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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

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  • #8432
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Killergreene wrote: »
    what did queally say about conor not paying them ?

    just that he took a load of them out and covered all their expenses - even the ones who were not directly sparring with him.


  • #8433
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    just that he took a load of them out and covered all their expenses - even the ones who were not directly sparring with him.

    I'd imagine he probably gave a bit to Connor Wallace and his boxing coach considering all the time they took out of their own training to help him out. Would only be right IMO. Wallace wouldn't really benefit much because he's definitely not going to be transitioning to MMA


  • #8434
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Lukker- wrote: »
    I'd imagine he probably gave a bit to Connor Wallace and his boxing coach considering all the time they took out of their own training to help him out. Would only be right IMO. Wallace wouldn't really benefit much because he's definitely not going to be transitioning to MMA

    You're probably right. More so his boxing coach Owen Murphy.

    As for Wallace, the benefits were incredible in my opinion.

    He forged probably life-long friendships with some of the lads - Lee Hammond and himself seem thick as thieves judging from their snapchat/instagram.

    He probably gained loyal friends in McGregor and Kavanagh and they are not bad friends to gain!

    He got to head over to Freddy Roach to do a bit of training one of the weeks as well.

    More important than all of that, the experience he got on Fight Night will stand him in great stead. He got to experience a big 17,000 crowd, the bright lights, the pressure, tension and nerves. That'll all stand to him for the future in his own career.

    You could tell he was about to puke from the nerves backstage and he wasn't even fighting! Hell, the first time i saw Roddys VLOG i nearly puked myself from the comfort of my bedroom!!

    Not many young boxers will ever get that experience in their life. 8 weeks in the sun, getting a feel for what it's like at the very top of sport.

    So i'd say it was a life changing experience for him. Funny how life works, he was one win away from being in the Olympics yet this experience may ultimately be more valuable to him.

    The only arguable "loser" in the whole experience was John Michael Sheil. And by that i mean they all were winners getting that trip. On the night before the fight, JMS went on Twitter and Facebook saying "great news i've got the best seat in the house, i've just been told i'm in Conors corner for the fight".

    For whatever reason, that tweet came down after about 4 hours and Connor Wallace then got the shout to be a corner-man.

    Sheil actually deactivated his Twitter for a few days over the whole thing. Worse, he was doing a lot of training in SBG Concorde before Vegas - since they all got home he has moved permanently to SBG Tallaght.

    No idea if there was a falling out but sure may as well speculate and say possibly! :pac:


  • #8435
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    You're probably right. More so his boxing coach Owen Murphy.

    As for Wallace, the benefits were incredible in my opinion.

    He forged probably life-long friendships with some of the lads - Lee Hammond and himself seem thick as thieves judging from their snapchat/instagram.

    He probably gained loyal friends in McGregor and Kavanagh and they are not bad friends to gain!

    He got to head over to Freddy Roach to do a bit of training one of the weeks as well.

    More important than all of that, the experience he got on Fight Night will stand him in great stead. He got to experience a big 17,000 crowd, the bright lights, the pressure, tension and nerves. That'll all stand to him for the future in his own career.

    You could tell he was about to puke from the nerves backstage and he wasn't even fighting! Hell, the first time i saw Roddys VLOG i nearly puked myself from the comfort of my bedroom!!

    Not many young boxers will ever get that experience in their life. 8 weeks in the sun, getting a feel for what it's like at the very top of sport.

    So i'd say it was a life changing experience for him. Funny how life works, he was one win away from being in the Olympics yet this experience may ultimately be more valuable to him.

    The only arguable "loser" in the whole experience was John Michael Sheil. And by that i mean they all were winners getting that trip. On the night before the fight, JMS went on Twitter and Facebook saying "great news i've got the best seat in the house, i've just been told i'm in Conors corner for the fight".

    For whatever reason, that tweet came down after about 4 hours and Connor Wallace then got the shout to be a corner-man.

    Sheil actually deactivated his Twitter for a few days over the whole thing. Worse, he was doing a lot of training in SBG Concorde before Vegas - since they all got home he has moved permanently to SBG Tallaght.

    No idea if there was a falling out but sure may as well speculate and say possibly! :pac:

    I'd say it's more to do with he has more opportunity coaching wise in Tallaght. Concorde is probably already a full house coaching wise unless someone truly great comes along, whereas Tallaght is growing still.

    He hasn't fought in 4 years and I doubt he ever will again. For his career, just being Conor's training cone would probably get boring after a while. I don't think there is any bad blood between the two but I'm sure he would have disappointed not being in his corner, like anyone.


  • #8436
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    any news on the tom egan ''beef''?


    Is he still distanced from the John and Conor on social media?


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  • #8437
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Gamebred wrote: »
    any news on the tom egan ''beef''?


    Is he still distanced from the John and Conor on social media?

    ha. John isn't following him on Twitter anymore and gave a pretty gruff reply when asked about him a few weeks ago in an interview.

    Mind you i think Kavanagh did say in this very thread to be careful about speculating on stuff we haven't a notion about :pac:

    Sure what else would we be doing at quarter-to-1 at night than contemplating their friendship lol.

    I think we'll get our answer in the next 18 days. If he's nowhere near NY i'd have to conclude all is not well. It's a 4 hour spin from downtown NY to Boston so i'm sure all being well Tom will be there again.

    Of course, it may be as simple as Egan being very busy with his own career - coaching and fighting .....but that doesn't make an entertaining conspiracy story :)


  • #8438
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,188 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Just watched this there. Someone kindly posted it earlier.

    Just epic. Beautifully put together little video. Feel more proud of 'Conor' having watched it.



  • #8439
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Just watched this there. Someone kindly posted it earlier.

    Just epic. Beautifully put together little video. Feel more proud of 'Conor' having watched it.


    If you liked that, you will also love this.

    I prefer this one myself, purely because you can see the tension written all over the lads backstage even clearer.

    Dillon looked fit to puke, Connor Wallace likewise.

    The coolest on the outside is Kavanagh but he did say he does be a wreck on the inside at times.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufr-zurcO0Q


  • #8440
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    have to love the ref talking to Artem and he goes:

    "so all that other crazy b...." and stopped himself from saying bullsh1t in nick of time haha.

    Just after the 2 minute mark in the above video.


  • #8441
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    You see the severe notorious crew recording him and have been for years near fights yet the footage is no where to be seen?


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  • #8442
    Killergreene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 431 ✭✭Killergreene


    I don't think queally deserved to be reimbursed for his time anyway. He got a free holiday and free tickets to one of the biggest ufc events of all time. He should have been thankful with his lot. He didn't do any sparring with conor anyway from what I heard. Just watched the big boys train and wrapped his mitts and hit the speed bag and the treadmill a few times on his own. All he did was take someone else's seat on the plane.


  • #8443
    Killergreene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 431 ✭✭Killergreene


    I'd imagine money had a big thing to do with the falling out between kavanagh conor and Egan. Egan was the first to fight in ufc let's not forget. I don't want to say too much more but it's obvious what happened.


  • #8444
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Killergreene wrote: »
    I'd imagine money had a big thing to do with the falling out between kavanagh conor and Egan. Egan was the first to fight in ufc let's not forget. I don't want to say too much more but it's obvious what happened.

    Can't say 100% in life but there's a very high chance without Tom Egan there is no MMA superstar McGregor.

    He might have become a boxer but sure it was meeting Tom in school in Lucan that got him fascinated with MMA and heading down to Johns gym.


  • #8445
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Killergreene wrote: »
    I don't think queally deserved to be reimbursed for his time anyway. He got a free holiday and free tickets to one of the biggest ufc events of all time. He should have been thankful with his lot. He didn't do any sparring with conor anyway from what I heard. Just watched the big boys train and wrapped his mitts and hit the speed bag and the treadmill a few times on his own. All he did was take someone else's seat on the plane.

    There are loads of videos of Queally and McGregor sparring pre UFC 196 and UFC 202. You've got a serious chip on your shoulder regarding people travelling to events?
    Killergreene wrote: »
    I'd imagine money had a big thing to do with the falling out between kavanagh conor and Egan. Egan was the first to fight in ufc let's not forget. I don't want to say too much more but it's obvious what happened.

    Do tell.

    Why would he be looking for money? He's lived out on his own in Boston for the last 6 years because he wanted to get out of Ireland. Why should anyone be offering him money?


  • #8446
    Richard tea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Can someone just put it in laymans terms what the story is with T.Egan and Kav,Conor.


  • #8447
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Richard tea wrote: »
    Can someone just put it in laymans terms what the story is with T.Egan and Kav,Conor.

    Historical version: Tom Egan befriends McGregor when he moved to Lucan, got him into martial arts, was first UFC fighter from Dublin.

    Recent version with speculation:

    Egan was involved in the Chad Mendes fight camp and as one of the coaches on The Ultimate Fighter 22.

    He turned up for the first Diaz fight but wasn't involved in the first or 2nd Diaz camp or the Alvarez camp.

    He lives in Boston so that's one factor. He's also not a tall southpaw.

    But the hint is that he's fallen out with John Kavanagh..... Kavanagh was directly asked i think by either Lydia Des Dolles or Jonathan Shrager why Egan not involved recently and he couldn't change the subject fast enough.

    Note: That's all speculation!! (just in case the Godfather K is on the prowl reading this!)


  • #8448
    Richard tea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Historical version: Tom Egan befriends McGregor when he moved to Lucan, got him into martial arts, was first UFC fighter from Dublin.

    Recent version with speculation:

    Egan was involved in the Chad Mendes fight camp and as one of the coaches on The Ultimate Fighter 22.

    He turned up for the first Diaz fight but wasn't involved in the first or 2nd Diaz camp or the Alvarez camp.

    He lives in Boston so that's one factor. He's also not a tall southpaw.

    But the hint is that he's fallen out with John Kavanagh..... Kavanagh was directly asked i think by either Lydia Des Dolles or Jonathan Shrager why Egan not involved recently and he couldn't change the subject fast enough.

    Note: That's all speculation!! (just in case the Godfather K is on the prowl reading this!)

    Ok so far so good but why the fallout? That reads to me that it was decided that Tom was not required for the training camps and this peeved him off?


  • #8449
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Richard tea wrote: »
    Ok so far so good but why the fallout? That reads to me that it was decided that Tom was not required for the training camps and this peeved him off?

    No idea man. I just interpreted Kavanaghs interview answer as they fell-out. They're no longer "Twitter friends" if that means anything at all lmao.

    Tom was a big part of most of Conors fight camps right up to the Aldo fight. He lives in Boston which obviously isn't handy for training in Dublin. But he was happy out to spend last summer in Vegas with the team.

    No idea what went on. If anything! Egan is doing his own fighting and coaching in Boston so it might just be pure nothing. Kavanaghs answer smelled fishy though. I'll try hunt down the clip on youtube :)


  • #8450
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,379 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    jesus lads, you aren't making the catch ups easy anymore.

    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Biased commentary in all sports doesn't do particular fans a dis-service. It does the sport a dis-service.

    Rogan is a fan first and foremost. He may be slightly bias, and doesn't deny that. He admits that it gets the better of him at time. And what harm in that. It doesn't affect the outcome of the fight.

    He's certainly less biased than people posting. And I'm referring to everyone to some extent.
    The reason commentators try to remain impartial is because they owe a duty to their sport to try give all new and casual fans the chance to enjoy the sport. The last thing Sky Sports want is a new fan to tune in for Manchester United v Liverpool with Martin Tyler talking in a monotone when Liverpool attack but shrieking with excitement anytime Man Utd go forward.

    Soccer commentators aren't impartial.

    If you watch international football matches on RTE vrs BBC you'll get two different versions of the match. Same in most sports, the Olympics etc. Why should MMA be any different.
    Gamebred wrote: »
    I see Alvarez has brought in the Brazilian Jonas Bilharinho to mimic McGregor

    That worked out well for Aldo
    They made a big deal out of sparring with Bilharinho at the time. But something that I recently found out, that I don't remember being mentioned by his camp. Was that Aldo brought in a new BJJ coach for his match with Conor, an IBJJF world champion (those watching TUF will be aware of this now). Something I found interesting.
    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    I'd imagine so. Even at lower levels of UFC.
    I think people make way too big a deal over bringing someone in.

    I read the other day the Tyron Woodley was bringing in Sage Northcutt to prep for Wonderboy. :eek:

    Gamebred wrote: »
    Did he say 7%?


  • #8451
    ASOT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,764 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Gamebred wrote: »
    She was planted there for the publicity though.

    Not sure if your taking the piss but its my mates niece she wasnt.


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  • #8452
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    Mellor wrote: »
    jesus lads, you aren't making the catch ups easy anymore.




    Rogan is a fan first and foremost. He may be slightly bias, and doesn't deny that. He admits that it gets the better of him at time. And what harm in that. It doesn't affect the outcome of the fight.

    He's certainly less biased than people posting. And I'm referring to everyone to some extent.


    Soccer commentators aren't impartial.

    If you watch international football matches on RTE vrs BBC you'll get two different versions of the match. Same in most sports, the Olympics etc. Why should MMA be any different.


    They made a big deal out of sparring with Bilharinho at the time. But something that I recently found out, that I don't remember being mentioned by his camp. Was that Aldo brought in a new BJJ coach for his match with Conor, an IBJJF world champion (those watching TUF will be aware of this now). Something I found interesting.



    I'd imagine so. Even at lower levels of UFC.
    I think people make way too big a deal over bringing someone in.

    I read the other day the Tyron Woodley was bringing in Sage Northcutt to prep for Wonderboy. :eek:



    Did he say 7%?


    Aldo's camp told the Brazillian media after 194 that their plan was to wrestle Conor for 5 rounds. Wanted none of him on the feet.


  • #8453
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,340 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Conor still hasn't applied for, let alone been granted a license for 205, cutting it a bit fine aren't they?

    He will have to clear his fine to get the go ahead which is obviously going to be drawn out due to his public, "good luck trying to get the money off me" jibe.

    Reckon they are trying to put the squeeze on the UFC to cover the fine for him?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #8454
    JohnSBG
    Company Representative Posts: 64 Verified rep ✭JohnSBG


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    I really like that Kavanagh pops in here pure casual like. Good to keep it like that too (an AMA or the like would attract attention and ruin it!). Ireland is the best country in the world for being famous as people just leave you the hell alone. Needs to work on punctuation though. :D Also, would be interesting to be fed some tidbits on camp or some insights on MMA etc.

    I'll work on it.

    The conspiracy theories give me too much entertainment to squash, keep em coming 😅


  • #8455
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    JohnSBG wrote: »
    I'll work on it.

    The conspiracy theories give me too much entertainment to squash, keep em coming 😅

    You should go bump Conor's old call-out thread from years ago.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056446232

    Better still, get himself to login and bump it!

    Watch boards melt down.


  • #8456
    dashoonage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    You should go bump Conor's old call-out thread from years ago.

    Better still, ask himself to login and bump it.

    Watch boards melt down.

    That would be hilarious if you could get him to log back into boards and verify it....the internet would actually break....Gamebred wouldnt be able to handle it.


  • #8457
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Conor still hasn't applied for, let alone been granted a license for 205, cutting it a bit fine aren't they?

    He will have to clear his fine to get the go ahead which is obviously going to be drawn out due to his public, "good luck trying to get the money off me" jibe.

    Reckon they are trying to put the squeeze on the UFC to cover the fine for him?

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/other/could-conor-mcgregor-be-refused-a-licence-to-fight-in-new-york-for-ufc-205-761003.html
    A statement from the commission read: “Conor McGregor has not yet completed his application to the New York State Athletic Commission for a licence, nor, to our knowledge, has he agreed to the fine levied by Nevada or exercised an appeal.
    “It is also our understanding that the time within which Mr McGregor may seek a legal challenge to the Nevada Order has not yet expired.
    “An administrative fine without a concurrent suspension is not a mandatory bar to licensure.

    “The New York State Athletic Commission expects its licensees to resolve disciplinary actions and comply with lawful final orders issued by the states in which they have chosen to compete, and will be closely monitoring this matter.”

    This is muddying the waters a bit - on one hand, "an administrative fine without a concurrent suspension is not a mandatory bar to licensure", but on the other hand "New York State Athletic Commission expects its licensees to resolve disciplinary actions".

    Article suggests that the simplest thing for McGregor is to lodge an appeal, and that way NYSAC can let him go ahead while the appeal is ongoing.

    It could certainly f*ck him up going forward though if he decides not to pay. That statement makes it sound very much like the different SACs stick together and enforce eachothers' rulings, regardless of the fact that they are separate organisations.


  • #8458
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    JohnSBG wrote: »
    I'll work on it.

    The conspiracy theories give me too much entertainment to squash, keep em coming 😅

    So surreal.


  • #8459
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/other/could-conor-mcgregor-be-refused-a-licence-to-fight-in-new-york-for-ufc-205-761003.html



    This is muddying the waters a bit - on one hand, "an administrative fine without a concurrent suspension is not a mandatory bar to licensure", but on the other hand "New York State Athletic Commission expects its licensees to resolve disciplinary actions".

    Article suggests that the simplest thing for McGregor is to lodge an appeal, and that way NYSAC can let him go ahead while the appeal is ongoing.

    It could certainly f*ck him up going forward though if he decides not to pay. That statement makes it sound very much like the different SACs stick together and enforce eachothers' rulings, regardless of the fact that they are separate organisations.

    And so they should, for any fighter. He needs to bite the bullet, pay up for his indiscretions and move on.


  • #8460
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Posted this on the UFC 205 thread but just so you are all aware and take note..

    Another McGregor event on the horizon. This usually means a few things happen..

    1. We get an influx of new posters - fans and haters alike. If someone is out of line just report it, do not get into back and forth with them.

    2. A lot of you let it go to your head and get over excited by the whole thing. Think before you post, whether its about fighters or replying to someones post. Basically have some common sense.

    3. Some of you decide to report every comment that is anti McGregor or when someone says something you dont like. This is not the McGregor appreciation forum - people are allowed have opinions, as long as they follow the rules of boards and the forum charter there is no reason to be reporting people unnecessarily, it makes extra work for us and you stand out as someone looking to get others banned for no reason which does you no favours.

    The forum gets extra busy and the mods dont have time to be dealing with the added muppetry. If people are stepping out of line, acting the idiot or trolling then expect to be taking a break from the forum till after the fight. Consider that advanced warning and dont bother crying over pm if you get banned for clearly stepping out of line.

    So keep it civil, enjoy the build up and the fight and keep the acting the muppet to a minimum so everyone else can enjoy it too..

    Cheers


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  • #8461
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    JohnSBG wrote: »
    I'll work on it.

    The conspiracy theories give me too much entertainment to squash, keep em coming 😅

    So we can interpret from your non-answer the following:

    Yourself and Tom Egan are no longer best buddies (or never were). John Michael Sheil has been exiled into the wilderness of SBG Tallaght. The little lady was planted outside Smithfield Medical with no phone so that Conor could capitalise on some positive spin. Your sister left SBG due to a secret corporate takeover and re-structuring. Dr. Julian Dalby did, in fact, obtain his medical degree from the Dr. Nick 'Simpsons School of Medicine'. JK Rowling based Harry Potter on a premonition of James Gallagher. Dillon Danis is, in fact, 36 years old.

    A brief comment/denial on the Flat Earth, Chemtrails and illuminati please?


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