Eir rural FTTH thread

robwen · 08-05-2017 10:48AM

Are Pure Telecom definitely reselling FTTH, they told me on their online chat that my line doesnt qualify only for 4mb broadband even tho our area has been FFTH enabled and Eir have told me I do qualify and most the neighbours have got it installed with Eir already, currently in contract with Pure Telecom so getting FTTH with them would be preferable

The Cush · 08-05-2017 12:12PM

robwen wrote: »

Are Pure Telecom definitely reselling FTTH, they told me on their online chat that my line doesnt qualify only for 4mb broadband even tho our area has been FFTH enabled and Eir have told me I do qualify and most the neighbours have got it installed with Eir already, currently in contract with Pure Telecom so getting FTTH with them would be preferable

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/pure-telecom-broadband-ireland-1gbps-open-eir

Is there anything preventing you moving to eir if they can provide you with FTTH if Pure Telecom can't?

robwen · 08-05-2017 12:51PM

The Cush wrote: »

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/pure-telecom-broadband-ireland-1gbps-open-eir

Is there anything preventing you moving to eir if they can provide you with FTTH if Pure Telecom can't?

Signed an 18 month contract with them last September but they said at time as soon as area became fibre enabled I would be upgraded for free, will have to make some phone calls

pegasus1 · 08-05-2017 03:39PM

robwen wrote: »

Signed an 18 month contract with them last September but they said at time as soon as area became fibre enabled I would be upgraded for free, will have to make some phone calls

Wrong fibre..they are talking about Fibre to the cabinet..FTTC up to 100Mb d/l...What is Wired outside from what you said is Fibre to the home..FTTH..up to 1Gb d/l.

T-Bird · 08-05-2017 04:09PM

Signed up over the weekend with eir, have to wait until next Monday before I am on the system and only then can an appointment be made..... GGGGRRrrr

robwen · 08-05-2017 04:42PM

pegasus1 wrote: »

Wrong fibre..they are talking about Fibre to the cabinet..FTTC up to 100Mb d/l...What is Wired outside from what you said is Fibre to the home..FTTH..up to 1Gb d/l.

They are talking about FTTH, after talking to someone on phone they say my eircode is passing but my phone number is failing, they say they'll investigate more & phone me back

knipex · 08-05-2017 04:47PM

robwen wrote: »

They are talking about FTTH, after talking to someone on phone they say my eircode is passing but my phone number is failing, they say they'll investigate more & phone me back

Phone number is irrelevant as they install a new line..a fibre line not copper

Peppa Cig · 08-05-2017 05:17PM

T-Bird wrote: »

Signed up over the weekend with eir, have to wait until next Monday before I am on the system and only then can an appointment be made..... GGGGRRrrr

Wait 48hrs after order (for it to appear on open eir system) then ring install appointments (open eir) 01 5366550 and see if they can schedule earlier.

I was down for install on 12th. Rang this morning and now due tomorrow morning.

Credit on this to long_b for the post with this number somewhere above #star

iioklo · 08-05-2017 06:28PM

damienirel wrote: »

The Castletroy exchange isn't due to go live 'till winter 2018 for ftth - according to the map. It seems a bit mad when there is a high density of houses in that exchange area - you'd imagine it would be one of the areas they would tackle first.

There not doing high density housing near the exchanges as they can get VDSL from exchange or cabinet, this is a mainly rural rollout. They are doing the roads leading out of the town/village.

I'm living in village centre in an area that just went live and cant get FTTH, the first house to get FTTH on the road out of town is closer to the exchange than I am.

Think the map has been updated showing Carrigart exchange with 370 premises able to get FTTH 1000Mb/s.

T-Bird · 08-05-2017 07:01PM

Peppa Cig wrote: »

Wait 48hrs after order (for it to appear on open eir system) then ring install appointments (open eir) 01 5366550 and see if they can schedule earlier.

I was down for install on 12th. Rang this morning and now due tomorrow morning.

Credit on this to long_b for the post with this number somewhere above #star

Thanks, I waited about 3 hours before I rang and then today.

Yeah is probably too much anticipation but I thought that I would at least be on their system so I could register. I've never experienced such a delay before.

KeRbDoG · 08-05-2017 07:50PM

Just saw a KN Group van and crew working with a manhole open and a spool of black cable near the end of my road and near one of their cabs. They use underground duct to connect from it to the end of my road and then go overhead so fingers crossed its FTTH related

time will tell

Update:
Took a wander to see what they had been working at as I only passed by earlier in the car.
Looks like either cable got pulled or subduct, most prob just subduct. Some poles on my road marked. The main point which the copper cable comes from the underground section to overhead to feed the road is marked with an 'L'. I think come other poles might be marked with a C or a E, couldn't get a good look. Is there a decoding list for those markings?

Near the old cab/FTTC location, a manhole is marked with RIB 05?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 08-05-2017 08:35PM

As iioklo siad the map was updated earlier today. It was something of a disappointment with only three areas given due dates, all the 31st of May:

Donegal | Fintown
Mayo | Murrisk
Wexford | Fethard On Sea

The spreadsheet has been updated with the revised numbers. As of today the total (excluding urban-rural) is: 34620 (32.56%).

KOR101 · 08-05-2017 09:06PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

As iioklo siad the map was updated earlier today. It was something of a disappointment with only three areas given due dates, all the 31st of May:

Donegal | Fintown
Mayo | Murrisk
Wexford | Fethard On SeaThe spreadsheet has been updated with the revised numbers. As of today the total (excluding urban-rural) is: 34620 (32.56%).

Thanks as usual.

A 12,000 increase since 6th April (your last update) is quite good.

Would it be a good idea to keep track of the numbers by date, so we can clearly see the rate of increase per week/month?

plodder · 08-05-2017 09:10PM

Oldtown and Ballyboughal in North county Dublin have been moved from Spring/Summer to Summer/Autumn 2017. Not a good sign. Moved from one 6 month window to another one three months further out. What you want to see in a project like this is initially broad estimates, narrowing and getting more specific. You would have very little confidence in a shifting plan like this

ED E · 08-05-2017 09:19PM

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Just saw a KN Group van and crew working with a manhole open and a spool of black cable near the end of my road and near one of their cabs. They use underground duct to connect from it to the end of my road and then go overhead so fingers crossed its FTTH related time will tell

Update:
Took a wander to see what they had been working at as I only passed by earlier in the car.
Looks like either cable got pulled or subduct, most prob just subduct. Some poles on my road marked. The main point which the copper cable comes from the underground section to overhead to feed the road is marked with an 'L'. I think come other poles might be marked with a C or a E, couldn't get a good look. Is there a decoding list for those markings?

Near the old cab/FTTC location, a manhole is marked with RIB 05?

RIB 05 would be RIB exchange Cab 5 by normal convention, but theres no RIB exchange that I know of.

Are you on the R180 in Monaghan? Then it would be R180, Main Cable 5, Drop L.

KeRbDoG · 08-05-2017 09:24PM

ED E wrote: »

RIB 05 would be RIB exchange Cab 5 by normal convention, but theres no RIB exchange that I know of.

Are you on the R180 in Monaghan? Then it would be R180, Main Cable 5, Drop L.

Nop, off the R125 to the west of Swords.
What's a RIB exchange?

MoeJay · 08-05-2017 09:30PM

eir out this evening taking orders for installation for the Riverstown exchange. Expected install/live is mid-June according to the rep.

Bring it on!!!

ACLFC7 · 08-05-2017 09:33PM

MoeJay wrote: »

eir out this evening taking orders for installation for the Riverstown exchange. Expected install/live is mid-June according to the rep.

Bring it on!!!

The map says Riverstown is already live for 40 premises.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 08-05-2017 09:35PM

KOR101 wrote: »

Thanks as usual.

A 12,000 increase since 6th April (your last update) is quite good.

Would it be a good idea to keep track of the numbers by date, so we can clearly see the rate of increase per week/month?

12000 was good progress, however the fact that there are only three areas listed for the next month is worrying plus plodder stating that areas are being pushed back again.

I'll look into tracking by date.

Also the alternative map has been updated.

MoeJay · 08-05-2017 09:39PM

ACLFC7 wrote: »

The map says Riverstown is already live for 40 premises.

Yep for a planned total of 1030, so I can only presume it's going in stages. Who knows, it could move faster.....!

irishkopite 2011 · 08-05-2017 09:43PM

ED E wrote: »

RIB 05 would be RIB exchange Cab 5 by normal convention, but theres no RIB exchange that I know of.

Are you on the R180 in Monaghan? Then it would be R180, Main Cable 5, Drop L.

RIB 05 stands for ribbon 05. A ribbon is the area which is being served from an exchange for fibre, so this is the fifth area to be served for fibre from this particular exchange. A ribbon is also called a supercell.

The Cush · 08-05-2017 09:55PM

irishkopite 2011 wrote: »

RIB 05 stands for ribbon 05. A ribbon is the area which is being served from an exchange for fibre, so this is the fifth area to be served for fibre from this particular exchange. A ribbon is also called a supercell.

Hi irishkopite 2011

We were discussing how splitters might be allocated on the rollout on the previous pages, can you give us any insight into this?

rob808 · 08-05-2017 10:04PM

plodder wrote: »

Oldtown and Ballyboughal in North county Dublin have been moved from Spring/Summer to Summer/Autumn 2017. Not a good sign. Moved from one 6 month window to another one three months further out. What you want to see in a project like this is initially broad estimates, narrowing and getting more specific. You would have very little confidence in a shifting plan like this

There still both Spring/summer on the map not sure we're you got that info from.

Gonzo · 08-05-2017 10:05PM

Batterstown (near Dunshaughlin) seems to be live according to the map altho no number of premises listed. Was previously Spring/Summer 2017.

Robinstown (near Navan) seems to be also live. Was previously a dark green in development dot with Spring/Summer 2018. Also with no number of premises passed.

Could be mistakes in the update?

Bored Accountant · 08-05-2017 10:07PM

Bunratty, Co Clare has a go live date of May 10th - I assume for FTTC though.
Will they count towards the 300,000 if they are getting above the 30mbs?

rob808 · 08-05-2017 10:10PM

Bored Accountant wrote: »

Bunratty, Co Clare has a go live date of May 10th - I assume for FTTC though.
Will they count towards the 300,000 if they are getting above the 30mbs?

yea 5% of the 300,000 FTTC

plodder · 08-05-2017 10:27PM

rob808 wrote: »

There still both Spring/summer on the map not sure we're you got that info from.

You might need to refresh your browser.

rob808 · 08-05-2017 10:53PM

plodder wrote: »

You might need to refresh your browser.

yea your right sorry but make sense since we're in summer now that they change it to summer/ Autumn.I see Ratoath also summer/Autumn as well now.

damienirel · 08-05-2017 10:55PM

iioklo wrote: »

There not doing high density housing near the exchanges as they can get VDSL from exchange or cabinet, this is a mainly rural rollout. They are doing the roads leading out of the town/village.

I'm living in village centre in an area that just went live and cant get FTTH, the first house to get FTTH on the road out of town is closer to the exchange than I am.

Think the map has been updated showing Carrigart exchange with 370 premises able to get FTTH 1000Mb/s.

Yeah probably didn't make it clear in the earlier post as you wouldn't be familiar with the route. But the route I'm talking about is high density and the only reason it's on the FTTH map is because none of the houses on that route can avail of VDSL, and they are connected directly to this exchange.

I'm not talking about VDSL - that went live a couple of years ago on that exchange.

damienirel · 08-05-2017 11:03PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

12000 was good progress, however the fact that there are only three areas listed for the next month is worrying plus plodder stating that areas are being pushed back again.

I'll look into tracking by date.

Also the alternative map has been updated.

Annacotty Limerick pushed out from summer to autumn 2017.
Wonder can somebody get a list of the pushed outs easily?
Would be good to keep track of that per update.

Eir rural FTTH thread

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