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5 Black police officers charged over death of Tyre Nichols



  • Registered Users Posts: 998 ✭✭✭ Deub

    The fact you don’t see it is worrying. The cops shouldn’t have done it in both cases.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,804 ✭✭✭✭ Strazdas

    I suspect though the problem is with individual state forces rather than the entire 'US police force'. I bet if we drilled down into the statistics, we'd find that certain states (or perhaps even individual cities) have a much higher rate of police brutality than other states or cities. So, it's not necessarily a country wide problem.....but the police culture in certain states is probably a horrendous one. The way they interact with people is something you'd rarely see in Europe. Those guys on that video looked and sounded more like a bunch of vigilantes or members of a drugs gang rather than police officers.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 36,057 ✭✭✭✭ Boggles

    The unit was called "Scorpion".

    The whole department should be now open to a whole independent review with particular attention on what this unit did and what they were allowed do.

    This is certainly not the first time this unit have dished out a punishment beating evidenced by the wanton disregard for human life and their actions throughout.

  • Registered Users Posts: 34,344 ✭✭✭✭ Gatling

    That's a horrendous watch but unfortunately too common in America,pure hate by a bunch of goons in uniform,

    it wasn't race hate ,

    Just pure hate and unnecessary violence for a traffic stop, they sit him up against a car and start fabricating their stories about him grabbing their guns and resisting arrest,

    America needs a reset of all of their Police forces not defunding, complete resets and new oversights put in place and remove the need for grand jury's in cases of police brutality

    Langley, Virginia

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭ Sexual Chocolate

    Some campaigners and journalists are still claming that this was a racial incident even though the cops are all black ? Many others are saying that race needs to be kept out of this which I tend to agree with. It's police brutality in it's clearest form. There is no point in turning people against one another over this which is usually what happens in America.

    Probably not the best comparison to be using but I can't help but wonder are we supposed to think of these 5 men as something similar to Samuel l Jackson horrible character in Djanjo Unchanged who berated, belittled and abused people of his own race to impress his white master. Boyz in the hood also touched on it as well with a black cop who clearly hates black people. If so it's sad that's it's really come to that and shows how screwed up America really is.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭ Sexual Chocolate

    Definitely worse imo. The outraged instant act of physical violence from the start makes this more harrowing. And you probably safely assume it's not the first time these lads done something like this.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭ jackboy

    Nah. Possibly one of them could be such a character, but five who work together, not a chance. We will find out a lot more about these guys in the next few days I suspect and there are angles we are not aware of yet.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭ Sexual Chocolate

    Yeah now that the video has been put out next will probably be their service records and complaints ect.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭ joseywhales

    Man this post took a twist for the worse just at the end. Can we not just say they were both unjustified horrendous acts?

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭ amacca

    I keep thinking there has to be a lot more to it myself

    They didn't just snap and out of the blue do that....there's probably a string of stuff we are not aware of....

    Or there's some link and it's not just someone they hadn't previous with in some way....

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭ Be right back

    No, there's absolutely no excuse for what they did to Tyre. None. Any mention about the paramedics who did not seem to help him at all?

  • Registered Users Posts: 34,344 ✭✭✭✭ Gatling

    Maybe the knew not to get involved out of fear ,

    Langley, Virginia

  • Registered Users Posts: 34,344 ✭✭✭✭ Gatling

    Maybe it's gotten to the point with police brutality that they can beat a person to death knowing that they are safe from any kind of prosecution or conviction,they will be backed to the hilt by their department,colluges and unions , they will be getting told that they have been fitted up and are fine outstanding people just trying to do their jobs

    Langley, Virginia

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭ riffmongous

    They were kicked out as far as I know, no word of criminal charges

  • The George Floyd killing had nothing on this, as bad as that was. The cruelty and wanton disregard for a human being in this case is chilling to the bone. I'm sorry I watched the video now and I think there should be serious questions asked of others in the video not just the police.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,867 ✭✭✭ AllForIt

    That's what I always think when you see those clips of people kicking ppl in the head with the victim laying on the ground. I mean do they think they are just inflicting some temporary pain but you know no real damage done.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,713 ✭✭✭✭ Potential-Monke

    Plus, cops are most likely wearing steel toecaps...

  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Honesty Policy

    It definitely seems like there was something personal going on here. Especially if they were 'rehabilitated' gang members who joined the police force.

    What a horrific and brutal murder, the worse I have ever seen by people who are supposedly there to protect us.

  • Registered Users Posts: 51,072 ✭✭✭✭ walshb

    But a balance is needed. Cops need to be very firm, but not brutal.

  • Registered Users Posts: 51,072 ✭✭✭✭ walshb

    Yes, but you can’t have brutality. I have no issue with cops needing to be tough and firm.

    And yes, big issue today is society slating and criticising and condemning good police officers who are doing good jobs due to certain sections of society ready to shout brutality over any kind of physicality that cops use..

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,361 ✭✭✭✭ Danzy

    If they were ex gang members it explains a lot.

    The Scorpion unit was targeting Street crime in areas of high criminality.

    High crime in Memphis and such areas would be considered low level civil war in most of the world. Memphis has a significant gang problem and a culture of glorified criminality like most urban African American areas.

    What we see from this is a further reduction of police in these communities.

    It's a downward spiral, the response to this should be better police training, more police, stricter day to day policing, instead the activists will force police out, the activists will go to their White suburbs and the community will have no protection.

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