Immigration Control Officer - Dublin Airport

backtogeather

As a previous post stated we are dealing with the top 200 of an aptitude test, this does not mean that they have common sense. I do genuinely wish everyone the best of luck in their interviews but do not assume that you have the position just because you scored high on a test.

This position requires quick thinking, being able to read a person. An ability to deal with all manner of people from all over the world. Delivering bad news to people being refused entry to the state with consideration of the persons humane rights. This is a skill that not everyone has regardless of intelligence.

Again best of luck.

RozDoyle

backtogeather wrote: »

As a previous post stated we are dealing with the top 200 of an aptitude test, this does not mean that they have common sense. I do genuinely wish everyone the best of luck in their interviews but do not assume that you have the position just because you scored high on a test.

This position requires quick thinking, being able to read a person. An ability to deal with all manner of people from all over the world. Delivering bad news to people being refused entry to the state with consideration of the persons humane rights. This is a skill that not everyone has regardless of intelligence.

Again best of luck.

I 100% agree with you backtogeather. I'm sorry if I caused any offence by mentioning about the top 200 test scores. Not for one minute did I mean it to sound arrogant, I just felt a little insulted by someone suggesting that we must not have read the familiarisation material if we found some elements of the interview to be a little more spontaneous that normal. I've never regarded the position to be "in the bag" or believed that I or anyone else is is entitled to get it based on the aptitude test alone.
For the record though, I'm not sure being able to fluff up fancy examples or even maybe tell lies on the spot for a thirty minute period is any great measure of common sense or even emotional intelligence either. Not everyone shines at aptitude tests, and not everyone interviews like a pro either. I think we can all agree that no recruitment process is perfect. Accept my apologies again for any offence caused, was genuinely only trying to give my two cents and maybe a "heads up" to others in the process.

backtogeather

RozDoyle wrote: »

I 100% agree with you backtogeather. I'm sorry if I caused any offence by mentioning about the top 200 test scores. Not for one minute did I mean it to sound arrogant, I just felt a little insulted by someone suggesting that we must not have read the familiarisation material if we found some elements of the interview to be a little more spontaneous that normal. I've never regarded the position to be "in the bag" or believed that I or anyone else is is entitled to get it based on the aptitude test alone.
For the record though, I'm not sure being able to fluff up fancy examples or even maybe tell lies on the spot for a thirty minute period is any great measure of common sense or even emotional intelligence either. Not everyone shines at aptitude tests, and not everyone interviews like a pro either. I think we can all agree that no recruitment process is perfect. Accept my apologies again for any offence caused, was genuinely only trying to give my two cents and maybe a "heads up" to others in the process.

RozDoyle I took absolutely no offence to your post. I was just quoting what you said ."the top 200". It just seems that along this board people think that they have the position just because they score high on an aptitude test. Also I do agree with you that not everyone shines in an interview environment either. I think that this job needs good rational thinking people, this cannot be thought in a classroom. This requires life experience that cannot be thought in a classroom. I know plenty of people who have a Master Degree but would shrivel at the thought of confrontation and also know a lot of people who just done a leaving cert that would wipe the floor with confrontation and come out on top.

OK you need a level of intelligence but i just don't think that this job should be based soley on aptitude. And what everyone needs to remember that this is not only just a job it affects peopled lives.

kazmcdonald

Will it be via our public jobs profile that we will be told or will they write to us?

sumpector

I was told to keep an eye on the publicjobs messages.

TallGlass

kazmcdonald wrote: »

Will it be via our public jobs profile that we will be told or will they write to us?

Message via your PublicJobs profile on the website.

TallGlass

Had mine this morning, which ever way it went, very nice interviewers.

kazmcdonald

Now begins the waiting game! Best of luck to all called for interview.

Reav

Now that the interviews are over; how do people, who were lucky enough to get through to that stage, think they went?

cw67irl

Is that all the interviews completed?

Any idea how long the rest of the panel will last? Very narrowly missed out this time

Reav

cw67irl wrote: »

Is that all the interviews completed?

Any idea how long the rest of the panel will last? Very narrowly missed out this time

I've no idea I didn't ask!

StokesDrift

Reav wrote: »

Now that the interviews are over; how do people, who were lucky enough to get through to that stage, think they went?

Hard to say. Initially I thought mine went ok, but the more time I have to overanalyse, the worse I'm feeling about it!

TallGlass

Reav wrote: »

Now that the interviews are over; how do people, who were lucky enough to get through to that stage, think they went?

Well, in comparison to the DFB and AGS. DFB was the start of my introduction to these type of interviews, I didn't think it went well, I failed. AGS, was an improvement, I thought it was bad, I passed, IMC today was great I thought it went well, the outcome, I don't know, you just can't judge it. I might have done well and failed.

But do hope everyone done as best they could and gets what they want. Best of luck.

Reav

TallGlass wrote: »

Well, in comparison to the DFB and AGS. DFB was the start of my introduction to these type of interviews, I didn't think it went well, I failed. AGS, was an improvement, I thought it was bad, I passed, IMC today was great I thought it went well, the outcome, I don't know, you just can't judge it. I might have done well and failed.

But do hope everyone done as best they could and gets what they want. Best of luck.

My interviewers really put me at ease - but who knows......

TallGlass

Reav wrote: »

My interviewers really put me at ease - but who knows......

Exactly, you just don't know. In fairness the best interviews are these, extract information and you are none the wiser about if it's good or bad.

RozDoyle

cw67irl wrote: »

Is that all the interviews completed?

Any idea how long the rest of the panel will last? Very narrowly missed out this time

Hi cw67irl,
The lifetime of most public jobs panels is 2 years so there is plenty of time left in this one yet. I think you're in a fairly good position to get an interview call at some stage, it just could be six months or a year down the line. I wouldn't go putting your life on hold for it or anything but really you're not out of the running until a new campaign is announced and a new panel is formed and I can't see that happening before 2018.

py2006

RozDoyle wrote: »

Hi cw67irl,
The lifetime of most public jobs panels is 2 years so there is plenty of time left in this one yet. I think you're in a fairly good position to get an interview call at some stage, it just could be six months or a year down the line. I wouldn't go putting your life on hold for it or anything but really you're not out of the running until a new campaign is announced and a new panel is formed and I can't see that happening before 2018.

Judging by how swiftly this process has gone I would doubt it would go on that long. I think I did read somewhere that the plan was to fill all positions by the 4th quarter of this year. I could be wrong though.

The Veteran

py2006 wrote: »

Judging by how swiftly this process has gone I would doubt it would go on that long. I think I did read somewhere that the plan was to fill all positions by the 4th quarter of this year. I could be wrong though.

Can't see the panel created this week lasting more than a couple of months at most. That said, the option then could be to interview another batch but time will tell.

Mudmask

Anyone ask how long before we hear back from interview? I feel I did poorly and thinking about it is killing me :P. So many things I should have said and its only coming to me now. The interviewers really were lovely though!

TallGlass

Mudmask wrote: »

Anyone ask how long before we hear back from interview? I feel I did poorly and thinking about it is killing me :P. So many things I should have said and its only coming to me now. The interviewers really were lovely though!

I was told to expect it in the weeks rather than months.

I would say around week and a half to two weeks to here the results.

The Veteran

Noticing that a few people have posted (or others have looked at their posting history and seen it) that they are pursuing a few different competitions like this one; AGS; PASO; DFB got a mention and maybe others. Just wondering of those who are pursuing multiple options; which would you prefer or opt for?

Shuttle666

The Veteran wrote: »

Noticing that a few people have posted (or others have looked at their posting history and seen it) that they are pursuing a few different competitions like this one; AGS; PASO; DFB got a mention and maybe others. Just wondering of those who are pursuing multiple options; which would you prefer or opt for?

Unsurprisingly, not too many here rushing to answer this one! I'm already working in one of the roles mentioned, so I'm pretty certain I would be taking this if lucky enough to be offered.

Bros81

The Veteran wrote: »

Noticing that a few people have posted (or others have looked at their posting history and seen it) that they are pursuing a few different competitions like this one; AGS; PASO; DFB got a mention and maybe others. Just wondering of those who are pursuing multiple options; which would you prefer or opt for?

I'd take this over PASO if offered it.

kazmcdonald

Only applied for this and would love it if I was offered it. Trying to wait patiently.....

swizzle0411

Been reading here but not posted til now. I read this morning that the take over is now due to happen in early 2017. I'm assuming that the full amount of vacancies won't be filled from the recent interviews if they think it would take that long to be operational. I could be assuming completly wrong though. just a little bit of hope for anyone pinning their hopes on a second batch of interviews

Paxo16

swizzle0411 wrote: »

Been reading here but not posted til now. I read this morning that the take over is now due to happen in early 2017. I'm assuming that the full amount of vacancies won't be filled from the recent interviews if they think it would take that long to be operational. I could be assuming completly wrong though. just a little bit of hope for anyone pinning their hopes on a second batch of interviews

Hi, do you mind me asking where you read that? Thanks

swizzle0411

Paxo16 wrote: »

Hi, do you mind me asking where you read that? Thanks

I thought it was the cpsu website but can't find it now sorry

RozDoyle

swizzle0411 wrote: »

I thought it was the cpsu website but can't find it now sorry

It was in the July/August edition of Aontas magazine. A digital copy is available on the cpsu website. Definitely says early 2017 now looks likely for handover. Maybe that's taking training time into account.

Seamus O Leprosy

Early 2017 for starts does seem logical, as successful candidates will have to undergo Garda clearance and mine for a TCO job has just come through after a 8 week wait

Turtyturd

RozDoyle wrote: »

It was in the July/August edition of Aontas magazine. A digital copy is available on the cpsu website. Definitely says early 2017 now looks likely for handover. Maybe that's taking training time into account.

So that would have gone to print before the current round of interviews?

Initial comment made it seem like the delay was down to lack of suitable candidates.

RozDoyle

Turtyturd wrote: »

So that would have gone to print before the current round of interviews?

Initial comment made it seem like the delay was down to lack of suitable candidates.

I doubt it's anything to do with lack of suitable candidates at all! I think it's just that the initial projections of a handover in Q4 of 2016 were probably a little bit ambitious. It would seem that most PAS and/or Dept of Justice campaigns tend to take longer than first stated. Anyone else hopeful of interview results this week?

sumpector

Wasn't the start of Q4 in relation to completing the recruitment? I asked about training at the end of my interview and they told me it would last several weeks, from classroom to on the job training. I've glanced at the training for ICO in the UK and it lasts 2 months so it could be similar here? I hope we get word on the result of interviews soon enough to be put out of my misery either way!

Turtyturd

RozDoyle wrote: »

I doubt it's anything to do with lack of suitable candidates at all! I think it's just that the initial projections of a handover in Q4 of 2016 were probably a little bit ambitious. It would seem that most PAS and/or Dept of Justice campaigns tend to take longer than first stated. Anyone else hopeful of interview results this week?

Yeah I probably picked it up wrong and they meant that people dropping out due to the delay would give those outside the top 200 a chance to be called for interview.

If the 8 weeks training is correct, added to the remaining 4-6 weeks for Garda clearance you would be looking at early to mid December for initial recruits.

On the results, I thought it would be similar to the CO competition and people would hear back within a week to ten days. Then I thought they delayed it til after the PASO interviews to avoid massive drop outs. Guy I know who did them is convinced he failed this one, but confident about the PASO interview so just wants to know for definite.

horseflesh

sumpector wrote: »

Wasn't the start of Q4 in relation to completing the recruitment? I asked about training at the end of my interview and they told me it would last several weeks, from classroom to on the job training. I've glanced at the training for ICO in the UK and it lasts 2 months so it could be similar here? I hope we get word on the result of interviews soon enough to be put out of my misery either way!

I was told eight weeks training.
Also re the Garda vetting; was also told that pending that, anyone starting would only have "escort" access in the airport.

horseflesh

Did anyone else get a message on the publicjobs site?

TallGlass

Got my result and I passed but retain my position as per stage 1. There calling forward, candidates 1-49 to the next stage.

Sounds like I am either out or in for a long wait, as I am around 120.

If it was a case of me been in 1-49 I would literally of handed in my notice and take a few weeks off before any action.

Hope everyone gets what there looking for and best of luck going forward to all.

Eagle eyes12

Just passed the interview and I'm in the 90s does that mean I'm on a panel?

horseflesh

TallGlass wrote: »

Got my result and I passed but retain my position as per stage 1. There calling forward, candidates 1-49 to the next stage.

Sounds like I am either out or in for a long wait, as I am around 120.

If it was a case of me been in 1-49 I would literally of handed in my notice and take a few weeks off before any action.

Hope everyone gets what there looking for and best of luck going forward to all.

I got this in my message;
"You will retain the order of merit place from Stage 1 supervised tests. Candidates placed at 1 to 39 on the order of merit are now under consideration subject to clearance."

I was mid-twenties, so does that mean I'm in? Or is the "under consideration" part mean maybe not?

Eagle eyes12

horseflesh wrote: »

I got this in my message;
"You will retain the order of merit place from Stage 1 supervised tests. Candidates placed at 1 to 39 on the order of merit are now under consideration subject to clearance."

I was mid-twenties, so does that mean I'm in? Or is the "under consideration" part mean maybe not?

You'd be under consideration for the position. Congratulations!

Eagle eyes12

TallGlass wrote: »

Got my result and I passed but retain my position as per stage 1. There calling forward, candidates 1-49 to the next stage.

Sounds like I am either out or in for a long wait, as I am around 120.

If it was a case of me been in 1-49 I would literally of handed in my notice and take a few weeks off before any action.

Hope everyone gets what there looking for and best of luck going forward to all.

Don't forget to take into consideration people who failed the interview or failed to show up to the interview.

golfer6765

Anyone else a serving civil servant applying for this and know how the transfer over will happen?

TallGlass

horseflesh wrote: »

I got this in my message;
"You will retain the order of merit place from Stage 1 supervised tests. Candidates placed at 1 to 39 on the order of merit are now under consideration subject to clearance."

I was mid-twenties, so does that mean I'm in? Or is the "under consideration" part mean maybe not?

It's a way of saying your in, but you can be removed if anything comes up on any upcoming checks on medical and or Garda clearance. But your pretty much in the door.

sumpector

Do we have to do a physical medical?

RozDoyle

sumpector wrote: »

Do we have to do a physical medical?

No. The health and character declaration form that we filled out is sufficient for clerical officer level as far as I am aware anyway and there was no mention of a medical or physical in any of the familiarisation material either. Just the vetting/clearance to be waited out now and ready to go. Congrats to all who've made it this far.

pennyh

Does anyone know if there are going to be more than 39 positions. I thought there were meant to be 70 positions.

TallGlass

pennyh wrote: »

Does anyone know if there are going to be more than 39 positions. I thought there were meant to be 70 positions.

Might be doing a batch at a time. 49/49, then I can see another comp starting if needing more people, I am around 120 so basically considering myself out to be honest. Think I shall leave it there, best of luck to all in the new role.

Kaloko

TallGlass wrote: »

Might be doing a batch at a time. 49/49, then I can see another comp starting if needing more people, I am around 120 so basically considering myself out to be honest. Think I shall leave it there, best of luck to all in the new role.

At 120 could make the next batch of people they may call. So let's say 119 placed higher than you but not all might have gone for the interview so knock a few off. Then out of the rest not everyone passed the interview or will pass the garda vetting or might have a medical condition that deems them ineligible. So that number could even be halved if we say every second person passed the interview. This is just my estimate because I'm trying to stay positive lol. I'm in the 140's myself :-D

Amanda.ie

Kaloko wrote: »

At 120 could make the next batch of people they may call. So let's say 119 placed higher than you but not all might have gone for the interview so knock a few off. Then out of the rest not everyone passed the interview or will pass the garda vetting or might have a medical condition that deems them ineligible. So that number could even be halved if we say every second person passed the interview. This is just my estimate because I'm trying to stay positive lol. I'm in the 140's myself :-D

You would imagine no one will fail garda vetting as all candidates know it is a requirement. If there is a history there why apply?

Kaloko

Amanda.ie wrote: »

You would imagine no one will fail garda vetting as all candidates know it is a requirement. If there is a history there why apply?

Who knows. I'm just throwing out reasons why there might not be as many people ahead of you as you might think. Im just hoping they might call more people down the line. How did you place yourself?

The Veteran

I would say that a very significant number did not turn up for the interview and I would say a good few did not pass the interview. I would say that if you have been told you passed then your "real number" in terms of a panel is actually higher than the number you had after the exams. You would be surprised as well but a good few will still turn a job offer. I think it's too early to really know what is happening.