MG 4

AMKC

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mg/357426/new-mg-4-electric-hatch-arrives-280-miles-range

liamog

Nice to see another family hatch on the market. There's starting to be some real choice in the segment

eagerv

A good looker as well, to be welcomed.

TitianGerm

The back and side is lovely but not sure about the front, it looks a bit pointy or something.

It'll be interesting to see what it's priced at. Will it make €30K after grants? If it is there'll be a massive wait list on them.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119267535#Comment_119267535

Yes there has been at least 3 launched in the last two days alone from Hyundai, Citroen and MG.

Alun

https://www.mg.co.uk/new-cars/mg4-ev

I see the new MG 4 has launched in the UK with prices starting at £25,995 for the base SE model

MG4 SE - £25,995

MG4 SE Long Range - £28,495

MG4 Trophy Long Range - £31,495

Looks very interesting. I was half considering a ZS EV face lift but for me the exterior styling is a bit meh. This looks a lot better.

AMKC

It's certainly not boring. A pity there is not more MG dealers in this Country

Even Daewoo had more dealers when they were here.

Alun

Yes, not that many dealers, but there's two in Dublin and one each in Galway, Limerick and Cork so the ones that are there are in the major population centres. No doubt if the brand grows there may be more in time.

Out of interest, of the two Dublin based dealers, Frank Keane and Linders, which of them would be the best to deal with? For me in N. Wicklow neither are ideal to be honest but if anyone has any experience of either it'd be good to know.

FaganJr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058257583/new-mg-4-prices-announced-in-uk

Certainly gonna raise a few Euro manufacturers eyebrows!

Which is a good thing, would consider this car if I were in the market.

Miscreant

I'd like to see it in the flesh as I am in two minds about the front of it but could be a contender if it is priced right. The MG range seems to offer good value for money right now so if this fits in just below the MG5 in price (close to €30k) then I think it will sell well.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119432655#Comment_119432655

Would you consider a Ssangyong? It's not out yet here bit the Korando e-Motion is due here next year sometime.

Ssangyong have a lot more dealers here too.

https://youtu.be/_Sef8kCDh9g

No harm Going to you local dealer and enquiring about it.

FaganJr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119434062#Comment_119434062

But that is an SUV and it's not very nice at all or does it look to be very will priced either. Thats a hard pass from me and there's a dealer close to me.

MG is an hour away.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119437308#Comment_119437308

Your choice. Ye it's not as cheap as it should be but it's a very spacious SUV.

Still no harm in trying out a petrol one do and enquiring about the electric one.

Alun

It's in a different size class to the MG though. Currently I drive a Kia niro, and this thing is not only Sportage sized, but wouldn't win any beauty contests either. It isn't all about price.

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119437949#Comment_119437949

The old Leaf is a lot nicer looking than that. And that's saying something 🤣 (as a current owner of 2 of em)

Alun

I just read over on SpeakEV that later on there's also going to be an Extended range model with a 77kwh battery, capable of up to 329 miles (529 km).

Red Silurian

Am I correct in saying the UK have removed all their grants for new EVs? So the £26k that's mentioned above could easily translate to €26k over here with the grants?

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119470804#Comment_119470804

It'll be more like €32k after grants here, if it arrives.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119473833#Comment_119473833

Because of the Treasure Ireland effect?

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119474789#Comment_119474789

VAT, VRT and the Ireland factor indeed. Even the MG ZS has gone up in price to almost €40k at this stage.

Still a good looking car and a value proposition though.

Grumpypants

I think it will be well within the 25 to 30k mark.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119478648#Comment_119478648

According to mg.ie the ZS EV Excite is €34,4952 and the Exclusive is €37,4952, on the UK site they have more trim levels and range from £29,495 (€35k) to £34,495 (41k) which is fairly close to parity so I see no reason why the 4 wouldn't follow this trend

I presume the Irish figures include grants while the British ones don't

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119481388#Comment_119481388

You still have to pay for metallic paint and the usual delivery charges so the Exclusive comes very close to €40k. There are dealers advertising MGs well above the price on the website (one place is advertising Excite models for €38k and delivery some time in 2023). That is why I believe the MG4 will not be got for less than €32k, if it ever arrives here and I wouldn't be surprised if it even tips into €35k.

AMKC

So it has been getting great reviews so far. Good to see. Just a pity the interior is so dark.

it's also a very decent drive according to them too.

mc2022B2TF

good luck getting an MG in the next 12 months - taximen have all the MG5s and MG Ireland have no clue whatsoever when they are getting more. not sure who is worse MG or Skoda...........

If u want a MG4 then get in line with your fingers crossed.

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119518203#Comment_119518203

Is the MG4 order book even opened up for Ireland yet???????.

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119519908#Comment_119519908

It isn't even listed on their website and no Irish prices have been announced yet.

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521162#Comment_119521162

Indeed.

But the poster was talking of get in line and cross fingers.

But I'm not aware of a line to join.

celtic_oz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZXBbc73To

It’s priced between £25,995 for the 51kWh standard range model with up to 217 miles of WLTP ability, up to the £31,495 Trophy with a bigger 64kWh battery. Test car - an SE with the big battery - can manage 281 miles on a full charge. 

Grumpypants

The press are getting their hands on it this week and next so expect lots more reviews.

This from top gear

"an equivalent VW ID.3 costing over £36k, a Long Range SE MG4 at £28,495 (with more kit and arguably a nicer drive) is only limited by badge-snobbery.

As well as the ID.3, you’ve got the Peugeot e-208 and Vauxhall Corsa-e Stellantis siblings, plus the Renault Zoe (or maybe the Megane E-Tech Electric), Mini Electric, Honda e, Nissan Leaf and (recently deceased) BMW i3 in the small electric car segment. The MG4 has found a niche among that lot and exploited it brilliantly.

WHAT'S THE VERDICT?

“When you dig into what the MG4 does for the money, it's probably the only car in the class to recommend”

Miscreant

Looks better in the video than any of the pictures I have seen. If MG can get these in any reasonable quantity into Ireland then it will sell well for sure. What with VW and most of the other manufacturers being unable to get stock on the ground, MG could well be close to the top of the sales charts for a while next year.

Grumpypants

I don't know who takes MGs photos but all their cars look way better in the flesh. I guess it's the old estate agent trick of taking an okay photo then you are happier when you see the real thing, which is better than the other way around.

theinferior

Derek's preview is up:

https://youtu.be/WCfYr2swTR0

DaveyDave

Surprised to see so many MGs on the road, I barely even knew they were back when I started seeing them everywhere. Nice looking car with a bold colour. It will probably take some of the attention away from my Cupra Born when it eventually arrives :(

Wonder what price the bigger battery top trim will be priced at to compare to the Born. I don't believe there's many 45kWh ID.3s out there, I don't know when they started selling them as it was only available as 58kWh for a long time and the Born isn't available as 45kWh at all. I'd say the MG will sell well as a smaller battery model. Not everyone needs 400km in a hatchback.

Nice to see something that isn't a poxy crossover!

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119529059#Comment_119529059

45 kwh ID3 was never sold here as far as I am aware. They intended to sell it but supply issues must have stopped it.

The Cupra Born was intended to have a 45 kwh version at 31 k pre Ukraine war but never happened.

TitianGerm

https://youtu.be/ZwpMJnz6NsM

Few reviews coming 9ut now and all seem positive.

mc2022B2TF

sure ye cant beat it with a stick - £11k cheaper than an ID 3 and is probably a better car. Certainly tech wise - like it even has V2L which most reviews seem to have missed.

Snap one up while ye can.

AMKC

Now all MG need is more dealers in the country.

Maybe Some of the Ssangyong Dealers should change to MG seen as it looks like poor Ssangyong are dead.

What Subura dealers are left should too because that is another make in this Country that is simply not selling any cars here anymore.

Alun

https://youtu.be/WCfYr2swTR0

I see that for some bizarre reason they're not keeping the same model names here as the UK (SE and Trophy), but Excite and Exclusive respectively just to confuse matters. Looks like the specs will be the same though, but why bother? Still no prices.

DaveyDave

Funny how the ID.3 touch heating/volume controls were absolutely crucified by every single reviewer yet having to go into menus to change temperatures in the MG4 is acceptable. People do nothing but complain about having to go into menus to change anything in new cars, this car doesn't get a pass because it's cheaper!

Also no lumbar support yet you get an electric driver seat in the top trim? I understand there's cost cutting like no rear arm rest or no passenger electric seat but how do you not put in lumbar in favour of an electric seat that has the same basic adjustment as a manual seat? If it doesn't have tilt, adjustable thigh support or lumbar they should have stuck with a manual seat, it would be lighter and also one less thing to potentially fail long term.

There's obviously a lot to like about the car but there's definitely some fairly odd choices on the inside.

mc2022B2TF

I'm gonna throw a deposit down on one of these as soon as I can, to use as the 2nd car in the family. Great value.

mc2022B2TF

i'm fascinated to see what price this is going to be in ireland - will we get rid or not? considering it will qualify for full vrt relief and seai grant it really should be considerably cheaper than in the uk - let's see how much they gouge us for in the irish market. It should be easily sub 30k but i have a feeling it won't be...............

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119577129#Comment_119577129

I won't be holding my breath with the way things are going in this country, but I could be pleasantly surprised if it is below the €30k mark. Still represents great value anyway when you compare it to the competition's offerings.

Om a slightly side note..... I think that red is the colour to go for 😁

FaganJr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119577954#Comment_119577954

Isn't it Zoe priced in UK, should be the same here?

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119578276#Comment_119578276

Should be, indeed. That is why I will be pleasantly surprised if it is, once it gets here. 🙂

DaveyDave

Something like a high spec Ibiza is over €30k these days, an EV that isn't the size of a shoe for €30k is probably big ask! But as I said, there's definitely space for a sub-€40k 300km hatchback until VW start offering their 45kWh models. People aren't doing 300-400km every day so don't need big batteries.

Old diesel

Prices are in

(Via Derek Reilly on Facebook)

Standard range excite €27,495

Long range excite €30,995

Long range exclusive €34,495.

Pretty good tbh.

Cheaper then a new Golf at entry level.

banie01

Long range exclusive could well be the next Car for my house.

Markbro1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119677048#Comment_119677048

On the road prices are a bit more.

Approx. €29,500 on the road including metallic for the standard range....

€3.5k increments for next 2 models

mc2022B2TF

Yeah but when is the estimated delivery thats the big question.

But prices not too bad albeit it more expensive than the UK. And considering we have grant and vrt allowance that really shouldn't be the case.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119677048#Comment_119677048

Obviously that's the post grant price?

I think I'll stick a deposit on the entry level model.