Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself? [Threadbanned users in 1st post]

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957328#Comment_121957328

Eh… what precisely is wrong with having reservations / differing views on trans, immigrant, or whatever-you're-having- issues of the day??

Is there some law that says we should all sing off the same hymn sheet?? What's wrong with having a different opinion?

No doubt but that there are some threads where there is a prevailing view and anyone who differs is not really welcome. That's fine and understandable at one level, as birds of a feather flock together etc. But in these cases, moderators should allow another thread to be run dealing with the same issues but where all views are welcome.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957317#Comment_121957317

This is a novel idea and one worth exploring. A reset button.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957265#Comment_121957265

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957318#Comment_121957318

Look at these attitudes to posters who are raising their concerns/points. 1. Dismissive of posters and their grievances as farce. 2. Very quick to pettily respond with insults. 'Dick' 'Pricks' 'dick.'

Some mods need a break. A long break.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121956478#Comment_121956478

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121956317#Comment_121956317

It should be a paid job.

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957401#Comment_121957401

Attitudes to certain posters - who have a Very Clear Agenda - but that wouldn't include you of course….

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957417#Comment_121957417

Agenda? What's my agenda?

scottser

Most discussion forums I've joined have had Mods who were a lot more thin-skinned and sensitive than on here. This is one of the few i haven't been barred from yet. But the whole ban on commenting on anything before the courts is a bit of a nonsense imo. It's not like any of us are parties to any proceedings, posting details of evidence or prejudicing the trial in any way. Discussion and conjecture should be fair game imo.

Ezeoul

…believe it or not, all moderators aren't "power hungry" and wanting to ban everyone for having an opinion!

Not all, but some definitely are, and they abuse their moderator privileges.

And I'm sorry, but I think the CMods and Admins know very well who these moderators are, but give them "a nudge", or a talking too, rather than acknowledge they are not up to the role and de-mod them. I think that is because of the so often given reason that there are not enough mods as it is, and that mods are volunteers. So they keep them, even the bad ones. All done behind closed doors, of course, in a mod only forum.

I'd rather no moderation, than bad moderation. At least then it would be a level playing field, even if said playing field became a free for all.

nachouser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957393#Comment_121957393

I think my point was very clear. People post stuff on here that they would not post in real life situations.

MakersMark

In my opinion, the mods here are brain washed left wing parrots.

TThere's Some useful info in the Motors section.

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957424#Comment_121957424

'I'd rather no Mod than a bad Mod' - interesting idea, but with no Mods at all, I would imagine Boards would be Liable to close rather quickly.

Most of the 'bad' posters are very well known to Mods ( both good and bad ones). They frequently appear in threads like these - as they have already in this one. Warning and Banning them takes time unfortunately, but it is a worthwhile task imo.

Mods do get De-Modded, not just because they are Bad Mods, but because they get tired of dealing with Bad posters.

It is what it is, always has been I reckon. Bad Mods and Bad posters co-exist in a lot of ways.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957443#Comment_121957443

I should have added that there is very, very little of what I would write here that I wouldn't openly discuss in real life.

jj880

https://youtu.be/umkovqvw714

Boards used to be the trust tree. Now its not. Warned. Banned. Posts disappear. Sometimes I wear my old boards t-shirt and reminisce about bottles of lemon hooch and posting anything I want. Would bring a tear te yer eye.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957485#Comment_121957485

Equally a lot of posters leave the site because of bad mods, I don’t bother posting in the football forum because the mods are are, well, you know the rest.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957485#Comment_121957485

Define a bad poster? How do they get mods demodded?

And, of course, you'll return to your accusation of me having an agenda.

Big Bag of Chips

And I'm sorry, but I think the CMods and Admins know very well who these moderators are, but give them "a nudge", or a talking too, rather than acknowledge they are not up to the role and de-mod them because of the so often given reason that there are not enough mods as it is, and that mods are volunteers. All done behind closed doors, of course, in a mod only forum.

In the same way posters are oftentimes given a nudge behind closed doors (via PM) rather than onthread. Posters, and moderators are given chances. A moderator will not be demodded immediately if there are problems. Same as a poster won't be banned immediately (take our friend on this thread as an example!) Being a mod is a thankless job. It's a very public job and people are expected to never make a mistake - And accept abuse if they do. The background team of moderators would rather work with a moderator to help them resolve whatever is going on rather than pile on and demod immediately. Sometimes, demodding will end up being the appropriate outcome, but not before a fair chance has been given to make changes.

And just as posters are not going to be privy to every action taken against other posters, they also don't need to be privy to actions taken against moderators.

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957520#Comment_121957520

This is unfortunately probabaly true, as for the Soccer Mods, …dealing with All kind of posters, yes, I know the rest. Football forum is tipping away nicely actually, you should try it

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957521#Comment_121957521

I'm sure you are well capable of defining such a poster yourself. Post 203 should give you an idea on your other question.

Tom Mann Centuria

I've been here since 2007 and I think most mods are excellent. Got a bee in my bonnet about mods who do fupp all modding but it's so hard to know who mods what now I have to just shake my fist at clouds instead.

Mehaffey1

Been here for years and never had a problem with any moderator personally.

I'd have more of a focus on how to we go about attracting new members to the site, is it possible at all these days?

Even more importantly then would be how to keep them visiting?

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957609#Comment_121957609

I think discussion sites like Boards are not appealing to the youth of today who are social media junkies to some extent - broad generlisation I know. As they grow older, Boards might become more of an option maybe.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957417#Comment_121957417

For the record, I don't want any mod demodded. But I do think it gets to a stage where some mods and posters shouldn't interact after it has turned sour (after respect has been lost on both sides).

For instance, how can a mod objectively mod a poster/s who they think has an agenda, think they're posts are farcical, or they think is a dick…

That just can't work.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957633#Comment_121957633

Hmm.. would a boards.ie twitter handle for trending posts help to attract a wider audience I wonder.

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957637#Comment_121957637

Well, they can Mod them perfectly well if the poster has an agenda, their posts are farcical and they are a dick.

Otherwise, most Forums have a couple of Mods and they can deal with posters aswell, or there is DRP where another couple of opinions can be sought - if actually needed, for fairness. If after three opinions are sought, generally if the mud sticks, the problem is the poster/post in fairness.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957671#Comment_121957671

What’s the difference between an agenda and an opinion?

batman75

I had a post removed relating to Donaldson which was very general and mentioned no people or allegations. Mod who messaged me has come across very badly. I like boards and enjoy reading it's contents. I also appreciate being a moderator can be a thankless task. I'm also aware of the possibility of litigation hovers over a site like this.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957671#Comment_121957671

That's not the question I asked. I asked how can a mod objectively mod a poster/s who they think has an agenda, think they're posts are farcical, or they think is a dick… - I didn't ask how a mod mods someone who is a dick or has an agenda. But you seem just incapable of seeing anything from a poster's angle.

And in a number of posts tonight, you've shown this determination to just flip every question back from a perception on a mod to a poster. It can't be all one way…

That just can't work.

You don't see a problem with that, no?

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957691#Comment_121957691

Probably depends on the poster, their history, the forum, and topic in question, their posting style on the topic, but realistically, one determines the other doesn't it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957767#Comment_121957767

Here is what Big Bag of chips posted:

“general you're not going to get banned for expressing an opinion. Controversial or otherwise”

Realistically, there are huge inconsistencies in the subjective actions of mods, hence why there are realistic criticisms of the performance of mods, and why posters leave.

There really shouldn’t be actions taken against posters just because they have a different opinion from mods.

So I’ll ask again, what is the difference between an agenda and an opinion, is there a boards.ie protocol for moderating this site?

Musicrules

I don't know if this is through instruction but I find the way mods treat people to be quite appalling. They appear to take joy in being nasty to people when handing out warnings. Why is that? It's a form of bullying in my opinion. Maybe they get a kick out of it?

This is it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121957808#Comment_121957808

Ah come on, that's definitely not the norm across boards