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partay pooper · 02-02-2017 6:26pm

py2006 wrote: »

Jaysus. You really are a partay pooper! Fair play!

Have you done a lot of these type of tests before?

I reckon though I fubbed up last weeks 1a test though.

:mad::(

py2006 · 02-02-2017 6:30pm

partay pooper wrote: »

I reckon though I fubbed up last weeks 1a test though.:mad::(

Ah I doubt it. Besides sounds like you did very well in this test so you should be a certainty for next stage.

starlit · 02-02-2017 7:16pm

Monife wrote: »

They really are. Did your report at the end say which questions you got wrong? Mine only said I got X out of 30 wrong and didn't tell me where I went wrong, so much for practising if you don't know where you went wrong!

Ya got that as well for report at the end of SHL practice test. Only showing the number of questions got correct and wrong.

Did other practice ones and sample ones online some very hard and others not too bad. You probably have to pass so many questions to get through speed and accuracy be important. Its handy if they can feedback the answers after completing tests and see where you went right/wrong.

For example a numerical one I did you had to get 8 correct out of so many was 30 qs which I thought was odd as I got exactly that and the verbal you had to get 29 correct out of what it was can't remember now but might have been out of 56 qs. My result was 27 missed by two!

Usually do well in the verbal and only practice verbal qs nearer the time whereas the numerical be my weak point. I'd have to practice over and over for a few days.

Without timed limit I do a bit better but the timer makes trying to answer the numerical qs harder when figuring out what formulas to use and correct figures/answers for the questions. Just even how to answer them you are under pressure. You either good at them or not!? I find i'd do better in them if working with figures a lot more often say in college/work.

I was going to do the actual tests today and get them out of the way but maybe give more time to prepare. I see how the evening goes and prep a bit more and see then if I do it by tonight or wait till the weekend. Internet glitchy earlier so wasn't sure if I'd do tests and hang on a bit.

Best of luck with tests everyone!

Mrsec · 02-02-2017 7:39pm

After the tests are done can we just log out or do we need to change email address or anything??

Micsween12 · 02-02-2017 8:30pm

Is the official test as difficult as the shl preparation test??

Francescoli · 02-02-2017 11:05pm

"You must complete the Verbal test to release the Numerical test thereafter"

Does that mean I can do one test first (verbal) and then do the numerical at a later date?

I was thinking of doing the verbal tomorrow morning and then the numerical Monday.

Gickyk · 02-02-2017 11:10pm

Monife wrote: »

From the information booklet.....

Essential Requirements for Executive Officer:
Candidates must, on or before 8th January, 2015

have obtained a recognised degree or hold a qualification in that in the opinion of the Public   Appointments Service, is of a standard in terms of both level and volume of learning that is of at least an equivalent or higher standard;

      or

(ii) have obtained in the Leaving Certificate Examination a minimum of grade D at Ordinary (or Pass) level in Mathematics and Irish or English, having obtained a minimum of Grade C in at least five subjects at Higher (or Honours) level papers;

            or

          hold a qualification, that in the opinion of the Public Appointments Service, is of a standard in terms of both level and volume of learning that is of at least an equivalent or higher standard to the Leaving Certificate (this will only be determined during the selection process or if a candidate comes under consideration for a position);
or
          have passed the first year examination of a course leading to a recognised degree;

            or
(vi)               be serving as a Civil Servant with at least two years service and have obtained at least five subjects in the Leaving Certificate Examination (including Mathematics and Irish or English), three of which should be minimum Grade C at higher level, the others should be a minimum Grade D at ordinary level. Or have passed an examination(s) which would be acceptable to the Public Appointments Service as being of at least an equivalent standard of the Leaving Certificate.

You can still apply for the open competition but if you have less than two years' service, you cannot apply for the interdepartmental competition.

I know this is irrelevant now but where does it say - (to be considered for internal comp?) - Ergo if you have a degree (vi) does not apply.. I didn't see anywhere where it states for external you need x and internal you need y.. I am suggesting once you,re in - any of the above could see you fit to take part in internal comp...No?

Copper_pipe · 03-02-2017 12:23am

Completed test there.

Got it all completed in the time. Thought maths wasn't too bad

armadillo86 · 03-02-2017 7:20am

Gickyk wrote: »

I know this is irrelevant now but where does it say - (to be considered for internal comp?) - Ergo if you have a degree (vi) does not apply.. I didn't see anywhere where it states for external you need x and internal you need y.. I am suggesting once you,re in - any of the above could see you fit to take part in internal comp...No?

There's a circular that states you cannot apply for interdepartmental unless you have 2 years service, regardless of educational qualifications. It was sent separately by our HR dept when the competition first opened. Can only apply for the open competition.

T1986 · 03-02-2017 9:42am

Gickyk wrote: »

I know this is irrelevant now but where does it say - (to be considered for internal comp?) - Ergo if you have a degree (vi) does not apply.. I didn't see anywhere where it states for external you need x and internal you need y.. I am suggesting once you,re in - any of the above could see you fit to take part in internal comp...No?

(vi) be serving as a Civil Servant with at least two years service and have obtained at least five subjects in the Leaving Certificate Examination (including Mathematics and Irish or English), three of which should be minimum Grade C at higher level, the others should be a minimum Grade D at ordinary level. Or have passed an examination(s) which would be acceptable to the Public Appointments Service as being of at least an equivalent standard of the Leaving Certificate.

You can still apply for the open competition but if you have less than two years' service, you cannot apply for the interdepartmental competition.

It clearly says it here that you cannot apply for internal comp if you have less than two years' service.

Monife · 03-02-2017 11:13am

T1986 wrote: »

(vi) be serving as a Civil Servant with at least two years service and have obtained at least five subjects in the Leaving Certificate Examination (including Mathematics and Irish or English), three of which should be minimum Grade C at higher level, the others should be a minimum Grade D at ordinary level. Or have passed an examination(s) which would be acceptable to the Public Appointments Service as being of at least an equivalent standard of the Leaving Certificate.

You can still apply for the open competition but if you have less than two years' service, you cannot apply for the interdepartmental competition.

It clearly says it here that you cannot apply for internal comp if you have less than two years' service.

I actually wrote that bit in bold... But it is true. The two years' service requirement is for civil servants who do not meet the educational requirements above and who want to also apply for the interdepartmental panel.

From the application form:

Eligible candidates NOT currently working in the Civil Service may apply for the
Open position.
Eligible candidates working in the Civil Service may apply for
the Open and Interdepartmental positions.

The key word here is "eligible" - The eligibility criteria is stated above and it is two years' service!

Crunchymomma · 03-02-2017 12:07pm

just did both verbal and numberical....practice tests went really well (all right in both) and apart from a mistake that i know i made in the numerical I think they went much better than i had thought they would after doing the sample tests they sent us last week.

Def jump up from the CO ones from last year though. Will be interested to see how I do now that I think I did well!!

py2006 · 03-02-2017 1:35pm

Crunchymomma wrote: »

just did both verbal and numberical....practice tests went really well (all right in both) and apart from a mistake that i know i made in the numerical I think they went much better than i had thought they would after doing the sample tests they sent us last week.

Def jump up from the CO ones from last year though. Will be interested to see how I do now that I think I did well!!

show off

doc11 · 03-02-2017 1:39pm

Crunchymomma wrote: »

just did both verbal and numberical....practice tests went really well (all right in both) and apart from a mistake that i know i made in the numerical I think they went much better than i had thought they would after doing the sample tests they sent us last week.

Def jump up from the CO ones from last year though. Will be interested to see how I do now that I think I did well!!

did you do the 30 practice questions or just the 8 before the test. Getting nowhere near the 30 right myself:pac:

carnie · 03-02-2017 2:48pm

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Completed test there.

Got it all completed in the time. Thought maths wasn't too bad

Was the actual test easier than the practice test?

I found that the test was miles easier than the practice SHL test for the last EO comp.

Copper_pipe · 03-02-2017 3:18pm

carnie wrote: »

Was the actual test easier than the practice test?

I found that the test was miles easier than the practice SHL test for the last EO comp.

Thought the maths was easier alright.

Had my Scientific Calculator from college too which helped.

Boards.ie: Mark · 03-02-2017 3:23pm

Hi everyone. Please avoid providing specific examples and answers, etc. on this thread.

eroc79 · 03-02-2017 3:33pm

Boards.ie: Mark wrote: »

Hi everyone. Please avoid providing specific examples and answers, etc. on this thread.

Any examples so far have been from the sample tests but thanks for the reminder.

carnie · 03-02-2017 5:13pm

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Thought the maths was easier alright.

Had my Scientific Calculator from college too which helped.

Do you reckon it helps? The missus has one I might just use hers

Copper_pipe · 03-02-2017 5:23pm

carnie wrote: »

Do you reckon it helps? The missus has one I might just use hers

Yeah but obliviously familiarize yourself with it before the exam ha

casio fx85gt plus is what I have

Crunchymomma · 03-02-2017 8:20pm

doc11 wrote: »

did you do the 30 practice questions or just the 8 before the test. Getting nowhere near the 30 right myself:pac:

The 8! The 30 were a disaster and much more difficult than anything that came up in the real thing

Copper_pipe · 03-02-2017 8:23pm

Yeah don't bother with the 30 they'll only get you annoyed.

Try and master the 8 before the test

uck51js9zml2yt · 03-02-2017 10:32pm

Did the test. Verbal was fine. Maths was tougher than expected.

Copper_pipe · 04-02-2017 1:54am

Anyone know what the next stage is after this assessment?

greenb · 04-02-2017 2:02am

Crunchymomma wrote: »

The 8! The 30 were a disaster and much more difficult than anything that came up in the real thing

Where are the "8"? can you log on, do the 8, then log out and come back and do the actual test later?...............thanks.

doc11 · 04-02-2017 2:03am

Jakeren7 · 04-02-2017 9:30am

I was under the impression u can practice the 8 first n go back n do the actual test later ??

Jakeren7 · 04-02-2017 9:32am

The next stage will be supervised tests

whatlliwear · 04-02-2017 11:31am

Does anyone know what the pass mark is? I found the test fine but I messed up as I was distracted!

Jakeren7 · 04-02-2017 12:44pm

greenb wrote: »

Where are the "8"? can you log on, do the 8, then log out and come back and do the actual test later?...............thanks.

U can do the practice and then go back in later and do the test cause I've just done it

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