SFC Final - Dublin v Mayo - Read Mod Note in post #1 & #1393

Amprodude · 18-09-2016 05:59PM

alchemist33 wrote: »

Indeed they were both at it by then. But Connolly seemed to start it

That's the third time keegan has got the better of Connolly in a championship game. Must be frustrating for connolly

DJIMI TRARORE · 18-09-2016 06:02PM

The game had everything u cud want, except the basic skills. Low quality football but still exciting nuf to watch,dublin only scoring 6 pts from play,no-one would've called that

TCDStudent1 · 18-09-2016 06:02PM

Amprodude wrote: »

That's the third time keegan has got the better of Connolly in a championship game. Must be frustrating for connolly

Did Keegan get the better of him though? I felt Connolly did some very good things today - dispossessed Mayo player a few times, his ball for the second goal, had a few good runs. On the other hand, I dont think Keegan was as influential for Mayo today as he has been in some other matches.

Amprodude · 18-09-2016 06:04PM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Did Keegan get the better of him though? I felt Connolly did some very good things today - dispossessed Mayo player a few times, his ball for the second goal, had a few good runs. On the other hand, I dont think Keegan was as influential for Mayo today as he has been in some other matches.

He beat him one on one I thought. Connolly got 1 point from play. Poor for a player of his class.

Lucy8080 · 18-09-2016 06:05PM

I might be in the minority here, but I was delighted to see Connolly go for the point.

Turn- overs were at a premium on both ends of the pitch given the conditions.

A two point lead would have forced mayo to go for a goal with less than a minute left...they would have been lucky to get out of their own half then...no player is going to worry about taking a card in Mayos half in such circumstances and the defence would be so packed it would be game over.

Dublin have all Ireland medals because they are not afraid to try and win the game. At least we now know what would have happened because Dublin took on the shot rather than keep possesion ...it's exciting for fans and neutrals .

Fortune favours the brave.

Contrast this with Mayo...they show how good they are when they have no choice but to go for the game...5 points down and with nothing to lose they start dominating the game.

This Dublin team don't get white line fever...they are brave and are prepared to live with a miss, rather than live with regrets.

I think it breeds confidence and makes them exciting to watch.

More importantly...it has brought them rewards.

Aidan O' Shea should also be forgiven for his misses...he backed himself , and fair play to him.

Cillian O'Connor backed himself for the equaliser...and what a score that was!

Credit to both teams for delivering an exciting ,fascinating game in such unhelpful conditions.

Hope it's a dry day in two weeks.

TCDStudent1 · 18-09-2016 06:06PM

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

The game had everything u cud want, except the basic skills. Low quality football but still exciting nuf to watch,dublin only scoring 6 pts from play,no-one would've called that

Yeah, the quality was very poor today. Some very poor wides from players like McManaman, Rock & Kilkenny for Dublin. While the same can be said for a few Mayo players. However, you have to say the matches between these 2 teams are always tense and intriguing. I am delighted we get to see another round of it. In years to come, we will take about these Dublin - Mayo matches. I hope the next day will be a higher quality game though because I believe both teams are capable of playing better

dwayneshintzy · 18-09-2016 06:06PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

think Mayo are the only team to ever shown that resilience against this Dublin team in the last 5 years.

Donegal were 0-8 to 0-3 down against Dublin in 2014...

brocbrocach · 18-09-2016 06:07PM

Paddy Durkan or Donal Vaughan for Motm i'd say if Carney has any say in it.
Thought Johnny Cooper was very good as well.

Dyr · 18-09-2016 06:07PM

I said before the match the one thing I was worried about was the ref, and if its the same officials in the replay I would worry for dublin. It was abyssmal

The mcarthy non black card had an immediate mayo drag down after it in front of lane and he just waved play on

TCDStudent1 · 18-09-2016 06:08PM

Lucy8080 wrote: »

I might be in the minority here, but I was delighted to see Connolly go for the point.

Turn- overs were at a premium on both ends of the pitch given the conditions.

A two point lead would have forced mayo to go for a goal with less than a minute left...they would have been lucky to get out of their own half then...no player is going to worry about taking a card in Mayos half in such circumstances and the defence would be so packed it would be game over.

Dublin have all Ireland medals because they are not afraid to try and win the game. At least we now know what would have happened because Dublin took on the shot rather than keep possesion ...it's exciting for fans and neutrals .

Fortune favours the brave.

Contrast this with Mayo...they show how good they are when they have no choice but to go for the game...5 points down and with nothing to lose they start dominating the game.

This Dublin team don't get white line fever...they are brave and are prepared to live with a miss, rather than live with regrets.

I think it breeds confidence and makes them exciting to watch.

More importantly...it has brought them rewards.

Aidan O' Shea should also be forgiven for his misses...he backed himself , and fair play to him.

Cillian O'Connor backed himself for the equaliser...and what a score that was!

Credit to both teams for delivering an exciting ,fascinating game in such unhelpful conditions.

Hope it's a dry day in two weeks.

You need to be smart though. Would O'Connor have gone for a point from O'Se's position? I think he would have been smart enough not to.

CurryFlavoured · 18-09-2016 06:10PM

brocbrocach wrote: »

Paddy Durkan or Donal Vaughan for Motm i'd say if Carney has any say in it.
Thought Johnny Cooper was very good as well.

John Small by a mile.

rebel girl 15 · 18-09-2016 06:11PM

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

John Small by a mile.

Played very well, took his point when the chance came

BonnieSituation · 18-09-2016 06:12PM

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

John Small by a mile.

Yup. Just about to post that. No doubt for me.

TheRiverman · 18-09-2016 06:16PM

Good refereeing and the proper use of cards is the only way to deal with Connolly,opposing players that wind him up and all other rule breaking incidents that happen during games.That did not happen today,and hasn't happened on many other days.

Paranoid Mandroid · 18-09-2016 06:18PM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

tanko wrote: »

I really didnt think it was harsh. He clearly barged into O'Connor who didnt have the ball. If he didnt take O'Connor out of it, then O'Connor could have pressured Kilkenny who was on the ball.

LOL such crap. Look at it again, terrible decision, I'm delighted Mccarthy will get another day out.

TCDStudent1 · 18-09-2016 06:19PM

TheRiverman wrote: »

Good refereeing and the proper use of cards is the only way to deal with Connolly,opposing players that wind him up and all other rule breaking incidents that happen during games.That did not happen today,and hasn't happened on many other days.

Looking at the replay of McLoughlins OG, I think Keegan may have been a little lucky not to be black-carded there. It looks like a very cynical pull down of Connolly off the ball and stopped him from making a run.

Say Your Number · 18-09-2016 06:20PM

Haha that Mayo fan on the news, just not able to to put that game into words

TCDStudent1 · 18-09-2016 06:21PM

Paranoid Mandroid wrote: »

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

LOL such crap. Look at it again, terrible decision, I'm delighted Mccarthy will get another day out.

Yeah, you could be right. I wouldnt have paid any heed if the ref let it go. And I am also happy McCarthy gets another chance.

The Talking Bread · 18-09-2016 06:25PM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Donegal were 0-8 to 0-3 down against Dublin in 2014...

touche! Still doesn't mean it isn't a brilliant feat by Mayo to break down leads from this Dublin team like today. Its a rarity, Dublin crack like that

18-09-2016 06:27PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Massive composure to come back from 5 points down and then 3 points down. I think Mayo are the only team to ever shown that resilience against this Dublin team in the last 5 years.

Got stung by those freakish goals (but they have to accept most of the blame for them) but that last 5/6 minutes was exceptional, even though Dublin played it into their hands a bit

Thats true. They mixed the good with the bad. Like the old nursery rhyme 'When they were good they were really good, but when they were bad they were horrid'

The Talking Bread · 18-09-2016 06:30PM

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

John Small by a mile.

oh give over! He may well get it but "by a mile" is extremely hyperbolic. But probably was your best player.

Still going to go for Vaughan. RTE panel will undoubtedly give it to a Mayo man.

Lucy8080 · 18-09-2016 06:34PM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

You need to be smart though. Would O'Connor have gone for a point from O'Se's position? I think he would have been smart enough not to.

It's debatable alright. But O'shea is more than capable of scoring from those positions.More than one Dublin player today was missing chances from angles they scored versus kerry. They weren't percentage shots ( v. kerry) but they were the winning of the game.

It's frustrating I guess for both stets of fans when it's a miss ...but these type of players win tight games

I do take the point though.

I believe that Mayo fans would like to see O'Shea keep backing himself, ( even though today's misses might have had them swearing under their breath).

tomwaits48 · 18-09-2016 06:36PM

The anti Dublin commentary was hilarious

Dyr · 18-09-2016 06:36PM

Are we calling those two goals freak occurrences now?

Odd because the Mayo defence being opened like lemons just before both must have just been coinkydinks

Dr. Bre · 18-09-2016 06:41PM

Dubs won't be so bad Mayo missed chance

18-09-2016 06:43PM

Fascinating contest. Rather than neither team deserving to lose it was really a case of neither side doing enough to win. Difficult conditions, huge intensity and some awful options taken on both sides. The big concern I have with Mayo is that like last year when the game was there to be won they didn't grasp it but when they were behind and had nothing to lose they played some great stuff and caused Dublin problems. Showing the mentality to go for the kill when on top is the obstacle Mayo need to get over if they are to finish the job.

I think Diarmuid Connolly has huge questions to answer, Ciaran Kilkenny was the only Dublin forward to deliver to any great extent today and generally he showed good composure in possession. Connolly's Hail Mary kick reminded me of Cork in the hurling in 2013. Going for a high risk score when running the clock down was the right decision.

I'd still fancy Dublin for the next day. I can't see them performing as bad again. A huge amount of credit is due to Mayo's intensity as it rattled Dublin out of their comfort zone. Both sides have a huge amount to work on. So many heroic performances from Mayo today but a lot of big names made no real impact on the contest. From 10-15 Kilkenny aside Dublin were woeful.

PeterTheNinth · 18-09-2016 06:44PM

Is anybody listening to Keith Barr on The Marty Squad. He's not prepared to say Dublin played poorly. Justifies it on the basis that they were five points up at half time, even though it was pointed out to him that Mayo scored six of those points for them.

Heffoman · 18-09-2016 06:44PM

For all the winding up of Connolly he gets away with an awful lot. Got away with a fairly obvious black card later on then struck Lee Keegan a few times in the face in their tussle.

Heffoman · 18-09-2016 06:46PM

Bambi wrote: »

Are we calling those two goals freak occurrences now?

Odd because the Mayo defence being opened like lemons just before both must have just been coinkydinks

Are you saying two own goals from two shots not even on target were not freak occurrences? Something that has never happened in an all Ireland final before.

Dyr · 18-09-2016 06:49PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Is anybody listening to Keith Barr on The Marty Squad. He's not prepared to say Dublin played poorly. Justifies it on the basis that they were five points up at half time, even though it was pointed out to him that Mayo scored six of those points for them.

Barrs a nutter, dont take him too seriously

I'll repeat this for the hard of hearing

Bambi wrote: »

Are we calling those two goals freak occurrences now?

Odd because the Mayo defence being opened like lemons just before both must have just been coinkydinks

Is "Only for us scoring goals against ourselves" going to be added to the list of Mayo "Only for XYZ" excuses

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SFC Final - Dublin v Mayo - Read Mod Note in post #1 & #1393