General Star Trek thread

24-07-2016 08:38AM

Myrddin wrote: »

Also demonstrated on screen in Encounter at Farpoint I think (it certainly separated at warp, not sure if it showed the saucer continuing on at warp, I think it did though?). That wouldn't be independent warp speed though, it needed the stardrive section to get to that speed in the first place.

Oh very true.
Just checked it there. Maintain high warp for up to two minutes, using the impulse engines to maintain the field

AMKC · 24-07-2016 11:56AM

ForstalDave wrote: »

was thinking that can see why they never separated much it was kinda a pointless feature

The reason they did not do it more was the cost of doing it was quite high. Its not like they could have reused the few clips they had of it separating as one was above a planet and the other when they were fighting the Borg.

ForstalDave · 25-07-2016 08:13AM

AMKC wrote: »

The reason they did not do it more was the cost of doing it was quite high. Its not like they could have reused the few clips they had of it separating as one was above a planet and the other when they were fighting the Borg.

I doubt the cost would have been massove the main clips of it separating focus on up close linkage between the sections, id reckon it was more to do with finding a seituation a situation where it would be usefull

squonk · 25-07-2016 08:59AM

I liked that it was something that wasn't used that often. It was definitely a less is more kind of thing. When you heard Picard order saucer separation you knew that some serious sh1t was about to go down. Even better it necessitated the command staff hitting the battle bridge so you had a large civilian ship suddenly turn into a nimble little warship.

25-07-2016 09:06AM

Here was one use... Odyssey going through the wormhole!!

_Kaiser_ · 25-07-2016 09:38AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Here was one use... Odyssey going through the wormhole!!

True but remember at that stage they had no idea that their shields and weapons would be so ineffective against the Jem'Hadar fighters. The Galaxy Class was top of the line at that point and the equal (or better) of most ships in the Alpha Quadrant

Plus Captain Keogh was a bit of an arrogant ass.. but at least he did offload the civilians/non-essential personnel at DS9 before they left as I recall.

25-07-2016 10:14AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

True but remember at that stage they had no idea that their shields and weapons would be so ineffective against the Jem'Hadar fighters. The Galaxy Class was top of the line at that point and the equal (or better) of most ships in the Alpha Quadrant

Plus Captain Keogh was a bit of an arrogant ass.. but at least he did offload the civilians/non-essential personnel at DS9 before they left as I recall.

If you're offloading civilians and expecting a fight, why bother with the Saucer at all?

_Kaiser_ · 25-07-2016 10:23AM

Deleted User wrote: »

If you're offloading civilians and expecting a fight, why bother with the Saucer at all?

Maybe Keogh didn't like the chairs on the battle bridge?

You'd presume there was some reason though otherwise likewise in the Dominion war all those new Galaxy's should have been stardrive sections only. Additional power from the saucer's impulse drive or something?

The real reason of course is that, expense of the shots aside, the whole ship looks better as one unit on camera

ForstalDave · 25-07-2016 10:27AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Maybe Keogh didn't like the chairs on the battle bridge?

You'd presume there was some reason though otherwise likewise in the Dominion war all those new Galaxy's should have been stardrive sections only. Additional power from the saucer's impulse drive or something?

The real reason of course is that, expense of the shots aside, the whole ship looks better as one unit on camera

I suppose they would make good troop transporters during war could seperate and have the saucer deliver troops while the stardrive section covers them

helimachoptor · 25-07-2016 10:29AM

just realised when watching yesterday that Chris Hemsworth was Jims dad on the Kelvin

25-07-2016 10:42AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Maybe Keogh didn't like the chairs on the battle bridge?

You'd presume there was some reason though otherwise likewise in the Dominion war all those new Galaxy's should have been stardrive sections only. Additional power from the saucer's impulse drive or something?

The real reason of course is that, expense of the shots aside, the whole ship looks better as one unit on camera

The Saucer has very powerful fusion engines, wider arc phasers (stronger too I think) but in universe yeah. they should have left the saucers at home

Beefy78 · 25-07-2016 12:11PM

Yeah the main phasers are on the Saucer. It can separate for strategic reasons but you're weakening the ship if you do it.

25-07-2016 01:05PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

Yeah the main phasers are on the Saucer. It can separate for strategic reasons but you're weakening the ship if you do it.

The Stardrive is faster, more agile and stronger sheilds (from not having to generate a shield around the saucer) IIRC.
More than pays off for the phaser decrease

Beefy78 · 25-07-2016 01:57PM

I don't know. If I'm going into a fight I want my phasers.

Does this mean that the Saucer doesn't have shields??

25-07-2016 02:06PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

I don't know. If I'm going into a fight I want my phasers.

Does this mean that the Saucer doesn't have shields??

It has but doesn't have the warp engines for extra power.

The drive section has phasers but the firing arc is not as wide

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 25-07-2016 07:26PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe7oW0IDCIc

D0NNELLY · 25-07-2016 07:28PM

helimachoptor wrote: »

just realised when watching yesterday that Chris Hemsworth was Jims dad on the Kelvin

He's due to make a reappearance.. can't remember if it's beyond or the next one

AtomicHorror · 25-07-2016 08:42PM

D0NNELLY wrote: »

He's due to make a reappearance.. can't remember if it's beyond or the next one

Next one, though they haven't said in what capacity he'll appear.

The Black Oil · 26-07-2016 08:32PM

Would like to take a few weeks off work to binge DS9...

Beefy78 · 27-07-2016 07:40PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

Yeah I remember quite enjoying that episode and thought that the concept was good. I'm going to start a Voyager watch soon. I think there's almost certainly a few episodes that I've never seen in the middle there somewhere..

Well it took three years and ten months..... But I finished Voyager just now! Yay.

_Tombstone_ · 27-07-2016 10:37PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

Well it took three years and ten months..... But I finished Voyager just now! Yay.

I asked this last August...

_Tombstone_ wrote: »

Is DS9 worth watching? I couldn't take to it when it first came out.

Myrddin wrote: »

Do it, now.

And just finished up the other day. I really liked it. Odo...hated his character all those years ago but this time round I liked him, and Quark and Neris and Garak and Rom...they're all brilliant.

A bit to religiously at times but great Series, I miss the Characters now, the Baseball ep against the Vulcans was brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-pSg1PbPa8

press play at 3.35...odos face at 3.45

:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnQ-U0Ovgks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1poDRuaMdY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVOQYsGvj3c

27-07-2016 11:46PM

_Tombstone_ wrote: »

I asked this last August...

A bit to religiously at times but great Series, I miss the Characters now, the Baseball ep against the Vulcans was brilliant.

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Which season and episode was that episode?