Eviction after 50 years

shangobango

It is an inheritance and an executer sale in order to pay a huge tax bill

HerrKuehn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275110#Comment_120275110

Where are you getting this info from?

shangobango

The husband is an electrician with the ESB. Likely could afford current rents.

This really is a case of tenants going too far and taking advantage of current climate on the back of people who really need government support

TheChizler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120274248#Comment_120274248

Why would you say it's a temporary solution? Many people have no interest or ability to buy property. It's pretty normal in the rest of Europe. For many here it's normal, I know of people in their 80s and 90s who are renting. Now lately financially it doesn't make sense but that's a relatively recent thing.

HeidiHeidi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275168#Comment_120275168

Because the way things are set up here, it's not a permanent solution. We just don't have long-term security of tenure for tenants.

Yes, there's longER security of tenure in recent years, but you can still be evicted for various reasons. So you can't depend on a tenancy to last you a lifetime. And then you're at the mercy of the rental market, which currently is an unholy mess.

herbalplants

Lazy asses, they loved to rent for nothing and took no responsibility for their own lives. They should be going to Leitrim now and take their violin with them. Why do they even write an article about them, like why do they waste energy on these wasters!

HerrKuehn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275192#Comment_120275192

It is also the case in Germany that you can be evicted after 30 years for the same "own use" (known as eigenbedarfskündigung). In general it is much better to get your own property even in other countries. Somewhere like Austria might be the rare exception.

Kimbot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275120#Comment_120275120

Have you got a source for this information?

HeidiHeidi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275281#Comment_120275281

WTF are they doing posting personal information about people on a public forum?

HerrKuehn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275289#Comment_120275289

The people have gone semi public already anyway. I would say they have been inviting further scrutiny if they are looking to have the council purchase the property to keep them in situ.

ELM327

This is a privately owned house, the landlord is allowed to sell his property and has no obligation to provide social housing. Whats the issue?

HeidiHeidi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275292#Comment_120275292

The article starts off with "the family, who wishes to remain anonymous".

What bit of that entitles some randomer to post personal details of them on an open forum?

That's up there with "ah sure they're a politician/rugby player/tv star, they asked for it"

Whatever the merits of their issue and the case RBB is making for them, they don't deserve to be doxxed on boards.

HerrKuehn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275311#Comment_120275311

Mr Barrett made an “urgent” appeal for the government to instruct local authorities to allow the tenant in situ purchase scheme to apply to people who are over the income threshold in cases of homelessness.

He wants the state to buy the property in Blackrock and house them there, probably for €30 a week.

Kintarō Hattori

I grew up in a council estate. My father paid rent to the local council, how much I don't remember but it was certainly lower than a mortgage at the time. At some point, I think in the early 90s, he was given the option of buying the house from the council, the amount asked was a no-brainer. Other people in the estate were given the same option, yet many chose not to take the council up on their once in a lifetime offer. Sometimes people turn off their logic filter when making decisions. As has been pointed out, what has that family done with their money for the last 40 years.

HerrKuehn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275325#Comment_120275325

They aren't looking to be left alone, they are specifically looking for the state to help them. So they really have to accept that the value of the house, the level of rent, their financial situation would come out. Nobody knows specifically who they are, so they are still anonymous, but their case is not.

Maryorio

I know the landlord's (who did die) family and it is a case of the executor carrying out duties. It is very unfair to society and all those struggling to pay rent for this family to claim poverty, as they have been paying a pittance for the entire tenancy. As mentioned in the article they are above social housing and HAP thresholds. Any decent person would count their blessings for getting away with such low rents for all that time and join the rest of us in the real world.

Princess Calla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275289#Comment_120275289

Did the tenants not go public themselves?

This is what happens when you abuse a sweet deal.

Why did the woman never move out of her mother's house? Cos they knew they had a sweet deal.

They've been underpaying market rent for years. I presume the landlord was fairly elderly considering how long they've been tenants....it could be argued that they took advantage/exploited the situation.

When you go public with a sob story that isn't really a sob story, there will be plenty of people who knows the facts*waiting to bring them down.

* I've no idea if what's posted is fact , but I'd love to know what the rent is, what's their employment....why they didn't move out like normal couples do when starting a family. What's their assets etc.

HeidiHeidi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275344#Comment_120275344

Again, why does the fact that they're looking for the state to assist them entitle the world to know their personal business?

And to have that personal business posted on public forums by either a randomer who's either making it up or somehow found out some info, or someone known them who knows their personal business (I'm not sure which is worse, tbh).

SuperBowserWorld

I think the concept of responsibility and paying your way, and being paid for a job based on the quality of the work and its need in society, and contributing to society are just not concepts in fairy tail Ireland. That's why everyone wants to live here. It's magic. It's like Harry **** Potter.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275364#Comment_120275364

if what has been posted here is correct, and it might not be, then RBB can feck off with looking for sympathy for them. If you only release half the story in an attempt to get sympathy then don't be surprised if the other half doesn't reach the public domain.

RichardAnd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275332#Comment_120275332

I think that Mr Barrett should be asking the OWNER of the house whether he/she wishes to sell. The house is private property, and if the owner does not wish to sell the house, then that is their business. Barrett and the rest of his "socialist" wastrel comrades are part of what has brought us to the mess that we're in.

HerrKuehn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275364#Comment_120275364

If you are looking for sympathy, make sure you make all of the facts available. The state really just consists of the citizens, so I think people have a right to know if you are expecting the state to buy a house for 800k while you pay €30 rent a week for 40 years. It is basically trying to deceive in order to get an advantage. There are a million better things the state could be spending money on.

kaymin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275364#Comment_120275364

No-one knows who they are though. We know the personal business of anonymous individuals - what's the issue?

rainbowtrout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275095#Comment_120275095

Hmm, in old money that converts back to £25 so that's a very long time without a rise in rent.

Gusser09

Hard to blame the family.

RBB is a dose. Genuine working people struggling in society who work and have all of the bills that go with living because the work and don't qualify for the Welfare yet he champions the case of these muppets.

People before profit my hole.

pc7

Of course the family wish to remain anonymous cause its an absolute joke what they are looking for. They gave up their right when they have RBB on a soapbox whinging for them and asking for the house to be purchased. There is always another side to these stories, remember Margaret Kelly with the 7 kids, people will look for others to pay their way for them and take no responsibility whatsoever.

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275332#Comment_120275332

And the taxpayers picks up the tab. Maybe the taxpayers have a right to be informed, especially those struggling with 30 year mortgages and commuting far from where they grew up.

Is this deal going to be on the table for everyone?

HerrKuehn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275434#Comment_120275434

Similar to the poor elderly couple in Killiney being evicted from their 2m house. They didn't mention that they had 30 rental properties. RBB went quiet after that came out.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120275168#Comment_120275168

Because renting is a 6 year cycle in Ireland, every six years or earlier there is a possibility you will be evicted if the Landlord decides to do something else with the property. There appears to be a lot of people that think a rental property is theirs indefinitely and eviction notices come as a big surprise, then its off to the papers to see if they can invoke some public outrage. While renting might be a permanent solution for some its foolish to think that the rental property is permanently yours.

StrawbsM

Bit rich looking for the state to buy the house for them if they already own a house. They’ve been paying less than many in social housing.