Another random person hospitalized after unprovoked attack in Dublin city center

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121471690#Comment_121471690

More authority then arresting them, depriving then of their freedom, charging them with criminal offences and bringing them before the courts?

Not sure what you're asking for tbh

RobbieV

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121460352#Comment_121460352

Well it is 100 % effective in reducing reoffending rates .

We have individuals with convictions in the 100s.

These people will never change.

Sugar_Rush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121473980#Comment_121473980

I'd vote for it (for those types).

🤨

downtheroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121476818#Comment_121476818

Anyone with 100+ crimes (and they're the ones they've been caught for) is of absolutely zero use to society.

A life in prison or a death sentence is hardly inappropriate.

tayto lover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121470711#Comment_121470711

Don't I know !! Don't I know !! They make up things to suit their argument. Imagine that happening.

downtheroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121477260#Comment_121477260

No worries.

What would you do with someone who has 100+ convictions? Ask them to promise not to offend again?

RobbieV

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121476818#Comment_121476818

I would prefer if the opportunity to reach 100s of convictions wasnt given.

I'm just a law and order type. What about you, What do you think?

jacool

I'd like to see the people charged and jailed for the attack that made the girl blind in one eye, have the sentence for Suspect B added to theirs until such time as one of them gave up his name.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121484278#Comment_121484278

3 years is a disgraceful sentence for what happened to Alannah

Baba Yaga

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121484386#Comment_121484386

should be at least double that

JP Liz V1

Someone else killed in Tallaght

L.Ball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121487652#Comment_121487652

40 year old stabbed by a 19 year old known to him, totally normal.

dublinman1990

There is now a second young man arrested after the murder in Tallaght on Monday night.

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2023/1212/1421459-tallaght-stabbing/

The victim has been named as Ionel Nicolae Diaconu. It is not yet known what country he is from at this time.

He was staying in a house with an Irish woman and four children at the time of the murder.

Local neighbours were also saying he only moved to Castle Park in Tallaght a few months ago.

It is a very tragic story considering the circumstances surrounding this case.

Deebles McBeebles

If he's not originally from Romania, my name isn't Dan Petrescu.

Beasty

The fatal stabbing in Tallaght is before the courts and cannot be discussed further on this site

Sugar_Rush

What if a case is "after" the courts?

As in, the verdict/sentencing has been passed.

Does that mean it's a done-deal and we can discuss it?

There was another case (verdict passed), which is kind of routine for Dublin.

Some man and his daughter were attacked by a group of youths, most of whom are too young to be named.

....

I mention it cause, I know we think this type of behaviour is typical of ever major city.

If we're talking about parts of LA or something, then maybe?

But overseas, fairly consistent feedback that one may hear from those who have lived in Ireland and/or Dublin is, "so many scumbags".

This scumbag culture is really something unique to Ireland, in its intensity?

I don't know if anyone agrees with that?

Sugar_Rush

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1734912106728653040

Same issue the entire country over, in truth.

Law and order reform already - tackle the culture head on.

Strumms

The businesses end up paying multiples more for security and their insurance and in turn that extra expense has to be paid for by the ordinary honest consumer at the till.

just build another fûcking prison and be done with it and get draconian enough so that the law is a deterrent. People walking around with dozens of convictions and never loosing their liberty.. nice

batman_oh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493111#Comment_121493111

The pesky far right are getting busy for holiday season 🤣

Baba Yaga

its been festering for a long time now,since covid its worse,work in security and see it every day,people are genuinely afraid even in the daylight(yeah i know someone will be along shortly to say its grand,walk around day and night and see nothing) i know ive said it before but we need more gards on the street and more prisons and enough of the softly softly approach...

The Nal

A load of kids growing up in multistory tiny flats with nothing to do. Who wouldve thought this would lead to anti social behaviour?

Baba Yaga

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493528#Comment_121493528

believe theres an election coming up shortly,make it an issue and make them address it,write/email your td,the minister for justice,the garda commisioner,your local superintendant,local sergeant and keep sending it,its easy with email just keep resending it...its not just dublin,its country wide

tastyt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493527#Comment_121493527

Load of bollocks , they have more sports clubs , skate parks , gaming systems , parks than any generation has ever had

The reason is very simple , there are no consequences for being a little scumbag anymore

If they ever do get into a little bit of bother they know there’s a willing scumbag solicitor to plead their “ poor deprived little Johnny “ case and a prison system that they can hang around in for a few weeks with their mates before they are back out again . There’s absolutely nothing to fear because they know the system is a joke

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493527#Comment_121493527

nothing to do with their living arrangements, you don't get spanish teenagers carrying on like this and they all grow up in flats. i think it's just a cultural thing, parts of inner city dublin and other rough areas just have this culture of scumbaggery passed down the generations. robbing, starting on people, smashing things up, breaking into things, being a mad bastard, robbing cars, etc. etc. all part of a toxic culture in those communities, much like the travelling community has bad aspects to their culture. not sure how to stop it really.

Floppybits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493745#Comment_121493745

Was about to say the same. My mother grew up in those same flats in town, in a 2 bed flat with her 6 siblings, her mother and her grandmother all in the one flat. There are lots of other people who also grew up in those flats that have not gone involved in anti social or criminal behavior.

I kinda agree it is generational but the real problems started with drugs problems in the inner city in the 80's and what we are seeing now are a couple of generations of kids that have grown up with out parenting, being left to fend for themselves while the parents were on the drugs.

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493644#Comment_121493644

The inner city flats thing has never worked. We're hundreds of years into it now. What chance are we giving kids growing up here?! Too small to have mates round so if you want to socialise, its out onto the city streets. No gardens to play in, no room to bring mates in for a bit of gaming or watch TV etc.

Where do they go for a game of football even?! Theres nothing for them to do.

Have you seen the inside of some of these flats? Shocking for 2023. When society treats kids like ****, dont be surprised when they treat society like ****. And so will their kids.

And yeah, covid really pushed a lot of people over the edge of giving a **** about anything.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/covid-19-in-a-cramped-inner-city-flat-it-felt-like-the-walls-were-closing-in-1.4391636

Infestation of rats

Nearby are the Oliver Bond House flats, built in 1936. While well-designed for their time, they were not built for a modern pandemic.

The 397 flats are in 16 four-storey blocks. The average two-bed is 47-53sq m, far smaller than the mandatory 73-90sq m minimum today. Many are overcrowded, with little ventilation or storage space. During the first lockdown, residents suffered an infestation of rats – an issue that has not yet been eliminated.

There are two tiny playgrounds and no gardens. The only green area nearby is a small grassy patch at St Audoen’s Church.