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Antifa.....the joke that keeps on giving

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    20Cent wrote: »
    There is no argument to be had. Shut down fascists. That is all.

    Are they really fascists?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    B_Wayne wrote: »
    Based on an interview from 60 minutes that some extraordinarily groups have picked up as collaboration. People and sites who make the claim include Ann Coulter, Rense(white supremacist site) and infowars. They conveniently ignore the fact that he was 14 and in fact warned Jewish lawyers of immediate capture and resisted in a small way by doing so. The transcript of what he's basing it on is below.

    You keep making some excuse that he was 14....theres kids in Syria with machine guns younger than that
    My Great Grandfather was 16 when he left Ireland to fight in WW1
    There is no way I would be having the best year of my life in 1944


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Extrajudicial punishment is anti fascist?

    we dont like fascists here, lets combat them by using violence to shut down dissent. quite paradoxical isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Depp wrote: »
    we dont like fascists here, lets combat them by using violence to shut down dissent. quite paradoxical isn't it?

    I just hope they have the sense not to refer to themselves as squads, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    20Cent wrote: »
    Damigo's university. Sound like he'll be looking for somewhere new to study.

    www.csustan.edu/president/desk-of-the-president

    Only if he does something on campus


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    20Cent wrote: »
    Damigo's university. Sound like he'll be looking for somewhere new to study.

    www.csustan.edu/president/desk-of-the-president

    Was reading about this earlier actually, think the guy definitely deserves punishment alright but seemingly as it happened off campus the college can't do anything without a huge lawsuit on their hands. I'd imagine he'll drop out and be given a job in the alt right media now he has notoriety though unfortunately!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Only if he does something on campus

    Nope if he is a danger to other students he will be expelled.
    The letter sounds like they want rid of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    I just hope they have the sense not to refer to themselves as squads, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised.
    They already have experience wearing matching coloured shirts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    20Cent wrote: »
    Nope if he is a danger to other students he will be expelled.
    The letter sounds like they want rid of him.

    Nah seemingly not, college have no legal grounds for expulsion, they still can of course, but then he can sue so I don't imagine they will


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    You keep making some excuse that he was 14....theres kids in Syria with machine guns younger than that
    My Great Grandfather was 16 when he left Ireland to fight in WW1
    There is no way I would be having the best year of my life in 1944

    You keep desperately trying to portray a Jewish boy in Hungary 1944 as a Nazi collaborator... In terms of a credible backup, you don't have any. He describes them as an evil regime, he specifies that he held no role in the taking of property. You find his guilt in the fact that he knows he didn't collaborate. That's literally what he says in the 60 minutes interview that you're relying on.

    The happiest year of his life line that you're relying on is in reference to the fact that he recognised he heroism of his father. So yep, absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, he is proud of the fact that his father did the right thing.

    So yep, you're sentencing him as guilty with no evidence. It's really weird.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Depp wrote: »
    Nah seemingly not, college have no legal grounds for expulsion, they still can of course, but then he can sue so I don't imagine they will

    Just show the video of him smashing a girl in the face, plus his white supremacist writings and organisation. No one can have a psycho like that on campus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    B_Wayne wrote: »
    You keep desperately trying to portray a Jewish boy in Hungary 1944 as a Nazi collaborator... In terms of a credible backup, you don't have any. He describes them as an evil regime, he specifies that he held no role in the taking of property. You find his guilt in the fact that he knows he didn't collaborate. That's literally what he says in the 60 minutes interview that you're relying on.

    The happiest year of his life line that you're relying on is in reference to the fact that he recognised he heroism of his father. So yep, absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, he is proud of the fact that his father did the right thing.

    So yep, you're sentencing him as guilty with no evidence. It's really weird.

    The fact is he went out & took property from fellow Jews for the Nazis, he can spin it whatever way he wants.
    The guy is dodgy you only have to look at the wiki leaks emails to see he tries to get wars to happen so he can gain financially from them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    20Cent wrote: »
    Just show the video of him smashing a girl in the face, plus his white supremacist writings and organisation. No one can have a psycho like that on campus.

    But they can have Antifa members?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    20Cent wrote: »
    Just show the video of him smashing a girl in the face, plus his white supremacist writings and organisation. No one can have a psycho like that on campus.

    not that simple unfortunately! In the eyes of the law the pictures and testimonies of her throwing bottles are more than likely going to get him off on self defense in court should it get that far! Also a college cant expel someone for writing or saying something, thats kinda what freedom of speech means?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Depp wrote: »
    not that simple unfortunately! In the eyes of the law the pictures and testimonies of her throwing bottles are more than likely going to get him off on self defense in court should it get that far!

    Doubt he has the money to take it that far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    20Cent wrote: »
    Doubt he has the money to take it that far.

    Could start a GoFundMe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    20Cent wrote: »
    Doubt he has the money to take it that far.

    The alt right will funnel money to him for a lawsuit now he has noteriety. the college could expel him, but they probably wont given the legal hassle involved. Also the likelihood of him getting to court re hitting the girl is very slim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    20Cent wrote: »
    Doubt he has the money to take it that far.
    That guy with the stick a few weeks ago got plenty of funding. Imagine similar would happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    The fact is he went out & took property from fellow Jews for the Nazis, he can spin it whatever way he wants.
    The guy is dodgy you only have to look at the wiki leaks emails to see he tries to get wars to happen so he can gain financially from them

    That is a lie, he took no property and he did not look to do so. He stated this in the very interview that you cite. In terms of provoking wars. That's bull****.

    Sample of one of the dreaded wikileaks emails. He voices concern over a situation in Albania. Pretty legitimate concerns. So once again, you are lying. Noticeably, it's still all the crazy sources such as infowars that make the claims. Can you explain why you have such a bizarre obsession with Soros?
    While I am concerned about the rhetoric being used by both sides, I am particularly worried about the actions of the Prime Minister. There is videotape of National Guard members firing on demonstrators from the roof of the Prime
    Ministry. The Prosecutor (appointed by the Democratic Party) has issued arrest warrants for the individuals in question.

    The Prime Minister had previously accused the opposition of intentionally murdering these activists as a provocation.
    After the tape came out deputies from his party accused the Prosecutor of planning a coup d'etat in collaboration with
    the opposition, a charge Mr. Berisha repeated today. No arrests have been made as of this writing.

    The demonstration resulted from opposition protests over the conduct of parliamentary elections in 2009. The political
    environment has deteriorated ever since and is now approaching levels of 1997, when similar issues caused the country

    to slide into anarchy and violence. There are signs that Edi Rama's control of his own people is slipping, which may lead
    to further violence.

    The US and the EU must work in complete harmony over this, but given Albania's European aspirations the EU must take
    the lead. That is why I suggest appointing a mediator such as Carl Bildt. Martti Ahtisaari or Miroslav Lajcak, all of whom
    have strong connections to the Balkans.

    My foundation in Tirana is monitoring the situation closely and can provide independent analysis of the crisis.

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/28972


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    This is refreshing to see, the cops down South won't let any antifa in who are wearing masks

    https://twitter.com/InTheYear1611/status/854694555500900352


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    The obsession with Soros is that there has to be some shadowy figure pulling strings behind everything for the conspiracy theorist. At least some theoriea make sense. This one is that Soros is a nazi and is funding antifascist because .....something.......profit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    20Cent wrote: »
    The obsession with Soros is that there has to be some shadowy figure pulling strings behind everything for the conspiracy theorist. At least some theoriea make sense. This one is that Soros is a nazi and is funding antifascist because .....something.......profit.
    Similar to the Koch brothers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    20Cent wrote: »
    The obsession with Soros is that there has to be some shadowy figure pulling strings behind everything for the conspiracy theorist. At least some theoriea make sense. This one is that Soros is a nazi and is funding antifascist because .....something.......profit.

    Soros has taken the place of the Rothschilds as the centrepiece of Conspiracy Theories around Illuminati/NWO/ Lizard People/Archons/Evil Zionist Jews Wanting to Destroy the White Race et al.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Soros has taken the place of the Rothschilds as the centrepiece of Conspiracy Theories around Illuminati/NWO/ Lizard People/Archons/Evil Zionist Jews Wanting to Destroy the White Race et al.

    Dont forget the inter-dimensional child molesters!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Depp wrote: »
    Dont forget the inter-dimensional child molesters!

    Yes. And they are blood drinkers as well. Can't forget that.

    I mean according to Disciples of the Great David Icke, David Rockefeller lived to over one hundred because he drank baby blood.

    Whether it was pasteurised or UHT, we don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Yes. And they are blood drinkers as well. Can't forget that.

    I mean according to Disciples of the Great David Icke, David Rockefeller lived to over one hundred because he drank baby blood.

    Whether it was pasteurised or UHT, we don't know.

    I'll literally never understand why people take him seriously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    I wish we could take the moral high-ground on this Soros stuff but the past few years have seen a certain segment within Ireland laying everything at the feet of Peter Sutherland; banks, migration, big ole conspiracies.

    Still I suspect nothing is quite as seductive as being part of the 'in group' that knows what's really going on, not like the mere sheeple.

    Then again, thinking I know better does put is in an 'in group' of our own, so we have a logical conundrum here XD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Depp wrote: »
    I'll literally never understand why people take him seriously

    The paranoid that wish to blame other people/things/constructs for their own failings? And he veers away from linking anything to race. Except Alien race of course. He is the acceptable face of nut-jobbism.

    But hey. David is laughing all the way to the bank. His seminars are packed with people. I guess he is having the last laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    I wish we could take the moral high-ground on this Soros stuff but the past few years have seen a certain segment within Ireland laying everything at the feet of Peter Sutherland; banks, migration, big ole conspiracies.

    Still I suspect nothing is quite as seductive as being part of the 'in group' that knows what's really going on, not like the mere sheeple.

    Then again, thinking I know better does put is in an 'in group' of our own, so we have a logical conundrum here XD

    The idea that the ruling classes don't conspire seems ridiculously naive to me, though picking one person can be a problem of course.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    The idea that the ruling classes don't conspire seems ridiculously naive to me, though picking one person can be a problem of course.

    I think the problem is that conspire is really overstating things - suggesting that people are actively engaged in some kind of mass plot is really going too far. On the other hand, observing things like for example judges favouring members of their own class, or politicians not being that eager to prosecute each other for expense abuses, that seems more plausible and comprehensible.


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