Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

Gamebred

Considering the size of the explosion Im guessing this wasnt a headcase copying a formula online, he had expert training in bomb making.

KKkitty

What can be done to eradicate terrorism for good? For anything that will have a big gathering would people honestly not go for fear that a terrorist attack could take place?

Elmer Blooker

I'll give it a day or two more before the media gets back to its usual Syria/Assad, Iran, N.Korea and Putin bashing and how they are a "threat", "aggression" etc.
None of these are responsible, have backed or supported a single terrorist outrage in Europe but having said that it seems Trump enjoyed his visit to Saudi Arabia. As long as us Europeans have friends like America who needs enemies?

Billy86

Gamebred wrote: »

Considering the size of the explosion Im guessing this wasnt a headcase copying a formula online, he had expert training in bomb making.

Could well be the case - Westminster was clearly a case of a deranged loon, lone wolf type, but this guy at the very least did an awful lot of meticulous research (and very well could have had more experienced input from others as he was only 22) you would have to think from how big the blast was.

pumpkin4life

muppetshow wrote: »

We are still waiting for the day goverments in Europe will do something about the problem,is that Nazi too?Or should we just go ahead as usual and pretend nothing happened?

Don't trust them, they're part of the problem.

Three outcomes:

Deportations
Takeover
Civil War

The West will have to make some very big choices in the next few years and none of them will be pretty.

Persephone kindness

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

At least we know who the real victim is so.

That is not what I am saying. I am explaining. I am explaining in the hope that we can understand.

Of course the victims are those in the blast.

Allah snackbar

Gamebred wrote: »

Considering the size of the explosion Im guessing this wasnt a headcase copying a formula online, he had expert training in bomb making.

Maybe not him but someone else , a suicide bomber can only kill a limited number of people , an experienced bomb maker can kill multiples , as long as he has enough nutters to pull the cord while shouting Mohammed is great

Exeggcute

muppetshow wrote: »

I think this was the plan for the bigger future.
Bin ladens 7 step plan.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/the-future-of-terrorism-what-al-qaida-really-wants-a-369448.html

Published in 2005 but pretty much accurately lays out the rise of ISIS and where we are today.

Chilling

The Backwards Man

Gamebred wrote: »

Considering the size of the explosion Im guessing this wasnt a headcase copying a formula online, he had expert training in bomb making.

Na, ISIS bombmakers are like hen's teeth in the west, highly unlikely they'd waste an asset like that unless he was working on his own, they'd be setting off bombs in Europe every day of the week if they had the means.

It's a bit like the yahoos posting here about what they would do and what should be done, ISIS have plenty of followers on and plenty of rich asshole to throw them a rake of dollars, but headers to make the bombs and eejits to wear them, not so much.

NIMAN

KKkitty wrote: »

What can be done to eradicate terrorism for good? For anything that will have a big gathering would people honestly not go for fear that a terrorist attack could take place?

You have as much chance of winning the euromillions as being killed by a terrorist.

People will of course not take this on board on nights like this. But it's true.

There is no reason to alter your life in any way.

muppetshow

Exeggcute wrote: »

Published in 2005 but pretty much accurately lays out the rise of ISIS and where we are today.

Chilling

I think there could be more behind this than we know,and its not going to be a better future for Europe for sure.

muppetshow

Billy86 wrote: »

I've lived in a multiple different countries and got to know people from all over the world, of different faiths, beliefs and cultures thank you very much. Sadly you're just digging and digging here, making assumptions in and effort to get away from the fact you're a using of a pedophilia advocate to try and claim some moral high ground and "score points" with.

So i guess you speak 7 languages too then?
Try and work as captain of a merchant vessel,and see how how friendly the world is.
Are you done now?

pjohnson

NIMAN wrote: »

You have as much chance of winning the euromillions as being killed by a terrorist.

People will of course not take this on board on nights like this. But it's true.

There is no reason to alter your life in any way.

So would you demand Grande continue her tour based on statistics? Its a great skill to turn murder into numbers and dismiss it as a peanut allergy/euromillions win.

neonsofa

NIMAN wrote: »

You have as much chance of winning the euromillions as being killed by a terrorist.

People will of course not take this on board on nights like this. But it's true.

There is no reason to alter your life in any way.

And thousands of people buy a euro millions ticket every week hoping that they will be the one to win, cause it's still a chance no matter how slim.

The threat level has now been raised to critical which means another attack is imminent.

I'm supposed to be going to Manchester this weekend, feeling a bit worried now.

JPCN1

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

I'll give it a day or two more before the media gets back to its usual Syria/Assad, Iran, N.Korea and Putin bashing and how they are a "threat", "aggression" etc.
None of these are responsible, have backed or supported a single terrorist outrage in Europe but having said that it seems Trump enjoyed his visit to Saudi Arabia. As long as us Europeans have friends like America who needs enemies?

Visit some of the WW1 or WW2 American graveyards in Europe and reconsider your comment please.

JupiterKid

Sickening. To deliberately target children and teenagers. The youngest victim was just 8 years of age.

The roots of this disease are clear for all to see but many just want to bury their heads in the sand.

Beyondgone

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

It suggests that there is a trained bomb-maker now in the UK, and the likelihood of further attacks is very high. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I hope the UK intelligence services catch a lucky break and neutralise the threat early.

It isn't hard. The fools with the knives and the cars were just the precursors. The Hard men with the IEDs are next. They will test the resolve of the most staunch Liberal.

The Backwards Man

pjohnson wrote: »

So would you demand Grande continue her tour based on statistics? Its a great skill to turn murder into numbers and dismiss it as a peanut allergy/euromillions win.

Twisting someone's pragmatic approach to dealing with cowardly murdering scum to suit your own hate-filled agenda requires no skill at all however

njs030

Flying Fox wrote: »

The threat level has now been raised to critical which means another attack is imminent.

I'm supposed to be going to Manchester this weekend, feeling a bit worried now.

It's probably other areas of England that would be under threat now, the FA cup final is on this weekend, 2 london teams, crowded trains etc...

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JupiterKid wrote: »

Sickening. To deliberately target children and teenagers. The youngest victim was just 8 years of age.

The roots of this disease are clear for all to see but many just want to bury their heads in the sand.

If someone wants to go murdering and bombing, they usually find some "cause" as a reason to indulge their sick fantasies.

JPCN1

pumpkin4life wrote: »

muppetshow wrote: »

We are still waiting for the day goverments in Europe will do something about the problem,is that Nazi too?Or should we just go ahead as usual and pretend nothing happened?

Don't trust them, they're part of the problem.

Three outcomes:

Deportations
Takeover
Civil War

The West will have to make some very big choices in the next few years and none of them will be pretty.

You neglected appeasement.. Or are we there already?

The_Kew_Tour

To put the stupid idea of doing nothing to bed,
would be like saying we dont need Police Force as only small minority are criminals.

Its stupid.

NIMAN

pjohnson wrote: »

So would you demand Grande continue her tour based on statistics? Its a great skill to turn murder into numbers and dismiss it as a peanut allergy/euromillions win.

I was only making a point to a post which suggested we all change our lives for fear of being blown up at a concert.

I won't stop going to them, because the chances of me dying at a concert in a terrorist attack is practically nil.

muppetshow

JupiterKid wrote: »

Sickening. To deliberately target children and teenagers. The youngest victim was just 8 years of age.

The roots of this disease are clear for all to see but many just want to bury their heads in the sand.

Not for European politicians,the roots and not clear at all,only their pensions.

gitzy16v

......... wrote: »

If someone wants to go murdering and bombing, they usually find some "cause" as a reason to indulge their sick fantasies.

Yep...they keep turning to radical Islam.

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Beyondgone wrote: »

The Hard men with the IEDs are next. They will test the resolve of the most staunch Liberal.

What exactly is "hard man" about some pimply 20 year old blowing up women and kids or anyone with an IED ?

pjohnson

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Twisting someone's pragmatic approach to dealing with cowardly murdering scum to suit your own hate-filled agenda requires no skill at all however

"Hate-filled agenda" is it so bad to hate killers? I cant understand the backslapping and praise that ilk gets but so be it. Some people dont want the deaths to stop. They'll be the happy ones. Innocent people will keep dying as Muslims keep running wild so everyone wins

muppetshow

......... wrote: »

What exactly is "hard man" about some pimply 20 year old blowing up women and kids or anyone with an IED ?

A muslim jihadist who thinks he gets his virgins in paradise.

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gitzy16v wrote: »

Yep...they keep turning to radical Islam.

They turn to whatever is convenient, the last bombing in Manchester had nothing to do with Islam.