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Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,525 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    muppetshow wrote: »
    We are still waiting for the day goverments in Europe will do something about the problem,is that Nazi too?Or should we just go ahead as usual and pretend nothing happened?


    european governments are doing what they can, but they are unlikely to "do something about it" in the way you would like.
    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Poor kids. Jewish people get little sympathy on here and in general though. Not many people seem to care that they feel under severe threat and are leaving Europe in record numbers.

    really? i think you will find plenty on here will condemn any bigotry and discrimination toards jews. that fact doesn't fit your agenda though.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭.........


    muppetshow wrote: »
    A muslim jihadist who thinks he gets his virgins in paradise.

    That doesn't answer the question, what is hard man about it as the poster claimed ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I was only making a point to a post which suggested we all change our lives for fear of being blown up at a concert.

    I won't stop going to them, because the chances of me dying at a concert in a terrorist attack is practically nil.

    I think 22 families may have a different view on this "practically nil" idea. But yeah theres nothing to worry about at all. Everything is fine. We shouldn't dare change a thing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    NIMAN wrote: »
    KKkitty wrote: »
    What can be done to eradicate terrorism for good? For anything that will have a big gathering would people honestly not go for fear that a terrorist attack could take place?

    You have as much chance of winning the euromillions as being killed by a terrorist.

    People will of course not take this on board on nights like this. But it's true.

    There is no reason to alter your life in any way.
    Terrorists seem to be lessening the odds weekly, whereas the lotto are adding numbers...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 56 ✭✭muppetshow


    ......... wrote: »
    They turn to whatever is convenient, the last bombing in Manchester had nothing to do with Islam.

    According to the terrorist himself it does.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/this-only-beginning-sick-video-10480115


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    ......... wrote: »
    They turn to whatever is convenient, the last bombing in Manchester had nothing to do with Islam.

    Your sure of that Yeh?
    Very little information about him only his disregard for moderate Islam posted a few pages back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Gamebred wrote: »

    Does 22 have any significance in Islam?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭.........


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I think 22 families may have a different view on this "practically nil" idea. But yeah theres nothing to worry about at all. Everything is fine. We shouldn't dare change a thing.

    This is exactly the type of wobbly knee hysteria that terrorists love.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 56 ✭✭muppetshow




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    JPCN1 wrote: »
    You neglected appeasement.. Or are we there already?

    Appeasement will lead to takeover.

    If things remain calmish, then thanks to birth rates as they stand, Muslims will increase as a percentage of the population.

    This will lead to them eventually due to the numbers starting their own political parties and running as candidates.

    They will be supported by the left wing parties like Labour/AAA etc and will possibly go into government with them, both to get into power and keep the more right wing parties out.

    Result being that your country gets islamified.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭.........


    muppetshow wrote: »

    The last bombing in Manchester was in 1996, and it wasn't Islamists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    neverever1 wrote: »
    People are sick of me going on about the same thing so we'll have agree to disagree.

    You promised. Then you reneged. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    ......... wrote: »
    The last bombing in Manchester was in 1996, and it wasn't Islamists.

    No it wasn't it was last night and it was Islamist.
    Put your head back in the sand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I think 22 families may have a different view on this "practically nil" idea. But yeah theres nothing to worry about at all. Everything is fine. We shouldn't dare change a thing.

    Have you ever had anyone belonging to you be the victim of a terrorist attack? I'll tell you one thing, nothing supercedes the hate you hold for the cowardly murdering cnut that commits the act, but you still have more than a wee bit of contempt for the wanker that uses your loss to further their own ends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    ......... wrote: »
    This is exactly the type of wobbly knee hysteria that terrorists love.

    What do you suggest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    1999 Poll in the Republic of Ireland:

    https://www.abdn.ac.uk/staffpages/uploads/soc207/polviolence.pdf

    45.2% of people surveyed had "sympathy for the IRA".

    How many of those 45.2% were involved in terrorism? Probably none of those surveyed.

    There's a bloody massive difference between having some ideological support/sympathy for a cause and in actually getting involved in violence and terrorism.

    Your point is nonsense. So what if people here had sympathy for the ideological struggle of a United Ireland or if ordinary Muslims have sympathy for a struggle against the West?

    You're presenting the idea that ordinary people in the Republic of Ireland were the problem for sympathising with the struggles of the IRA and that ordinary Muslims are the problem for sympathising with Jihadi struggles.

    Complete waffle.

    You're acting as if public support has no influence on the actions of the groups when it couldn't be further from the truth. The number of members of the KKK and terror attacks they committed reduced further and further as the white americans became less racist as a whole, as white americans came to be tolerant now the KKK is seen as an outcast terror group, feared maybe but their views are not taken seriously by anybody
    Public support can indirectly have huge impact on a terror groups power


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 56 ✭✭muppetshow


    ......... wrote: »
    The last bombing in Manchester was in 1996, and it wasn't Islamists.

    No,but thats a loong time ago,and have there been any since from the same terrorists in 1996?No,thought so.
    Here is the list of the people you are defending.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭SkepticQuark


    muppetshow wrote: »

    "This video appeared on social media and the Mirror can not verify the source of the authenticity."

    Read the article... No point saying "terrorist himself" when we don't even know who it is in the video or when it was made.

    And no before you start off, I'm not defending the guy in the video but to make a claim that it's the terrorist when it's unverified isn't worth it. No doubt the terrorist was a fundamentalist but let's not start making claims we don't have 100% facts to support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Have you ever had anyone belonging to you be the victim of a terrorist attack? I'll tell you one thing, nothing supercedes the hate you hold for the cowardly murdering cnut that commits the act, but you still have more than a wee bit of contempt for the wanker that uses your loss to further their own ends.

    What are my "own ends" I simply want the creatures dealt with before the kill anymore innocent people. Others are very loud in how nothing must be done. Doing nothing furthers all of our ends if we are near the next explosion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Mod- .......... do not post in this thread again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Does 22 have any significance in Islam?

    22 families in mourning. :( On the 22nd. If you add those numbers together you get 8 which is the letter H, which corresponds with the 3rd letter in the word Jihad and the third letter in the name of the prophet. And a very lucky number in Chinese superstition.

    Which pretty much proves what a load of old b0llox numerology is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Sickening. To deliberately target children and teenagers. The youngest victim was just 8 years of age.

    Sure they're willing to sacrifice their own children... blowing up children in the west was never going to be above them.





    I think these people (Islamic terrorists) have cottoned on that young anything involving children gets them more attention than were they to kill adults. Look at Boko Haram and how the west lost their shit when young girls were kidnapped. They got more coverage in the western media than had they killed ten times as many adults. They're not ISIS, obviously, but Islamic extremists nonetheless and what they did, even had Michelle Obama responding and hashtaging. Last night's bombing I see as a deliberate attempt to attack the children in the west and sadly we are like to see more of it (hopefully I'm wrong).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 56 ✭✭muppetshow


    roddy15 wrote: »
    "This video appeared on social media and the Mirror can not verify the source of the authenticity."

    Read the article... No point saying "terrorist himself" when we don't even know who it is in the video or when it was made.

    He doesnt seem like your friendly neighbour though.
    And this was actually posted 4 hours before the attack took place,believe it or not,and with a poster saying 22.05.17,coincidence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Beyondgone wrote: »
    22 families in mourning. :( On the 22nd. If you add those numbers together you get 8 which is the letter H, which corresponds with the 3rd letter in the word Jihad and the third letter in the name of the prophet. And a very lucky number in Chinese superstition.

    Which pretty much proves what a load of old b0llox numerology is.

    Well yes numerology is crap but I just wondered did Muhummad get his favourite wife on the 22nd day or have 22 wives or anything like that it appeared there was some sort of fetish for the 22nd. Could just be coincidence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Biggest lickspittle on boardz


    european governments are doing what they can, but they are unlikely to "do something about it" in the way you would like.



    really? i think you will find plenty on here will condemn any bigotry and discrimination toards jews. that fact doesn't fit your agenda though.


    I'm not so sure about that. For example, the UK Labour party have been experiencing a major problem with anti-Semitism recently, and there was a very noticeable silence from most people here. This is a party that is one election away from holding power. But once again, they are lefties so they get the free pass as always.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/02/labour-party-linked-increase-anti-semitic-incidents-according/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-anti-semitism-harry-fletcher-sunday-times-op-ed-a7697456.html

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37656197


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭DERICKOO


    Why don't we just tell them we will send them back to there original country and just, open the door''.the plane i mean.
    Send there family extended family back to there country if they are convicted.
    There are just no words, time to change the rules. there is no other way to survive in the future if we value democracy.
    I as an individual can do little.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 869 ✭✭✭mikeybrennan


    They don't need trained bomb makers in the UK

    The bomb makers can instruct over the internet easily


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Sure they're willing to sacrifice their own children... blowing up children in the west was never going to be above them.





    I think these people (Islamic terrorists) have cottoned on that young anything involving children gets them more attention than were they to kill adults. Look at Boko Haram and how the west lost their shit when young girls were kidnapped. They got more coverage in the western media than had they killed ten times as many adults. They're not ISIS, obviously, but Islamic extremists nonetheless and what they did, even had Michelle Obama responding and hashtaging. Last night's bombing I see as a deliberate attempt to attack the children in the west.

    What's next nail bomb in a maternity ward?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭SkepticQuark


    muppetshow wrote: »
    He doesnt seem like your friendly neighbour though.
    And this was actually posted 4 hours before the attack took place,believe it or not,and with a poster saying 22.05.17,coincidence?

    Can I actually see that because I can't find that claim anywhere? Call me sceptical but I don't really want to randomly believe stuff.


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