Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

Hmmmm? I lost you there. Please explain your theory a bit more....

Apologies if I'm wrong, the video didn't play so I scrolled through it frame by frame and I thought he was cycling against the traffic....that's a rear facing camera isn't it?

My bad, apologies to all!

Chiparus wrote: »

Yes , Fly 6 camera/rear light combo.

The other issue is that if I was a pedestrian, i should walk on the side of the road facing traffic.

As I said there was a female cyclist hit at that bend last year, the driver did not stop.

That was my bad about the wrong side of the road, sorry about that!

Heading along St Stephens green onto cuff St, taxi in front of me decided to pull into the parking bay outside the hotel to pick up a fare. . 4 girls . Never bothered to indicate.

Had to pull the breaks to avoid hitting me. One of the girls yelped. Went around to the driver side and knocked on the window which he rolled down.

Said he didn't see me.........advised if he had used his wing mirrors he would had.

Idiot asked me where was I.......pointed to the girls waiting to get in as said.....ask them......cycled off.

Awaiting on dispatch of a Hero4 Session at the minute, was impressed by Peppers footage. Time to become a regular customer of Garda Information Services.

iwillhtfu wrote: »

Where did you pick one up. Any deals going at the minute?

Got one sub ?100 that was cosmetically poor but fully functional on ebay, sans accessories. ?3 for a housing. Already have a bar mount.

iwillhtfu wrote: »

Where did you pick one up. Any deals going at the minute?

Halfords was where I got mine - the cheapest I could find...

http://www.halfords.ie/cycling/cycling-technology/helmet-cameras/gopro-hero-session-camera

LpPepper wrote: »

Mercian Pro wrote: »

Taking the lane on a winding country road is suicidal IMHO. Whatever chance the driver has in avoiding a bike near the edge of the road, he is quite likely to plow into the cyclist if he/she doesn't react in time and slow down. Of course slowing down is what the driver should do but positioning yourself to prevent them passing is highly dangerous.

Often on narrow winding/twisty country roads being positioned further out or close to the centre of the lane gives any approaching drivers a chance to see you sooner if coming around a bend. If you're tucked right into or close to the verge they will see you much later than if you stay further out...

In generalized would agree, but if you look at my recent video, ifi was away from the kerb , I would not be posting today.
The driver with the loaded Nivarawould not have been able to stop

LpPepper wrote: »

Often on narrow winding/twisty country roads being positioned further out or close to the centre of the lane gives any approaching drivers a chance to see you sooner if coming around a bend. If you're tucked right into or close to the verge they will see you much later than if you stay further out...

Can't agree fully with this theory and it could make you more exposed to impact. I will explain. On-coming traffic approaching a moderate to sharp bend that sweeps to their right will see you sooner in the apex if you are out from the verge. The further out you are the sooner they see you. On a bend that sweeps to their left, it's the opposite, they will see you later in the apex if you are out from the verge.

If like me, you regularally see motorists cutting bends or just drifting over the far side of the road (much too common) because they are going too fast or are just crap or stupid drivers, why would you wish to roll the dice on who you will meet when you decide to take the lane? If you meet a vehicle coming around the bend and over the centre line..it could be the last decision you ever make (on a bike or off it).....

LpPepper wrote: »

Often on narrow winding/twisty country roads being positioned further out or close to the centre of the lane gives any approaching drivers a chance to see you sooner if coming around a bend. If you're tucked right into or close to the verge they will see you much later than if you stay further out...

Totally agree, about taking the lane at blind corners when "in the countryside" with hedges and stuff. But once around the corner, pull back in. Hopefully the car behind has seen you, and if another one is coming the other way, well you have played the odds as best you can.

I'm all for the vehicle behind me, seeing me.

ala here, here and here

degsie wrote: »

People driving those roads should always expect dogs, cattle, tractors, pedestrians, cyclists etc to be just around the next bend. I've come across people with pushchairs on this type of road!

Yes they should, then I think back to my seventeen year old self.

We really need a lot more signage on our roads. Be prepared for Deer? Grand!
I'd prefer signs for walkers rather than people cycling though. Or maybe a "Pram walker" Emotive "genderless", baby stuff. (I'm with the times tbh)

Danger and Black Spots seem to have disappeared. Actually I think "Prepare to merge" signs have even disappeared now, and we really, really need them back.

Unknown Soldier wrote: »

Yes they should, then I think back to my seventeen year old self.

We really need a lot more signage on our roads. Be prepared for Deer? Grand!
I'd prefer signs for walkers rather than people cycling though. Or maybe a "Pram walker" Emotive "genderless", baby stuff. (I'm with the times tbh)

Danger and Black Spots seem to have disappeared. Actually I think "Prepare to merge" signs have even disappeared now, and we really, really need them back.

cjt156 wrote: »

Maybe every few Kms we need a sign that just says 'COP ON'

They won't see signs if their head is in their phone. They won't notice signs if they are crap drivers. We need enforcement, not signs.

Speed limits are an issue on many roads. Its not appropriate to have a narrow twisty road at 80kph or even 100kph when large parts of the M50 are 100kph! Added to that is many motorists see the speed limit as a target speed even where it's not appropriate to drive that fast.

CramCycle wrote: »

Am I the only one who sees the issue with the reasons for staying close to the ditch and segregated infrastructure. People are using the roads with no care or regard for others, ignoring the basic tenants of good driving. Able to stop in the space you see to be clear, giving space to other road users, giving your self good time to get where you are going. Instead of trying to change culture and hammer in enforcement, we are looking at making allowances for people who should not be allowed on the roads in a vehicle capable of such damage.

I agree with you. We are always being asked to allow for others who are less courteous / civil / careful / law abiding while driving but why not hammer this category? The roads will be safer for all if they would.

ED E wrote: »

All starts with our licensing process. Would you let a pilot sit a paper exam then fly you to New York? No? Then why let somebody pass a theory test then drive on public streets.

The fact that I could meet a driver who's failed the practical test 10, 20 times legitimately on the road is a scary one.

Or a cyclist who has no idea of the rules of the road either and possibly failed their car theory test more than once. Why would you allow them jump on a bike and use some of our countries main roads? I know I don't allow my kids out on the road alone as they don't appreciate the dangers of traffic or know the ROTR either for that matter. Cyclists are far from faultless and this shouldn't be overlooked either.

ED E wrote: »

Also not ideal, but a bike has not been known to hit a schoolbus and kill a rake of kids so not really comparable.

I knew you'd come back with that arguement and I ****in hate that answer everytime I hear it and to even bring a bus and kids into makes it more farcical. Have you ever heard of such an accident involving a cyclist and car occurring? I swear it needs to be written out of any safe cycling campaign.

Yes a cyclist wont do that but a motorist swerving to avoid a cyclist that has ran a red light or pulled out blindly from a junction could easily cause a fatal accident.

Much the same as a cyclist running a red light or cycling on a footpath or just generally acting the arse could hit someone resulting in serious injury also.