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Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread



  • Registered Users Posts: 843 ✭✭✭sameoldname

    If you guessed hard enough, you probably might get it.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,641 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes

    Anyone know if there is a central portal for volunteering re Ukraine refugees? Or where to get the information other than trawling through the internet for every likely charity/organisation.

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,483 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12

    The refugees are entitled to full social welfare. This includes rent allowance. They don't get this in the UK, this is why they are offering money to homeowners there. In Ireland you can charge rent if you want & the state will pay rent allowance

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭mrslancaster

    From the linked article:

    "Officials are examining whether up to 8,000 homes, currently vacant because their owners are in the care of nursing homes under the Fair Deal scheme, could be used to accommodate Ukrainian refugees"

    How would that work?

    If someone is in the Fair Deal Scheme and their house is currently vacant, does the Minister want to do some sort of compulsory acquisition to house refugees?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,483 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12

    Just a guess but I guessing government might wave fair deal payment if they are allowed to use the home

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭Collie D

    You really are a delight.

  • Registered Users Posts: 76,293 ✭✭✭✭Overheal

    Who isn't sticking up for themselves in this current affair??

    The article doesn't report why precisely these families are 'returning' refugees.

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,483 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12

    Totally agree

    When they say some were returned, they dont say how many. Even families taking in foreign students each year would sometimes return a student because they don't get on.

    The main problem is that the red cross has actually housed very few so far. They haven't even inspected many homes. Hundreds upon hundreds of people organised their own refuges through Facebook. The vast majority of those housed so far haven't been through the red cross. The homes weren't inspected & deemed suitable. The homeowners weren't checked and no one explained what to expect.

    I do think if the red cross moved quicker homeowners & refugees would be better matched.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo

    That would be an almighty slap in the face to the electorate, so many potential issues with the approach.

    So they will definitely do it

  • Posts: 0 Naomi Dry Seaweed

    I think the Red Cross are concentrating on larger accommodation like hotels, disused convents etc. they’re only too aware of the difficulties that families could face taking traumatised strangers from a war torn country into their homes.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,686 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1

    Rent allowance, no longer exists and HAP will not be an option

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭apache

    I did notice a lot of refugees had animals with them. I thought they'd have to leave them behind because of papers, quarantine etc.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭apache

    Anyone know why the accomodation pledged was unsuitable?

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,686 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1

    No, the Department of Agriculture stepped in and paid for shots etc , estimated to be €100 per pet , there was also a relaxation of documentation requirements.

    I'm curious will all these hotels be so welcoming of pets 🤔

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,483 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12

    HAP is most definitely an option. They are entitled to full social welfare rights here in Ireland. A lot of the houses that were pledged are rental properties. HAP will be paying the rent.

    I think you don't understand what the pledge is all about. The pledge is for accommodation. It's not exclusively for free accommodation. You can of course offer it for free but you can also change rent & HAP will pay the rent.

    It's been mentioned by the government that some fair deal homes might be made available. The plan is for the government to pay rent to the homeowners and it won't effect their fair deal scheme. This rent will be paid via HAP

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