational speech at this time of the year.

danganabu · 31-08-2017 12:00PM

Tell me how wrote: »

That's what I meant about Dublin concentrating their efforts on the hurling. If the county board made winning an AI in hurling a greater priority than it is and picked the right 5-8 guys in their early 20's and told them that the panel was going to be built around them for the next 5 yrs and that they'd get the same support as the footballers are getting, (background staff etc) with a view to getting that AI then I'd think they'd do it. Subject to maintaining commitment from both sides of course.

You can't just change history, mentality and tradition. Dublin will always be football first. Every county has a preference or at least parts of every county and no amount of money will ever change that.

When John Bailey was Chairman of Dublin there was lots and lots of money pumped into hurling, which ultimately didn't go down well as the footballers were struggling at the time, but even then the minor panels were littered with dual players and the only ones that ended up hurling were those not deemed good enough for the senior football team.

Sweet Science · 31-08-2017 12:41PM

danganabu wrote: »

I was simply listing the player who switched to hurling as an after thought!

And you left out the best hurler of the lot of them Shane Ryan was one of the best centre backs I have seen in the last 20 years and would have walked onto any county team, and I mean any.

Thats a bit of a hyperbole now

buck65 · 31-08-2017 12:48PM

I agree, Shane Ryan wouldn't make most county teams. Conal Keaney was class though. Remember Clare played the Dubs in Parnell park in 2002 he was the outstanding player on the pitch.

Sweet Science · 31-08-2017 12:51PM

buck65 wrote: »

I agree, Shane Ryan wouldn't make most county teams. Conal Keaney was class though. Remember Clare played the Dubs in Parnell park in 2002 he was the outstanding player on the pitch.

He was the best young hurler in the country at the time then jumped ship

danganabu · 31-08-2017 01:10PM

Sweet Science wrote: »

Thats a bit of a hyperbole now

I don't think it is to be honest, he was pure quality. I was involved with an inter-firms team and Shane was centre back both teams were littered with inter county stars and he stood out a mile - remember he was 31 when he returned to the hurlers and injury plagued and being played out of position.

Trust me if he had have focused soley on hurling for his career he would be a household name in hurling circles. His Dad won a senior AI in hurling as well.

danganabu · 31-08-2017 01:17PM

Sweet Science wrote: »

He was the best young hurler in the country at the time then jumped ship

Now who's exaggerating!

Keaney was a fine hurler but he's 34/35 now so you are saying he was better than Eoin Kelly, Lar Corbett, Seatnta O'Hailpin, Tommy Walsh, Jackie Tyrell etc . who are all in the same age bracket, in fact Eoin Kelly received YHOTY in both 2001 and 2002.

Sweet Science · 31-08-2017 01:50PM

danganabu wrote: »

Now who's exaggerating!

Keaney was a fine hurler but he's 34/35 now so you are saying he was better than Eoin Kelly, Lar Corbett, Seatnta O'Hailpin, Tommy Walsh, Jackie Tyrell etc . who are all in the same age bracket, in fact Eoin Kelly received YHOTY in both 2001 and 2002.

The joys of breaking into a top team . Obviously wouldnt of won them if he broke onto the Dublin team from that time

danganabu · 31-08-2017 01:56PM

Sweet Science wrote: »

The joys of breaking into a top team . Obviously wouldnt of won them if he broke onto the Dublin team from that time

He was that top team, and continued to be for another 10 years - are you really in all honestly telling me that Conal Keaney was a better young hurler than Eoin Kelly??

Sweet Science · 31-08-2017 02:07PM

danganabu wrote: »

He was that top team, and continued to be for another 10 years - are you really in all honestly telling me that Conal Keaney was a better young hurler than Eoin Kelly??

They won the AI in 2001 when he won young hurler of the year and made the breakthrough . How was he that team ?

danganabu · 31-08-2017 02:44PM

Sweet Science wrote: »

They won the AI in 2001 when he won young hurler of the year and made the breakthrough . How was he that team ?

It was an extremely ordinary team in the greater scheme of things. And he was and proved to be the standout player of that team and probably the last 40 years for Tipp.

Sweet Science · 31-08-2017 02:49PM

danganabu wrote: »

It was an extremely ordinary team in the greater scheme of things. And he was and proved to be the standout player of that team and probably the last 40 years for Tipp.

Then won an All Ireland . Compared to Dublin who couldnt beat Laois/Offaly/Wexford etc . Worlds apart . I'm not doubting Kelly by the way

danganabu · 31-08-2017 04:15PM

Sweet Science wrote: »

Then won an All Ireland . Compared to Dublin who couldnt beat Laois/Offaly/Wexford etc . Worlds apart . I'm not doubting Kelly by the way

You are though, you said that Conal Keaney was a better hurler than him in 2002!

Sweet Science · 01-09-2017 02:14PM

danganabu wrote: »

You are though, you said that Conal Keaney was a better hurler than him in 2002!

Different hurlers hard to compare . Keaney was playing teams on his own at 18/19/20 . Kelly was on AI winning teams

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