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2018 Leaf

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  • Posts: 21,542 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would imagine if there were many more taxis then the drivers would all be tied to the fast charge points which is why the SCP's should be installed at taxi ranks to even encourage taxi drivers to change to EV and they could plug in while they wait for customers. 6.5-7 Kw is plenty over the course of a day.

    I expect the main reason for taxi drivers not changing is because they just take the fuel costs from the fares anyway and are not bothered , I bet that taxi driver in Gorey doesn't pass on any savings to his customers as I expect all taxi drivers would do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    BoatMad wrote: »
    Ive plastered his Leaf with IEVOA warning cards

    The IEVOA have warning cards? :eek: Do they give infractions as well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,618 ✭✭✭grogi


    I expect the main reason for taxi drivers not changing is because they just take the fuel costs from the fares anyway and are not bothered , I bet that taxi driver in Gorey doesn't pass on any savings to his customers as I expect all taxi drivers would do.

    That is a bizarre logic...

    What a taxi driver takes in fares is his income - the less cost needs to be covered, the more take-home money. They do care about the cost of fuel - but as many others are not yet convinced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,845 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I know of a guy who supplied a manufactured product part to a MNC.
    He found a way to make it for about a third of the previous cost.
    Did he tell the MNC???


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,267 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Taxi Fares are set by the regulator, the driver has to charge the set rate. Makes driving an EV Taxi a sensible option


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭isnottheword


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    This guy's a legend:D . Don't get me wrong - he's still what you say he is BrianD3 but that article - what can you possibly say by way of response! I know it was 2011 and demand on said FCP wouldn't have been what it is today - but he made no effort to disguise the fact that he was (and still is) blatantly abusing the system.


    I'd be mad as hell if he affected my ability to charge - so I can understand totally the frustration there must be locally for EV drivers. I've already gotten pretty 'thick' with some bumbling thoughtless fools - but without knowing the guy - I'd assume he's pretty brazen. i doubt a dressing down would bother the likes of him and even if it did, the €300 yoyo a week he's saving will insulate him from any barracking he gets.

    If you're in the area locally - and are directly affected by this lad, ye need to organise and do something (I'd offer to help with that but I'm over 300KM away). I can't say for sure what but where there's a will there's a way. It's precarious territory in terms of what's right n wrong but what would happen for example if he kept returning to an uncharged taxi over a sustained period? I'd imagine such circumstances could arise without a breach of the law? That's a question by the way - so do your own due diligence.


    Edit - just to add, if his savings are as he suggested, he's got a €20K head start on anyone else in the Taxi game there - if he's been at this crack since Dec. 2011.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,943 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    If you're in the area locally - and are directly affected by this lad, ye need to organise and do something

    I'm not from the area, but I've always encouraged those who are to disconnect him whenever possible. Even if you dont need to charge, even if you're just passing in an ICE or on foot!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    I'm not from the area, but I've always encouraged those who are to disconnect him whenever possible. When if you dont need to charge, even if you're just passing in an ICE or on foot!

    I wouldn't normally condone such actions, but in this case, absofukinlutely.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    liamog wrote: »
    Taxi Fares are set by the regulator, the driver has to charge the set rate. Makes driving an EV Taxi a sensible option

    just to clarify, the The Regulator set the Maximum fare. A taxi driver can offer reduced fares if he wants, but he would be mad to do so imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    kceire wrote: »
    just to clarify, the The Regulator set the Maximum fare. A taxi driver can offer reduced fares if he wants, but he would be mad to do so imo.

    This.

    And the savings on fuel are offset by the fact that it is much less convenient to charge than refuel and you would be unable to accept a lot of long distance fares. I wouldn't use a Leaf as a taxi if my dinner relied on it. At a push, I would consider the Ioniq, but would want more range to be comfortable.


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  • Posts: 21,542 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Drivers in companies with larger fleets could swap cars when longer range is required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,618 ✭✭✭grogi


    Drivers in companies with larger fleets could swap cars when longer range is required.

    And how that would exactly work?

    Taxi picks someone at the airport:
    - Where are we going?
    - I need to get to some got-forgotten-place 120km from here please.
    - Certainly, we just need to swap cars on our way... (and do some grocery shopping)...

    Alternatively:
    - No problem, we will just do a small detour to get to FCP and relax there for 15 mins.

    I'm sure you'd love that :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,719 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    How many taxi rides would be over 100km? At a guess maybe 1%

    Any pre-booked can be handled by ICE and if someone gets into your taxi and asks to be taken over 100km away, politely ask them to get into the next taxi at the rank

    Leaf is ideal as a taxi imho :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    goz83 wrote: »
    I wouldn't normally condone such actions, but in this case, absofukinlutely.

    sadly he is a wan&er, Ive had personal runs in with him when he disconnected me, when he thought I wasn't around, sadly penalties will be the only thing that controls these people, cause that as all they react to .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    n97 mini wrote: »
    The IEVOA have warning cards? :eek: Do they give infractions as well?

    none, we have a nice printed cars thats asks you to please not park in our refuelling space


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Mope


    Where and how can one get some of those cards?

    I'd like to also more people use PlugShare with its "Social" aspect available... e.g. writing a comment for how long you going to stay so when you approach FCP you actually know if there is someone and how long they'll stay there. So some sort of "campaign" to promote it is nice touch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Mope wrote: »
    Where and how can one get some of those cards?

    Join the IEVOA, www.irishevowners.ie and ask for them

    ( Now with a free membership tier to boot )


    You will also get a nice car stocker as well.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    BoatMad wrote: »
    Join the IEVOA, www.irishevowners.ie and ask for them

    ( Now with a free membership tier to boot )


    You will also get a nice car stocker as well.

    Ive joined a few weeks back.
    Where do we ask for the cards / stickers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    kceire wrote: »
    Ive joined a few weeks back.
    Where do we ask for the cards / stickers?

    send me a PM with your address or email and Ill send you some


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    BoatMad wrote: »
    send me a PM with your address or email and Ill send you some

    Cheers .
    PM sent


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  • Posts: 21,542 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's hardly any point sticking something on someone else's windows.

    I'm sure most of you are are around long enough to know that you will never change another persons way of thinking and it will achieve absolutely nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,334 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    There's hardly any point sticking something on someone else's windows.

    I'm sure most of you are are around long enough to know that you will never change another persons way of thinking and it will achieve absolutely nothing.

    You've become disillusioned with everything lately! :)


  • Posts: 21,542 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KCross wrote: »
    You've become disillusioned with everything lately! :)

    Explain that ? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,334 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Explain that ? :)

    Just a general impression from your posts recently... disillusioned with EV uptake, people's behavior, government... ya da ya da


  • Posts: 21,542 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KCross wrote: »
    Just a general impression from your posts recently... disillusioned with EV uptake, people's behavior, government... ya da ya da

    Well could you blame me ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,334 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Well could you blame me ?

    Not really no.

    Positive mental attitude is the way forward though! :)


  • Posts: 21,542 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KCross wrote: »
    Not really no.

    Positive mental attitude is the way forward though! :)

    I think dealing with reality is a better way than false hope lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    He rotates 2 Leafs while he works and has also been spotted unplugging others via the emergency stop button so he can plug in.
    So let me get this straight there's no external monitoring of the emergency button?
    You hit the button and that's it.
    You can keep on using the charge point after an emergency is supposed to have happened?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    So let me get this straight there's no external monitoring of the emergency button?
    You hit the button and that's it.
    You can keep on using the charge point after an emergency is supposed to have happened?

    It's an emergency stop charging button. It's not an emergency, there's a building on fire button. No need for external monitoring.
    It reboots the system and during that reboot the car is technically not charging so it can be unplugged.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,111 ✭✭✭Soarer


    So what do we reckon on pricing?

    Surely it can't be (much) more than the current model? I mean, if it's €35k after grants, that'd be bring it very close to a Tesla, and €10k more than an Ioniq!


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