Immigration Control Officer - Dublin Airport

JobHunter2000 · 10-06-2016 2:45pm #1

Hello,

Public Jobs has advertised the above position. It looks like a very interesting role and has a shift allowance too.

Has anyone else gone for this?

JH.

uck51js9zml2yt · 10-06-2016 9:11pm

Looks an interesting role but the money is really poor for entry level and the shift work. Even 25% allowance brings it to just over 500 a week.

gezz36 · 10-06-2016 10:27pm

Looks like a great job, would be really interesting to do...pay would suit if travel was not a big cost...rules it out for me. Go for it, if nothing else would be great experience on a CV if you wanted to keep looking for something better paid.

Shane Fitz · 11-06-2016 11:48am

Lia Shaggy Knickers wrote: »

Looks an interesting role but the money is really poor for entry level and the shift work. Even 25% allowance brings it to just over 500 a week.

Where did you find the pay scale??

Slydice · 11-06-2016 1:05pm

The job is advertised on publicjobs.ie here:
https://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/campaignAdvert/31597.htm

The pay and conditions are detailed in the Information booklet

Closing Date for Applications
16/06/2016

Shane Fitz · 11-06-2016 1:20pm

Slydice wrote: »

The job is advertised on publicjobs.ie here:
https://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/campaignAdvert/31597.htm

The pay and conditions are detailed in the Information booklet

Closing Date for Applications
16/06/2016

No they're not. It menylons Tue entry point but the only actual figures are regarding the pension contributions at each point of the scale

Shane Fitz · 11-06-2016 1:22pm

Slydice wrote: »

The job is advertised on publicjobs.ie here:
https://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/campaignAdvert/31597.htm

The pay and conditions are detailed in the Information booklet

Closing Date for Applications
16/06/2016

No they're not. It mentions the entry point but the only actual figures are regarding the pension contributions at each point of the scale

Slydice · 11-06-2016 4:00pm

Page 7:

Salary
Clerical Officer Personal Pension Contribution (PPC) as of 01 January 2016
€419.29 €447.97 €455.27 €469.48 €490.46 €511.39 €532.33
€553.25 €573.62 €593.99 €608.33 €628.49 €648.53 €679.78NMAX

€704.35 €715.62
LSI1 LSI2

That's the weekly wages.

Multiply by 52 to get the annual salary.

The phrase 'Personal Pension Contribution (PPC) as of 01 January 2016' means that's the pension scheme that the job will be a part of.

Shane Fitz · 11-06-2016 4:30pm

Never seen public service pay scales like that. How can they do it that way, when depending on your tax obligation everyone is different. I assume that the gross weekly. Usually they are the annual salary at each point of the scale.
Thanks for that

Dr Strange · 11-06-2016 4:39pm

I have seen a similar if not the same weekly pay scale advertised for attendant jobs in the National Museum.

uck51js9zml2yt · 11-06-2016 5:37pm

It's a clerical officers job so starts at 419 pw + 25% shift allowance.

TallGlass · 11-06-2016 5:44pm

Anyway not to pushed on the pay, I'm in a well paid job at the moment but fùcking hate it.

Rather enjoy my work and get reasonable pay. Always a chance for promotion in these gigs, if anything passenger numbers on the rise.

These applications with the questions are a bit long winded. Is that not the whole idea of an interview? Also wonder if they are taking many people on.

Slydice · 11-06-2016 6:51pm

Hrmmmm, €419.29 * 52 = 21803.08

That feels a bit low. If anyone is going for this competition, it might not be any harm just getting in touch with publicjobs and double checking the salary scale.

Slydice · 11-06-2016 6:53pm

Shane Fitz wrote: »

Never seen public service pay scales like that. How can they do it that way, when depending on your tax obligation everyone is different. I assume that the gross weekly. Usually they are the annual salary at each point of the scale.
Thanks for that

I'm not familiar with the how/why they came to advertise the way they do. I've just seen a lot of their advertisements and that's how they do them.

griffin100 · 11-06-2016 8:06pm

Lower paid public sector pay scales are often given in gross weekly salary. Have seen it in education, local authorities, HSE.

TallGlass · 11-06-2016 8:53pm

Slydice wrote: »

Hrmmmm, €419.29 * 52 = 21803.08

That feels a bit low. If anyone is going for this competition, it might not be any harm just getting in touch with publicjobs and double checking the salary scale.

Wouldn't say so. Considering Garda are 24k, most grades in hospitals are starts 21k to 24k between grade 3/4.

Slydice · 11-06-2016 9:46pm

I really think double checking with publicjobs would be a good idea.

I think maybe they have included the wrong salary scales.

I think Circular 17/2015 linked from this page might have the current salary scales detailed:
http://www.per.gov.ie/en/public-service-pay-policy/

Here's a direct link:
http://www.per.gov.ie/wp-content/uploads/DPER-Circular-17.2015.pdf

Revised pay with effect from 1 January 2016 for General Service Grades

Clerical Officer Standard Scale
€22,565 €23,618 €24,312 €25,351 €26,389 €27,428
(€432.45) (€452.63) (€465.92) (€485.84) (€505.74) (€525.63)
€28,465 €29,485 €30,493 €31,192 €32,187 €33,735
(€545.51) (€565.06) (€584.38) (€597.78) (€616.85) (€646.51)
€34,954¹ €35,515²
(€669.87) (€680.62)

They may have quoted salary scales for previously serving civil servants:

who were
appointed on or after the 6th April 1995 paying the Class A rate of PRSI
contribution and making an employee contribution in respect of personal
superannuation benefits for General Service Grades.

Clerical Officer Standard Scale - PPC
€21,879 €23,375 €23,756 €24,498 €25,592 €26,684
(€419.29) (€447.97) (€455.28) (€469.48) (€490.46) (€511.39)
€27,777 €28,869 €29,931 €30,995 €31,743 €32,795
(€532.33) (€553.25) (€573.62) (€594.00) (€608.34) (€628.50)
€33,840 €35,471 €36,753¹ €37,341²
(€648.52) (€679.78) (€704.35) (€715.62)

but like I said, I really think double checking with publicjobs would be a good idea.

curiousoranje · 11-06-2016 11:16pm

Applied for this as well. I assume these are the lads who replaced Guards in the passport booths at the airport?

ParkRunner · 12-06-2016 9:14am

The figures are correct, it is entry level CO pay, a gross figure before tax, pension contribution and pension levy. Pay will increase in Sept 2017 under the landowne road agreement by €1k gross per annum but that's all that is in the pipeline unless a further agreement is thrashed out

The Veteran · 12-06-2016 5:58pm

The pay is over €28,000 in the first year. €419 x 52.18 weeks x 1.25 (to reflect shift allowance) plus additional days pay for the public holidays. €27,329 plus the public holidays - 9 or 10 when you count Good Friday (which is a paid day off in the civil service) do approaching €28,500 in the first year "basic". I also know there has been significant overtime opportunities for the staff there - its voluntary but its available.

py2006 · 16-06-2016 11:35am

Today is the last day for application. Anybody know on average how long the process takes before being offered an interview?

trish89 · 19-06-2016 5:54pm

Hey anyone know how long it will be before being offered an interview and also has anyone done the interview previously thanks ðŸ˜ŠðŸ–’

Heart Break Kid · 19-06-2016 9:38pm

Through my hat in this, knew someone who did it but had kids, shift work didnt work out. From what i gather its fairly interesting but 12 hour shifts could hurt a bit. But i like the working 30% less then standard cos.

kravmaga · 22-06-2016 8:05pm

Anyone,

I have applied for this job.

Is there anybody currently working in this role who could offer some more information on the hours/ pay scales/ VHI / Pension scheme offered?.

A poster mentioned 12 hours shifts? , do expand? if so is it 12x4= 48 per week , what is the roster/shift pattern like? Days on/ off etc

What is the salary scale taking plus is there a shift allowance and much opportunity for overtime?

Thanks

billie1b · 22-06-2016 8:16pm

kravmaga wrote: »

Anyone,

I have applied for this job.

Is there anybody currently working in this role who could offer some more information on the hours/ pay scales/ VHI / Pension scheme offered?.

A poster mentioned 12 hours shifts? , do expand? if so is it 12x4= 48 per week , what is the roster/shift pattern like? Days on/ off etc

What is the salary scale taking plus is there a shift allowance and much opportunity for overtime?

Thanks

The roster works 2 days on, 2 days off, 3 days on, 2 days off, 2 days on, 3 days off.

Shane Fitz · 22-06-2016 11:36pm

billie1b wrote: »

kravmaga wrote: »

Anyone,

I have applied for this job.

Is there anybody currently working in this role who could offer some more information on the hours/ pay scales/ VHI / Pension scheme offered?.

A poster mentioned 12 hours shifts? , do expand? if so is it 12x4= 48 per week , what is the roster/shift pattern like? Days on/ off etc

What is the salary scale taking plus is there a shift allowance and much opportunity for overtime?

Thanks

The roster works 2 days on, 2 days off, 3 days on, 2 days off, 2 days on, 3 days off.

The answer to all your questions are in the link to the add posted at the start of this thread, by other posters further up in this thread. And in the Information booklet you would have down loaded as when applying for this.

py2006 · 29-06-2016 12:54pm

Still no word on interviews & start dates?

Talkinpony · 29-06-2016 1:52pm

Anyone know if there would be an EO/HEO level competition in the pipeline??

sumpector · 30-06-2016 5:09pm

Just received an invitation to supervised tests at PAS, good to see the process is moving relatively quickly.

Sprog 4 · 30-06-2016 5:17pm

sumpector wrote: »

Just received an invitation to supervised tests at PAS, good to see the process is moving relatively quickly.

Same here. Time to play some Papers Please again in preparation

kazmcdonald · 30-06-2016 5:53pm

Me too! Have no idea what to expect!

py2006 · 30-06-2016 6:43pm

kazmcdonald wrote: »

Me too! Have no idea what to expect!

Me too!!

Heart Break Kid · 30-06-2016 7:13pm

May I ask what date you have ? .

spongebob89 · 30-06-2016 7:56pm

Can anyone tell me what this job entails..? A day in the life

Daily duties? How much pressure?

corkonian41 · 30-06-2016 7:59pm

I applied for Immigration and Prison service, got called too today to sit exam for both positions!

Garzard · 30-06-2016 8:08pm

Got the same invitation for the supervised aptitude test in mid-July. Is there just one position for the job?

gelsthe · 30-06-2016 8:15pm

Me too!!... mid july

mandymo · 30-06-2016 8:16pm

corkonian41 wrote: »

I applied for Immigration and Prison service, got called too today to sit exam for both positions!

Me too, only thing is the test is the day after we go to America for my cousins wedding, i'll be gone for 2 weeks....looks like that is me out of the running for both jobs

Shane Fitz · 30-06-2016 8:45pm

mandymo wrote: »

corkonian41 wrote: »

I applied for Immigration and Prison service, got called too today to sit exam for both positions!

Me too, only thing is the test is the day after we go to America for my cousins wedding, i'll be gone for 2 weeks....looks like that is me out of the running for both jobs

On the thread for the prison service someone got a date of July 4th. I got the 20th to sit test for both this and prison job. Could be worth shooting an email tomorrow and telling them your predicament and see if the can fit you in Monday?

greeneyes29 · 30-06-2016 8:49pm

Got called for next stage too! Would be an interesting role but it would be about a 45min drive for me each way. And less money . Bored silly in my current job tho.
Does anyone have the information booklet with job specification? I assume it's not on public jobs.ie anymore. ☺

Sprog 4 · 30-06-2016 8:54pm

Garzard wrote: »

Is there just one position for the job?

From reading the initial advert I got the impression they were trying to fill a number of positions. I could be wrong.

Shane Fitz · 30-06-2016 8:56pm

greeneyes29 wrote: »

Got called for next stage too! Would be an interesting role but it would be about a 45min drive for me each way. And less money . Bored silly in my current job tho.
Does anyone have the information booklet with job specification? I assume it's not on public jobs.ie anymore.

I printed it out. I'll try find it and dm you tomorrow if you don't get it beforehand

greeneyes29 · 30-06-2016 8:58pm

Shane Fitz wrote: »

I printed it out. I'll try find it and dm you tomorrow if you don't get it beforehand

Thanks Shane, Ive a wedding tomorrow so won't get to look for it so that would be great. ðŸ˜€

TallGlass · 30-06-2016 9:09pm

Got the shout as-well, only thing is I have a driving test the same day. Gonna give them a shout tomorrow.

Someone asked what was on the test, if you read the booklet you get with the email it has some examples. Kinda looks complicated compared some of the tests I have taken for PAS in the past. There must be some volume of people looking for these jobs, cause the way your tested is like the job is 100k a year !

italodisco · 30-06-2016 10:09pm

I also got the email today, July supervised testing.
I'm already in the public service and looking for something a bit more interesting.

The only bad side is that nepotism is rife and also more than likely half of the country applied lol.

Has anyone done one of these tests before? I did one ten years ago and didn't enjoy it I'll say that much haha

sumpector · 01-07-2016 12:02am

I would think there are a few jobs to fill if they're going to the bother of having supervised tests, probably going to create a panel and recruit from that as they need to. I could easily be wrong though but hopefully we get a decent go at it.

italodisco · 01-07-2016 12:07am

Has anyone any idea what these tests are like?? Any hints and tips would be appreciated

py2006 · 01-07-2016 9:15am

italodisco wrote: »

Has anyone any idea what these tests are like?? Any hints and tips would be appreciated

There is a brief description and a couple sample questions in a linked pdf document in your inbox on publicjobs.ie

italodisco · 01-07-2016 10:12am

Is this going to be the same as the CO test I see them talking about on another thread? They all did a part A online test but for these two roles I just filled in an online cv and answered a few situational questions.
I'm not the best at maths so I'm slightly worried now

py2006 · 01-07-2016 11:22am

mandymo wrote: »

Me too, only thing is the test is the day after we go to America for my cousins wedding, i'll be gone for 2 weeks....looks like that is me out of the running for both jobs

"Please attend as scheduled as requests for changes to allocated testing
sessions will only be considered in exceptional circumstances."

Seamus O Leprosy · 02-07-2016 3:11pm

When is the first exam date? I'm down for 18th July

Immigration Control Officer - Dublin Airport

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