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Immigration Control Officer - Dublin Airport

  • 10-06-2016 1:45pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 JobHunter2000


    Hello,

    Public Jobs has advertised the above position. It looks like a very interesting role and has a shift allowance too.

    Has anyone else gone for this?

    JH.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Looks an interesting role but the money is really poor for entry level and the shift work. Even 25% allowance brings it to just over 500 a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭gezz36


    Looks like a great job, would be really interesting to do...pay would suit if travel was not a big cost...rules it out for me. Go for it, if nothing else would be great experience on a CV if you wanted to keep looking for something better paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    Looks an interesting role but the money is really poor for entry level and the shift work. Even 25% allowance brings it to just over 500 a week.
    Where did you find the pay scale??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    The job is advertised on publicjobs.ie here:
    https://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/campaignAdvert/31597.htm

    The pay and conditions are detailed in the Information booklet
    Closing Date for Applications
    16/06/2016


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    Slydice wrote: »
    The job is advertised on publicjobs.ie here:
    https://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/campaignAdvert/31597.htm

    The pay and conditions are detailed in the Information booklet
    Closing Date for Applications
    16/06/2016
    No they're not. It menylons Tue entry point but the only actual figures are regarding the pension contributions at each point of the scale


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    Slydice wrote: »
    The job is advertised on publicjobs.ie here:
    https://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/campaignAdvert/31597.htm

    The pay and conditions are detailed in the Information booklet
    Closing Date for Applications
    16/06/2016
    No they're not. It mentions the entry point but the only actual figures are regarding the pension contributions at each point of the scale


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Page 7:
    Salary
    Clerical Officer Personal Pension Contribution (PPC) as of 01 January 2016
    €419.29 €447.97 €455.27 €469.48 €490.46 €511.39 €532.33
    €553.25 €573.62 €593.99 €608.33 €628.49 €648.53 €679.78NMAX

    €704.35 €715.62
    LSI1 LSI2

    That's the weekly wages.

    Multiply by 52 to get the annual salary.

    The phrase 'Personal Pension Contribution (PPC) as of 01 January 2016' means that's the pension scheme that the job will be a part of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    Never seen public service pay scales like that. How can they do it that way, when depending on your tax obligation everyone is different. I assume that the gross weekly. Usually they are the annual salary at each point of the scale.
    Thanks for that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭Dr Strange


    I have seen a similar if not the same weekly pay scale advertised for attendant jobs in the National Museum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    It's a clerical officers job so starts at 419 pw + 25% shift allowance.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Anyway not to pushed on the pay, I'm in a well paid job at the moment but fùcking hate it.

    Rather enjoy my work and get reasonable pay. Always a chance for promotion in these gigs, if anything passenger numbers on the rise.

    These applications with the questions are a bit long winded. Is that not the whole idea of an interview? Also wonder if they are taking many people on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Hrmmmm, €419.29 * 52 = 21803.08

    That feels a bit low. If anyone is going for this competition, it might not be any harm just getting in touch with publicjobs and double checking the salary scale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Shane Fitz wrote: »
    Never seen public service pay scales like that. How can they do it that way, when depending on your tax obligation everyone is different. I assume that the gross weekly. Usually they are the annual salary at each point of the scale.
    Thanks for that

    I'm not familiar with the how/why they came to advertise the way they do. I've just seen a lot of their advertisements and that's how they do them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Lower paid public sector pay scales are often given in gross weekly salary. Have seen it in education, local authorities, HSE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Slydice wrote: »
    Hrmmmm, €419.29 * 52 = 21803.08

    That feels a bit low. If anyone is going for this competition, it might not be any harm just getting in touch with publicjobs and double checking the salary scale.

    Wouldn't say so. Considering Garda are 24k, most grades in hospitals are starts 21k to 24k between grade 3/4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I really think double checking with publicjobs would be a good idea.

    I think maybe they have included the wrong salary scales.

    I think Circular 17/2015 linked from this page might have the current salary scales detailed:
    http://www.per.gov.ie/en/public-service-pay-policy/

    Here's a direct link:
    http://www.per.gov.ie/wp-content/uploads/DPER-Circular-17.2015.pdf
    Revised pay with effect from 1 January 2016 for General Service Grades
    Clerical Officer Standard Scale
    €22,565 €23,618 €24,312 €25,351 €26,389 €27,428
    (€432.45) (€452.63) (€465.92) (€485.84) (€505.74) (€525.63)
    €28,465 €29,485 €30,493 €31,192 €32,187 €33,735
    (€545.51) (€565.06) (€584.38) (€597.78) (€616.85) (€646.51)
    €34,954¹ €35,515²
    (€669.87) (€680.62)

    They may have quoted salary scales for previously serving civil servants:
    who were
    appointed on or after the 6th April 1995 paying the Class A rate of PRSI
    contribution and making an employee contribution in respect of personal
    superannuation benefits for General Service Grades.
    Clerical Officer Standard Scale - PPC
    €21,879 €23,375 €23,756 €24,498 €25,592 €26,684
    (€419.29) (€447.97) (€455.28) (€469.48) (€490.46) (€511.39)
    €27,777 €28,869 €29,931 €30,995 €31,743 €32,795
    (€532.33) (€553.25) (€573.62) (€594.00) (€608.34) (€628.50)
    €33,840 €35,471 €36,753¹ €37,341²
    (€648.52) (€679.78) (€704.35) (€715.62)


    but like I said, I really think double checking with publicjobs would be a good idea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭curiousoranje


    Applied for this as well. I assume these are the lads who replaced Guards in the passport booths at the airport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    The figures are correct, it is entry level CO pay, a gross figure before tax, pension contribution and pension levy. Pay will increase in Sept 2017 under the landowne road agreement by €1k gross per annum but that's all that is in the pipeline unless a further agreement is thrashed out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭The Veteran


    The pay is over €28,000 in the first year. €419 x 52.18 weeks x 1.25 (to reflect shift allowance) plus additional days pay for the public holidays. €27,329 plus the public holidays - 9 or 10 when you count Good Friday (which is a paid day off in the civil service) do approaching €28,500 in the first year "basic". I also know there has been significant overtime opportunities for the staff there - its voluntary but its available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Today is the last day for application. Anybody know on average how long the process takes before being offered an interview?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 trish89


    Hey anyone know how long it will be before being offered an interview and also has anyone done the interview previously thanks 😊🖒


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Heart Break Kid


    Through my hat in this, knew someone who did it but had kids, shift work didnt work out. From what i gather its fairly interesting but 12 hour shifts could hurt a bit. But i like the working 30% less then standard cos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    Anyone,

    I have applied for this job.

    Is there anybody currently working in this role who could offer some more information on the hours/ pay scales/ VHI / Pension scheme offered?.

    A poster mentioned 12 hours shifts? , do expand? if so is it 12x4= 48 per week , what is the roster/shift pattern like? Days on/ off etc

    What is the salary scale taking plus is there a shift allowance and much opportunity for overtime?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭billie1b


    kravmaga wrote: »
    Anyone,

    I have applied for this job.

    Is there anybody currently working in this role who could offer some more information on the hours/ pay scales/ VHI / Pension scheme offered?.

    A poster mentioned 12 hours shifts? , do expand? if so is it 12x4= 48 per week , what is the roster/shift pattern like? Days on/ off etc

    What is the salary scale taking plus is there a shift allowance and much opportunity for overtime?

    Thanks

    The roster works 2 days on, 2 days off, 3 days on, 2 days off, 2 days on, 3 days off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    billie1b wrote: »
    kravmaga wrote: »
    Anyone,

    I have applied for this job.

    Is there anybody currently working in this role who could offer some more information on the hours/ pay scales/ VHI / Pension scheme offered?.

    A poster mentioned 12 hours shifts? , do expand? if so is it 12x4= 48 per week , what is the roster/shift pattern like? Days on/ off etc

    What is the salary scale taking plus is there a shift allowance and much opportunity for overtime?

    Thanks

    The roster works 2 days on, 2 days off, 3 days on, 2 days off, 2 days on, 3 days off.
    The answer to all your questions are in the link to the add posted at the start of this thread, by other posters further up in this thread. And in the Information booklet you would have down loaded as when applying for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Still no word on interviews & start dates?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Talkinpony


    Anyone know if there would be an EO/HEO level competition in the pipeline??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 sumpector


    Just received an invitation to supervised tests at PAS, good to see the process is moving relatively quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Sprog 4


    sumpector wrote: »
    Just received an invitation to supervised tests at PAS, good to see the process is moving relatively quickly.

    Same here. Time to play some Papers Please again in preparation :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭kazmcdonald


    Me too! Have no idea what to expect!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Me too! Have no idea what to expect!

    Me too!! :(:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Heart Break Kid


    May I ask what date you have ? .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭spongebob89


    Can anyone tell me what this job entails..? A day in the life

    Daily duties? How much pressure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭corkonian41


    I applied for Immigration and Prison service, got called too today to sit exam for both positions!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Garzard


    Got the same invitation for the supervised aptitude test in mid-July. Is there just one position for the job?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭gelsthe


    Me too!!... mid july


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭mandymo


    I applied for Immigration and Prison service, got called too today to sit exam for both positions!
    Me too, only thing is the test is the day after we go to America for my cousins wedding, i'll be gone for 2 weeks....looks like that is me out of the running for both jobs :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    mandymo wrote: »
    I applied for Immigration and Prison service, got called too today to sit exam for both positions!
    Me too, only thing is the test is the day after we go to America for my cousins wedding, i'll be gone for 2 weeks....looks like that is me out of the running for both jobs :(

    On the thread for the prison service someone got a date of July 4th. I got the 20th to sit test for both this and prison job. Could be worth shooting an email tomorrow and telling them your predicament and see if the can fit you in Monday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 greeneyes29


    Got called for next stage too! Would be an interesting role but it would be about a 45min drive for me each way. And less money . Bored silly in my current job tho.
    Does anyone have the information booklet with job specification? I assume it's not on public jobs.ie anymore. ☺


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Sprog 4


    Garzard wrote: »
    Is there just one position for the job?

    From reading the initial advert I got the impression they were trying to fill a number of positions. I could be wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Shane Fitz


    Got called for next stage too! Would be an interesting role but it would be about a 45min drive for me each way. And less money . Bored silly in my current job tho.
    Does anyone have the information booklet with job specification? I assume it's not on public jobs.ie anymore.
    I printed it out. I'll try find it and dm you tomorrow if you don't get it beforehand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 greeneyes29


    Shane Fitz wrote: »
    I printed it out. I'll try find it and dm you tomorrow if you don't get it beforehand

    Thanks Shane, Ive a wedding tomorrow so won't get to look for it so that would be great. 😀


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Got the shout as-well, only thing is I have a driving test the same day. Gonna give them a shout tomorrow.

    Someone asked what was on the test, if you read the booklet you get with the email it has some examples. Kinda looks complicated compared some of the tests I have taken for PAS in the past. There must be some volume of people looking for these jobs, cause the way your tested is like the job is 100k a year !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    I also got the email today, July supervised testing.
    I'm already in the public service and looking for something a bit more interesting.

    The only bad side is that nepotism is rife and also more than likely half of the country applied lol.

    Has anyone done one of these tests before? I did one ten years ago and didn't enjoy it I'll say that much haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 sumpector


    I would think there are a few jobs to fill if they're going to the bother of having supervised tests, probably going to create a panel and recruit from that as they need to. I could easily be wrong though but hopefully we get a decent go at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Has anyone any idea what these tests are like?? Any hints and tips would be appreciated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    italodisco wrote: »
    Has anyone any idea what these tests are like?? Any hints and tips would be appreciated

    There is a brief description and a couple sample questions in a linked pdf document in your inbox on publicjobs.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Is this going to be the same as the CO test I see them talking about on another thread? They all did a part A online test but for these two roles I just filled in an online cv and answered a few situational questions.
    I'm not the best at maths so I'm slightly worried now :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    mandymo wrote: »
    Me too, only thing is the test is the day after we go to America for my cousins wedding, i'll be gone for 2 weeks....looks like that is me out of the running for both jobs :(

    "Please attend as scheduled as requests for changes to allocated testing
    sessions will only be considered in exceptional circumstances."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭Seamus O Leprosy


    When is the first exam date? I'm down for 18th July


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