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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Are you aware of what loyalist normally refers to???

    GTFO, it's different times now, originally it was Loyalist- a supporter of the sovereign or of the existing government, especially in time of revolt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,505 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Loved the sf branding on show. Why waste a good funeral ehh? Was waiting on Gerry advising everyone watching to visit www. Sf.com to buy exclusive Marty key rings. Target audience idiotic Irish Americans especially welcome.

    And as for the mcguinness was not a terrorist but a freedom fighter fantasy I almost smiled when I heard that. Nice going Gerry. You'll have unionists eating out of your hand with that guff. Long live Gerry I say...

    Knobhead.


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    timthumbni wrote: »
    Let me know if you want to know any other basic info regarding NI.

    Looking forward to reading the book when you publish it Tim. Heres a suggestion for the front cover.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    I will post this again in the hope Tim takes on board what it means about his miseducation.
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    You have posted it that much I'm surprised cain haven't had the solicitors around your door... have you any comment aside from posting a table that covers over 3-4 years from cain???? Before you reply I will warn you that I consider loyalists to be just as much terrorists as the Ira and other republican groups of violence so I will be interested where you are going here.

    For balance can you also post a table of the total killings over this period in NI, not just civilians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    If you all want have arguments over who killed who and how often the CAIN index of deaths have an on this day feature..visit it every day over the course of the year and you start to get an idea


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Knobhead.

    Great input... bravo lawred2..... much love.. ;-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    GTFO, it's different times now, originally it was Loyalist- a supporter of the sovereign or of the existing government, especially in time of revolt.

    I'm well aware of the old meanings. But in all my days in NI, (Born and bred) I have never heard anyone referring to a school as loyalist. It would be like me refer to a catholic school as a republican school. But you do have a relation in south Armagh so I'm sure you know best. ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    timthumbni wrote: »
    You have posted it that much I'm surprised cain haven't had the solicitors around your door... have you any comment aside from posting a table that covers over 3-4 years from cain???? Before you reply I will warn you that I consider loyalists to be just as much terrorists as the Ira and other republican groups of violence so I will be interested where you are going here.

    For balance can you also post a table of the total killings over this period in NI, not just civilians.

    I linked the article originally and commented on it. That was the second time I posted it when I referred it to you. You clearly seen it the first time and when others reposted it but your first post was to try and list the deaths caused by one side. And the most emotive ones to boot, corpse waving as Tom called it. That speaks volumes Tim, you know that don't you? You do, the desperation oozes out of every post.

    I posted the article in relation to how our media were covering Martin's death, I have no real interest in analysing the figures with somebody so pathetically intent on slanting them. Thanks a!l the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I'm well aware of the old meanings. But in all my days in NI, (Born and bred) I have never heard anyone referring to a school as loyalist. It would be like me refer to a catholic school as a republican school. But you do have a relation in south Armagh so I'm sure you know best. ;-)

    Wullie Frazer did it about a school flying the Italian flag. He aligns with your view of the conflict, you must be chuffed? :D imagine being on Willie's side of history.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I consider loyalists to be just as much terrorists as the Ira.

    Yet you refuse to acknowledge that there was systemic collusion between the RUC/UDR/BA and so-called 'loyalists'. Here's one gang of murderers, bombers and colluders for you to consider: 'The Glenanne Gang'

    John Oliver Weir - RUC.
    William "Billy" McCaughey- RUC.
    Billy Hanna - UDR.
    Robin "The Jackal" Jackson - UDR member and an alleged RUC Special Branch agent
    Robert McConnell - UVF and 2nd Battalion UDR corporal.
    Laurence McClure - UVF volunteer and RUC SPG
    James Mitchell - an RUC Reserve.
    Robert John "R.J". Kerr - UDA commander.
    Harris Boyle - UDR soldier and UVF volunteer.
    Wesley Somerville - UDR soldier and a UVF lieutenant.
    Gary Armstrong - RUC sergeant.
    Captain John Irwin - UDR intelligence officer
    Thomas Raymond Crozier - UDR, and UVF.
    James Roderick McDowell - UDR, and UVF
    John James Somerville - UDR
    Norman Greenlee - UDR soldier and UVF volunteer.
    Gordon Liggett - (UDA).
    William Ashton Wright - UDR soldier.
    Joey Lutton - UDR.
    Laurence Tate - UDR
    William Thomas Leonard - UDR
    Ian Mitchell - RUC
    David Wilson - RUC

    That's the tip of the iceberg. The so-called 'security forces' were a breeding ground for sectarian serial murderers and collusion with loyalist murder gangs was endemic. Rotten to the core.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Not forgetting Tim the sight of children needing the PSNI to get them safely to school, in modern Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I'm well aware of the old meanings. But in all my days in NI, (Born and bred) I have never heard anyone referring to a school as loyalist. It would be like me refer to a catholic school as a republican school. But you do have a relation in south Armagh so I'm sure you know best. ;-)

    Ok, I'm not doing this shít with you, I was born in the south, It was always sold to me as loyalism from family. Take your crap semantics elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Yet you refuse to acknowledge that there was systemic collusion between the RUC/UDR/BA and so-called 'loyalists'. Here's one gang of murderers, bombers and colluders for you to consider: 'The Glenanne Gang'

    John Oliver Weir - RUC.
    William "Billy" McCaughey- RUC.
    Billy Hanna - UDR.
    Robin "The Jackal" Jackson - UDR member and an alleged RUC Special Branch agent
    Robert McConnell - UVF and 2nd Battalion UDR corporal.
    Laurence McClure - UVF volunteer and RUC SPG
    James Mitchell - an RUC Reserve.
    Robert John "R.J". Kerr - UDA commander.
    Harris Boyle - UDR soldier and UVF volunteer.
    Wesley Somerville - UDR soldier and a UVF lieutenant.
    Gary Armstrong - RUC sergeant.
    Captain John Irwin - UDR intelligence officer
    Thomas Raymond Crozier - UDR, and UVF.
    James Roderick McDowell - UDR, and UVF
    John James Somerville - UDR
    Norman Greenlee - UDR soldier and UVF volunteer.
    Gordon Liggett - (UDA).
    William Ashton Wright - UDR soldier.
    Joey Lutton - UDR.
    Laurence Tate - UDR
    William Thomas Leonard - UDR
    Ian Mitchell - RUC
    David Wilson - RUC

    That's the tip of the iceberg. The so-called 'security forces' were a breeding ground for sectarian serial murderers and collusion with loyalist murder gangs was endemic. Rotten to the core.

    What unionism/loyalism and the British know is that most of this stuff has yet to come into the public realm. There are tremendously difficult times ahead as the victims will not let this go, like the Bloody Sunday victims. If it takes 40 years the truth will out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Wullie Frazer did it about a school flying the Italian flag. He aligns with your view of the conflict, you must be chuffed? :D imagine being on Willie's side of history.

    I give no 2 fecks about willie. He is an idiot. You remind me of a republican version of him though. But don't fret. You have plenty of company on here with some of your fellow republican flyers. Carry on.

    On the topic didn't one of the SF MLas (wee small fella, Mcelduff from Tyrone I think) complain about some form of Gaelic McDonald's burger not being available in NI whilst it was in the republic. I **** you not. You see two can play at that game chum.... (in fact willie received a few hundred votes when he stood, mcilduff received thousands lol)

    Ps. I dread to think what would be in a Mcds Gaelic burger. In fact I dread to think what is in their normal burgers ffs...


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Ok, I'm not doing this shít with you, I was born in the south, It was always sold to me as loyalism from family. Take your crap semantics elsewhere.

    See Tim has this little story playing out in his head that unionists are completely different to loyalists. Upstanding law-abiding Unionists joined the RUC and UDR while nasty killer loyalist terrorists joined the UVF/UFF.

    Of course, as we can see in my post above, there is no real difference when it came to the 'security forces', they complimented each other, they shared information with each other, they shared weapons and the RUC/UDR even provided killers. Loyalist murder gangs were riddled with informers yet they were still able to carry out some heinous massacres like Greysteel and Loughinisland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I give no 2 fecks about willie. He is an idiot. You remind me of a republican version of him though. But don't fret. You have plenty of company on here with some of your fellow republican flyers. Carry on.

    On the topic didn't one of the SF MLas (wee small fella, Mcelduff from Tyrone I think) complain about some form of Gaelic McDonald's burger not being available in NI whilst it was in the republic. I **** you not. You see two can play at that game chum.... (in fact willie received a few hundred votes when he stood, mcilduff received thousands lol)

    Ps. I dread to think what would be in a Mcds Gaelic burger. In fact I dread to think what is in their normal burgers ffs...

    You've just outed yourself there. Thanks. :) I'm píssed at myself that I didn't cop on that you were who you were. Kicking myself I responded to you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Ok, I'm not doing this shít with you, I was born in the south, It was always sold to me as loyalism from family. Take your crap semantics elsewhere.

    I can't be held responsible if you were fed incorrect information by your family. You are posting, not your family. A Bit of personal responsibility is needed on your part. I won't be going anywhere. Just because you were proved wrong doesn't mean I have to leave. As I said we don't need to converse again as obviously you have no clue about NI.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    You've just outed yourself there. Thanks. :) I'm píssed at myself that I didn't cop on that you were a who you were. Kicking myself I responded to you.

    Night. (Hardly outed myself as I've only had the one username on here and will never have another one) unlike some of the so called republicans on here who seem to change their usernames more often that they change their underwear. What is the point of changing your name anyway???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I give no 2 fecks about willie. He is an idiot. You remind me of a republican version of him though. But don't fret. You have plenty of company on here with some of your fellow republican flyers. Carry on.

    On the topic didn't one of the SF MLas (wee small fella, Mcelduff from Tyrone I think) complain about some form of Gaelic McDonald's burger not being available in NI whilst it was in the republic. I **** you not. You see two can play at that game chum.... (in fact willie received a few hundred votes when he stood, mcilduff received thousands lol)

    Ps. I dread to think what would be in a Mcds Gaelic burger. In fact I dread to think what is in their normal burgers ffs...

    That the best you can do Tim? McLoyalism, tasty but you will be hungry again in 10 minutes.

    The difference between me and Wullie is that I fully accept that horrific awful things were done by both sides. McGuinness accepted that too and IMO regretted it, as I do.
    You and Wullie pretend when it suits to accept that.

    As the graphic shows clearly everyone knows who randomly killed whenever the unionist statelet looked like being dismantled and yesterday showed who STILL has a problem putting out their hand.
    You and Wullie are firmly on the wrong side of history I'm afraid. As I said earlier in the thread I would have applauded Arlene yesterday, in good faith. You cannot even let a thread on an internet forum pass without spewing some bile.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Night. (Hardly outed myself as I've only had the one username on here and will never have another one) unlike some of the so called republicans on here who seem to change their usernames more often that they change their underwear. What is the point of changing your name anyway???

    What was my previous username? If there was one?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    What was my previous username? If there was one?

    Surely only you would know that. Why are you asking me ffs? Are you senile?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Surely only you would know that. Why are you asking me ffs? Are you senile?

    Listen Billy, you're a good laugh, but not to be taken to seriously.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    That the best you can do Tim? McLoyalism, tasty but you will be hungry again in 10 minutes.

    The difference between me and Wullie is that I fully accept that horrific awful things were done by both sides. McGuinness accepted that too and IMO regretted it, as I do.
    You and Wullie pretend when it suits to accept that.

    You cannot even let a thread on an internet forum pass without spewing some bile.

    It's good surely to hear from a genuine unionist voice on here is it not???

    After all your supreme leader Kim Yong Adams was apparently reaching out to us yesterday.. did you not listen to his sincere words?

    I post very rarely on these boards. However if Gerry farted I would expect to see you post that it smelled great ffs. Some people are just such complete and utter lickspittles..


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Listen Billy, you're a good laugh, but not to be taken to seriously.

    That's a bit sectarian Justice.... my name isn't billy but did you ask your far out family in south Armagh if you should use such language????

    Such an expert but don't worry you will get plenty of thanks from others who probably have an old senile aunt who lives in south Armagh but tells them the truth about NI and their "loyalist" schooling. Lol ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    timthumbni wrote: »
    That's a bit sectarian Justice.... my name isn't billy but did you ask your far out family in south Armagh if you should use such language????

    Such an expert but don't worry you will get plenty of thanks from others who probably have an old senile aunt who lives in south Armagh but tells them the truth about NI and their "loyalist" schooling. Lol ;-)

    ..And justice. Think about it. It's not just a metallica record.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    timthumbni wrote: »
    It's good surely to hear from a genuine unionist voice on here is it not???

    After all your supreme leader Kim Yong Adams was apparently reaching out to us yesterday.. did you not listen to his sincere words?

    I post very rarely on these boards. However if Gerry farted I would expect to see you post that it smelled great ffs. Some people are just such complete and utter lickspittles..

    No Tim, I don't think you are a Unionist. I rather suspect you are an angry rejected Loyalist, rejected by the British and unable to come to terms with it.
    Hopefully you will take this in the spirit it is meant and join the other representatives of unionism that were in that church yesterday.
    I feel you know this in your soul. This thread is absent of the usual suspects defending, because they just intuitively know.
    The IRA did many many bad things but it is now clear that we had to go through what we did. We are now building the peace but it has to be honest peace.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    timthumbni wrote: »
    It's good surely to hear from a genuine unionist voice on here is it not???

    Yes. You're not exactly a moderate unionist though. More the Jim Allister end of the spectrum. It's a real pity that young liberal Unionists go to university in Britain and don't come back.

    Maybe we should have some sort of scholarship system in universities in the south to encourage young unionists to stay in Ireland so they could replace the old guard in the north.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    No Tim, I don't think you are a Unionist. I rather suspect you are an angry rejected Loyalist, rejected by the British and unable to come to terms with it.
    Hopefully you will take this in the spirit it is meant and join the other representatives of unionism that were in that church yesterday.
    I feel you know this in your soul. This thread is absent of the usual suspects defending, because they just intuitively know.
    The IRA did many many bad things but it is now clear that we had to go through what we did. We are now building the peace but it has to be honest peace.

    Ffs Francis. I would be a strange loyalist who lump the dickhead loyalist terrorists along with the clown republican Ira terrorists. Please don't tell me you have an aunt in south Armagh like that other poster so that's how you know things somehow...

    I have already said I have no issue with Arlene going to the funeral. I also said it wouldn't have bothered me if she hadn't went either. I'm not really for these modern xfactor style funerals anyway. I go to the funerals of those I know. Not some politician, sportsman or singer that I didn't know personally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Yes. You're not exactly a moderate unionist though. More the Jim Allister end of the spectrum. It's a real pity that young liberal Unionists go to university in Britain and don't come back.

    Maybe we should have some sort of scholarship system in universities in the south to encourage young unionists to stay in Ireland so they could replace the old guard in the north.

    Barring the fundamentalist christian stuff I think they would be a real asset in the Dail. Our heritage is important and they are part of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Ffs Francis. I would be a strange loyalist who lump the dickhead loyalist terrorists along with the clown republican Ira terrorists. Please don't tell me you have an aunt in south Armagh like that other poster so that's how you know things somehow...

    I have already said I have no issue with Arlene going to the funeral. I also said it wouldn't have bothered me if she hadn't went either. I'm not really for these modern xfactor style funerals anyway. I go to the funerals of those I know. Not some politician, sportsman or singer that I didn't know personally.

    Yeh yeh great Tim but you constantly spout the loyalist victim spiel. Like your concentration on corpse waving the victims of one side. We all know the tragedy created victims on all sides.
    Moderate Unionist? I meet them everyday of the week and you ain't one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Yes. You're not exactly a moderate unionist though. More the Jim Allister end of the spectrum. It's a real pity that young liberal Unionists go to university in Britain and don't come back.

    Maybe we should have some sort of scholarship system in universities in the south to encourage young unionists to stay in Ireland so they could replace the old guard in the north.

    As I said tom I do a lot more for making this wee country better than you do from sniping on the old tinternet from a very safe distance. I fully utilise integrated education in NI. ''Tis easy to sit 100s of miles away lobbing internet dummy grenades but at least I do something practical. I despise the Ira, the uvf and all the other paramilitary groupings. That's not a crime. They are the ones that need to ask forgiveness. I don't have to accept their actions at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Ffs Francis. I would be a strange loyalist who lump the dickhead loyalist terrorists along with the clown republican Ira terrorists. Please don't tell me you have an aunt in south Armagh like that other poster so that's how you know things somehow...

    I have already said I have no issue with Arlene going to the funeral. I also said it wouldn't have bothered me if she hadn't went either. I'm not really for these modern xfactor style funerals anyway. I go to the funerals of those I know. Not some politician, sportsman or singer that I didn't know personally.

    Ya ya, how come you had an xfactor funeral for billy the bollocks? Since he was a drug pusher and all that, him and that other ponce adare, what's the craic with that? Why did you lot kill each other indiscriminately? Why didn't you focus on the IRA? instead of gangbanging in prison.?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Barring the fundamentalist christian stuff I think they would be a real asset in the Dail. Our heritage is important and they are part of it.

    I truly believe that we'd all have benefitted if the island hadn't been partitioned and we'd have had a strong Protestant presence in our institutions.

    The RCC wouldn't have wielded the power it once abused and the north wouldn't have had Protestants abusing thier dominant position.

    Ireland might have had a much bigger population and the Dublin-Belfast corridor could have become an economic powerhouse conurbation.

    Maybe in the future...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Yeh yeh great Tim but you constantly spout the loyalist victim spiel. Like your concentration on corpse waving the victims of one side. We all know the tragedy created victims on all sides.
    Moderate Unionist? I meet them everyday of the week and you ain't one.

    That's because I've never saw a thread on here set up to massage the nuts of loyalist murderers. If there was one don't worry I would be there slagging them off too. I have a feeling that you wouldn't apply the same pathetic arguments there though. I would.....

    I meet moderate nationalists every day of the week and I can assure you that you "ain't one" either chum... see how this works.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭bigbrotherfan


    timthumbni wrote: »
    That's because I've never saw a thread on here set up to massage the nuts of loyalist murderers. If there was one don't worry I would be there slagging them off too. I have a feeling that you wouldn't apply the same pathetic arguments there though. I would.....

    I meet moderate nationalists every day of the week and I can assure you that you "ain't one" either chum... see how this works.
    I thought this was supposed to be a thread about Martin McGuinness R.I.P.. Talk about off topic....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    timthumbni wrote: »
    That's because I've never saw a thread on here set up to massage the nuts of loyalist murderers. If there was one don't worry I would be there slagging them off too. I have a feeling that you wouldn't apply the same pathetic arguments there though. I would.....

    I meet moderate nationalists every day of the week and I can assure you that you "ain't one" either chum... see how this works.

    Pull the other one, you're sitting there with your bib on...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭bigbrotherfan


    Pull the other one, you're sitting there with your bib on...
    I rest my case.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Ya ya, how come you had an xfactor funeral for billy the bollocks? Since he was a drug pusher and all that, him and that other ponce adare, what's the craic with that? Why did you lot kill each other indiscriminately? Why didn't you focus on the IRA? instead of gangbanging in prison.?

    Oh god. Now we have a drunk republican on the prowl with a far out relative (maybe an aunt we aren't sure) in NI apparently (lol) who himself seems to be homophobic though it's hard to translate the ramblings.

    "Gangbanging" suggests you watch too many yank tv shows too my man. Your south Armagh aunt would probably approve of more eastenders...


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I fully utilise integrated education in NI.

    Big deal. If I had my way all education would be integrated and all religion would be banned from all schools that receive public money and religious schools would be strictly regulated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭bigbrotherfan


    Big deal. If I had my way all education would be integrated and all religion would be banned from all schools that receive public money and religious schools would be strictly regulated.

    What has this got to do with Martin McGuinness, R.I.P.? This thread is gone way off topic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Big deal. If I had my way all education would be integrated and all religion would be banned from all schools that receive public money and religious schools would be strictly regulated.

    Good stuff Tom.

    So what exactly are you doing about it big balls??? (To others that's a common Norn Iron bit of slagging) I'm doing my bit, big deal or not to you.

    Or is your big deal sitting posting about it on the internet and then forgetting about it in the morning??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Oh god. Now we have a drunk republican on the prowl with a far out relative (maybe an aunt we aren't sure) in NI apparently (lol) who himself seems to be homophobic though it's hard to translate the ramblings.

    "Gangbanging" suggests you watch too many yank tv shows too my man. Your south Armagh aunt would probably approve of more eastenders...

    Ya don't drink anymore, gave it up a few years back because I didn't like it. It's fairly well established that ye boys bummed each other indiscriminately in the UDA wing. Even Johnny Adare admitted to this. The shock on his face when he came to Dublin and saw Irish people were normal......it changed him I think, not you though:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    What has this got to do with Martin McGuinness, R.I.P.? This thread is gone way off topic.

    Goodnight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭bigbrotherfan


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Goodnight.

    Sleep well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Ya don't drink anymore, gave it up a few years back because I didn't like it. It's fairly well established that ye boys bummed each other indiscriminately in the UDA wing. Even Johnny Adare admitted to this. The shock on his face when he came to Dublin and saw Irish people were normal......it changed him I think, not you though:)

    I hate using Facebook speak but........


    OMG.....................

    I'm not sure how to break this to you kiddo, but gerrys brother was into something that was slightly more illegal. Did your granny not tell you about that one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    timthumbni wrote: »
    That's because I've never saw a thread on here set up to massage the nuts of loyalist murderers. If there was one don't worry I would be there slagging them off too. I have a feeling that you wouldn't apply the same pathetic arguments there though. I would.....

    I meet moderate nationalists every day of the week and I can assure you that you "ain't one" either chum... see how this works.

    You have a curious way of expressing yourself then. I have always accepted that the IRA did some awful things and the likelihood that McGuinness did some awful things.
    What I will not accept is that that happened in isolation or that it happened without a motive.
    Churchill did some awful things to win his war but he is lionised and his dubious history is ignored.
    McGuinnes did nothing different to Churchill, everyone in that church accepted that.
    That is the reality you have to deal with as details of British collusion, the Glennane gang etc etc come out.
    What the IRA did is not suppressed or hidden or covered up. They have taken responsibility warts and all.
    A little bit of humility Tim might suit you better. But I sense you know that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I hate using Facebook speak but........


    OMG.....................

    I'm not sure how to break this to you kiddo, but gerrys brother was into something that was slightly more illegal. Did your granny not tell you about that one?

    What's that got to do with republicans? The general public in every walk of life were at this shíte in the 70's, 80's and 90's. It wasn't a republican thing, there's muppets in every family regardless of their political leanings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭bigbrotherfan


    What's that got to do with republicans? The general public in every walk of life were at this shíte in the 70's, 80's and 90's. It wasn't a republican thing, there's muppets in every family regardless of their political leanings.
    Totally agree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    You have a curious way of expressing yourself then. I have always accepted that the IRA did some awful things and the likelihood that McGuinness did some awful things.
    What I will not accept is that that happened in isolation or that it happened without a motive.
    Churchill did some awful things to win his war but he is lionised and his dubious history is ignored.
    McGuinnes did nothing different to Churchill, everyone in that church accepted that.
    That is the reality you have to deal with as details of British collusion, the Glennane gang etc etc come out.
    What the IRA did is not suppressed or hidden or covered up. They have taken responsibility warts and all.
    A little bit of humility Tim might suit you better. But I sense you know that.

    Your expelling too much air on this fool.


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