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    #212
    Stars and Stripes
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    you do, it seems
    Ah just havin' a bit a' crack !! Bet your Charles and Diana wedding mugs and tacky collectibles of Mrs Windsor, Phil and their corgi's are pride of place in your council house sitting room in Portadown eh Fred ? :D


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    #213
    infogiver
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    I've posted a few times and as you can see from the post you quoted, it's his wife, the head of the British murdering forces, who has had impact on Irish people's lives. As I said, couldn't give a sh1t about this old fella.

    Me thinks you do protest too much.


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    #214
    neverever1
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    infogiver wrote: »
    Me thinks you do protest too much.

    :D I protested once!


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    #215
    Ferrari3600
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    I couldn't give a sh1t about this fella, if his wife drops dead I might have a celebratory drink. The only impact they've had on Irish people is that one of them was the commander in chief of the British armed forces who were still killing Irish people on our streets up to the very recent past.

    Go for a lie down, dear, you'll feel better in the morning.


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    #216
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    The Queen should do likewise. She deserves to enjoy her final years free from her royal obligations.

    It's time to let the 70 year old son ascend to the throne.


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    #217
    blinding
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    Its sort of like a Jobsbridge Job.....

    You can still sign on for Housing Benefit and Dole........

    It shouldn't be hard to get a replacement.....


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    #218
    neverever1
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    Ferrari3600 wrote: »
    Go for a lie down, dear, you'll feel better in the morning.

    Can't handle the truth?


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    #219
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The fantasy that there is a similarity between the work ordinary 'common' people do and the 'work' royals do is endlessly hilarious.
    Get a grip.


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    #220
    Fratton Fred
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    Stars and Stripes wrote: »
    Ah just havin' a bit a' crack !! Bet your Charles and Diana wedding mugs and tacky collectibles of Mrs Windsor, Phil and their corgi's are pride of place in your council house sitting room in Portadown eh Fred ? :D

    What's wrong with living in a council house?


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    #221
    infogiver
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The fantasy that there is a similarity between the work ordinary 'common' people do and the 'work' royals do is endlessly hilarious.
    Get a grip.

    A lot of people all over the world have a keen interest in the British Royal family.
    It's a kind of real life soap opera.
    There's extra interest because of the advanced age of the monarch and her husband.
    There's further interest in the grandchildren of a dead Princess who was the most famous person in the world at one stage.
    Your doing your nut over nothing.
    It's as if your fearful that everyone will forget some day that we are supposed to hate and despise our nearest neighbor and then who would we blame for all our bad luck?
    My daughter and her friends know nothing about this feud that your trying so hard to maintain.
    Theyre 20 and they've only ever known peace on this island and soon all the sabre rattlers will be dead and gone, and it can't come soon enough for me


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    #222
    blinding
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    What's wrong with living in a council house?
    Don't the Royals live in a sort of Council house.....

    The Public Pay for the Upkeep of their Multiple " Council Houses "......


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    #223
    Ferrari3600
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    Can't handle the truth?

    No, it's more that I find both sides in this 'debate' tiresome.

    I am in fact a republican, and have no particular regard for aristocracy. However, I can't help but admire Elizabeth Windsor's devotion to duty and Christian faith (the most important factor about her). Plus anyone who likes horse-racing can't be all bad and is unlikely to hate the Irish, given the disproportionate Paddy influence in racing circles.


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    FrancieBrady
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    infogiver wrote: »
    A lot of people all over the world have a keen interest in the British Royal family.
    It's a kind of real life soap opera.
    There's extra interest because of the advanced age of the monarch and her husband.
    There's further interest in the grandchildren of a dead Princess who was the most famous person in the world at one stage.
    Your doing your nut over nothing.
    It's as if your fearful that everyone will forget some day that we are supposed to hate and despise our nearest neighbor and then who would we blame for all our bad luck?
    My daughter and her friends know nothing about this feud that your trying so hard to maintain.
    Theyre 20 and they've only ever known peace on this island and soon all the sabre rattlers will be dead and gone, and it can't come soon enough for me

    The usual patronising guff from those who want to peacefully doff and fawn.
    I make no apologies for spoiling it on you. Depict that as 'obsession' or whatever you want.
    I say again, reasonably and calmly, the notion of 'royalty' is an abomination in this age. Like many other things.
    So stop having a hissy fit just because I voice my opinion on it...all royalty, anywhere.


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    #225
    neverever1
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    Ferrari3600 wrote: »
    No, it's more that I find both sides in this 'debate' tiresome.

    I am in fact a republican, and have no particular regard for aristocracy. However, I can't help but admire Elizabeth Windsor's devotion to duty and Christian faith (the most important factor about her). Plus anyone who likes horse-racing can't be all bad and is unlikely to hate the Irish, given the disproportionate Paddy influence in racing circles.

    What debate? Is she the chief of staff of the British armed forces? Did these forces murder Irish people on our streets?
    What exactly is wrong with my statement?


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    #226
    FrancieBrady
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    What debate? Is she the chief of staff of the British armed forces? Did these forces murder Irish people on our streets?
    What exactly is wrong with my statement?

    Don't you know how it works? You forget the history of the British but always remember selective bits of Irish history.


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    #227
    Fratton Fred
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    blinding wrote: »
    Don't the Royals live in a sort of Council house.....

    The Public Pay for the Upkeep of their Multiple " Council Houses "......

    Well, Balmoral is theirs, kind if their house "down the country".

    Buckingham Palace is the week day London apartment the company own and Windsor castle is the council house where they go for the weekend or when they have families visiting.


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    #228
    Beyondgone
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    The Royals are like Art - you have to have some nice stuff to look at. They keep a lot of nice stuff nice, parks, big houses, pomp, ceremony etc etc. Non-everyday stuff. Some people however just like rubbing their own sh1t on the walls and consider anything "nice" to be superfluous and worth ripping up.

    I'm no major Royalist, I'm just not motivated to hate them or begrudge them because I think they provide a bit of "nice".

    I heard the Philip lad go "I've done my bit, I want to have some fun now". I kinda think he did and he should.


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    #229
    Jawgap
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    What debate? Is she the chief of staff of the British armed forces? Did these forces murder Irish people on our streets?
    What exactly is wrong with my statement?

    No. The current Chief of the Defence Staff is ACM Sir Stuart Peach.

    Nor was she a commander-in-chief in the military sense, she, like our President, holds the de jure position of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

    Yes she is the sovereign, and yes officers hold the sovereign's commission.

    Yes, she is a Royal Colonel.......and if you want to be scathing about the Royal Colonels, if it was me, I'd go for Charlie-boy.....between his fondness for the Paras' uniform and his colonelcy of the Black Watch, he has an association with regiments who have an atrocious record on this island.

    No, despite all that she never exercised operational command, or even political control, over any of the UK's armed services.


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    #230
    FrancieBrady
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    Beyondgone wrote: »
    The Royals are like Art - you have to have some nice stuff to look at. They keep a lot of nice stuff nice, parks, big houses, pomp, ceremony etc etc. Non-everyday stuff. Some people however just like rubbing their own sh1t on the walls and consider anything "nice" to be superfluous and worth ripping up.

    I'm no major Royalist, I'm just not motivated to hate them or begrudge them because I think they provide a bit of "nice".

    I heard the Philip lad go "I've done my bit, I want to have some fun now". I kinda think he did and he should.

    Lots of things are 'nice'. Look at current issues, nuns kept hospitals nice, is that a good enough reason to give them a hospital. Saudi is nice, is that a good enough reason tone silent about what their Royal house stand over?
    In fairness, feck off with it's OK because it's 'nice' defence. :)


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    What debate? Is she the chief of staff of the British armed forces? Did these forces murder Irish people on our streets?
    What exactly is wrong with my statement?
    The UK is a constitutional monarchy, and she is commander in chief in name only, just like Michael D is here. She did not order any forces to do anything. And you know this. The UK government did and she has no influence over it's decisions.


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    #232
    FrancieBrady
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    No. The current Chief of the Defence Staff is ACM Sir Stuart Peach.

    Nor was she a commander-in-chief in the military sense, she, like our President, holds the de jure position of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

    Yes she is the sovereign, and yes officers hold the sovereign's commission.

    Yes, she is a Royal Colonel.......and if you want to be scathing about the Royal Colonels, if it was me, I'd go for Charlie-boy.....between his fondness for the Paras' uniform and his colonelcy of the Black Watch, he has an association with regiments who have an atrocious record on this island.

    No, despite all that she never exercised operational command, or even political control, over any of the UK's armed services.

    Did he say she had operational command? Must have missed that.


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    #233
    Beyondgone
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Lots of things are 'nice'. Look at current issues, nuns kept hospitals nice, is that a good enough reason to give them a hospital. Saudi is nice, is that a good enough reason tone silent about what their Royal house stand over?
    In fairness, feck off with it's OK because it's 'nice' defence. :)

    I'll stick with my own ideas of what's nice Francie. ;) You fire ahead and burn the whole world down. It isn't a "defence" either, it's my opinion. Oddly, I have one that may well differ from yours. Odd eh? Who knew?


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    #234
    FrancieBrady
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    Beyondgone wrote: »
    I'll stick with my own ideas of what's nice Francie. ;) You fire ahead and burn the whole world down. It isn't a "defence" either, it's my opinion. Oddly, I have one that may well differ from yours. Odd eh? Who knew?

    And I have an opinion also. On an opinion forum, yet I'm 'burning the world down' :) classic!


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    #235
    neverever1
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    No. The current Chief of the Defence Staff is ACM Sir Stuart Peach.

    Nor was she a commander-in-chief in the military sense, she, like our President, holds the de jure position of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

    Yes she is the sovereign, and yes officers hold the sovereign's commission.

    Yes, she is a Royal Colonel.......and if you want to be scathing about the Royal Colonels, if it was me, I'd go for Charlie-boy.....between his fondness for the Paras' uniform and his colonelcy of the Black Watch, he has an association with regiments who have an atrocious record on this island.

    No, despite all that she never exercised operational command, or even political control, over any of the UK's armed services.

    Oh yes, she is commander in chief of the British armed forces. Like I said the first time. The British armed forces were still killing people on our streets up to the very recent past. Also like I said.
    What I didn't talk about was the absolute insult she gave us all a few years ago. We invited her over and she didn't apologise once for the murder, maiming and destruction her forces inflicted on us. Why are people ok with that?


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    #236
    Jawgap
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    Beyondgone wrote: »
    The Royals are like Art - you have to have some nice stuff to look at. They keep a lot of nice stuff nice, parks, big houses, pomp, ceremony etc etc. Non-everyday stuff. Some people however just like rubbing their own sh1t on the walls and consider anything "nice" to be superfluous and worth ripping up.

    I'm no major Royalist, I'm just not motivated to hate them or begrudge them because I think they provide a bit of "nice".

    I heard the Philip lad go "I've done my bit, I want to have some fun now". I kinda think he did and he should.

    definitely good for the ol' tourism :D

    .....incidentally, most of the horses used by the various mounted regiments in the British Army are Irish......which makes you wonder why we as a country with some of the best horses in the world, a National Stud of international repute and an Army Equitation tradition bigger countries would kill for don't have mounted regiments....for ceremonials etc.

    We used to have one......the Blue Hussars....

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    .....they were disbanded in the late 1940s by Dev.....the execuse, apprarently being there was a lack of suitable horses......in Ireland!!!!

    In a bit of a nod to them, it's the reason why the 2nd Cavalry Squadron (the ones who escort the President and visiting dignitaries) ride blue motorbikes....

    4109898900_d390b7eb0f_b.jpg


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    #237
    neverever1
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    Valeria Whining Shinbone wrote: »
    The UK is a constitutional monarchy, and she is commander in chief in name only, just like Michael D is here. She did not order any forces to do anything. And you know this. The UK government did and she has no influence over it's decisions.

    Again you're too late. I've explained this above. :D


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    Beyondgone
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    And I have an opinion also. On an opinion forum, yet I'm 'burning the world down' :) classic!

    Whatever.
    I love what they did with their garden tho. Very nice. I'd love a garden like theirs. You can tell a lot about people from their gardens.


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    #239
    FrancieBrady
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    neverever1 wrote: »
    Oh yes, she is commander in chief of the British armed forces. Like I said the first time. The British armed forces were still killing people on our streets up to the very recent past. Also like I said.
    What I didn't talk about was the absolute insult she gave us all a few years ago. We invited her over and she didn't apologise once for the murder, maiming and destruction her forces inflicted on us. Why are people ok with that?
    She was feted and kowtowed to here while her forces hid info on many deaths on our streets. But we are supposed to forget that too. Apparently because she has a retinue of staff to keep the place 'nice'. :) We will be having a whip round for a retirement present next. :)


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    Jawgap
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Did he say she had operational command? Must have missed that.

    Well done for standing up for a fellow traveller.

    A C-in-C is the term used to denote an officer within the chain of command who has operational command of a force - they are usually at the political/military interface (one from removed from the civilian politican seving as the Minister of Defence).
    neverever1 wrote: »
    Oh yes, she is commander in chief of the British armed forces. Like I said the first time. The British armed forces were still killing people on our streets up to the very recent past. Also like I said.
    What I didn't talk about was the absolute insult she gave us all a few years ago. We invited her over and she didn't apologise once for the murder, maiming and destruction her forces inflicted on us. Why are people ok with that?

    well she's not really......or can you point to an order she gave sending anyone anywhere?

    She's no more a military commander than President Higgins is.

    ....and to be clear, I'm not defending the institution of monarchy - it's anachronistic to say the least and if the folk in GB & NI (and the other vestiges of empire and commonwealth) want to have it, then hey, as a good republican, I've no problem with them engaging in a bit of self-determination.


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    neverever1
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    Well done for standing up for a fellow traveller.

    A C-in-C is the term used to denote an officer within the chain of command who has operational command of a force - they are usually at the political/military interface (one from removed from the civilian politican seving as the Minister of Defence).



    well she's not really......or can you point to an order she gave sending anyone anywhere?

    She's no more a military commander than President Higgins is.

    ....and to be clear, I'm not defending the institution of monarchy - it's anachronistic to say the least and if the folk in GB & NI (and the other vestiges of empire and commonwealth) want to have it, then hey, as a good republican, I've no problem with them engaging in a bit of self-determination.

    She's commander in chief. Fact. Her armed forces killed, maimed and tortured many on our island. Fact. She never apologised for her armed forces murder campaign. Fact. Why are you ok with that?


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