Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

Dohnjoe

Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs responding to it's Russian counterpart

https://twitter.com/ivanastradner/status/1683941437182980096

rgossip30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120883573#Comment_120883573

Any day now Russia will surrender and will be beaten back . The counter offensive is on track to accomplish this .

Nody

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120897877#Comment_120897877

Yes; the war is going so well for Russia that they raised the conscription age and they are requesting employees to go work for free to help with production volume which the defence minister has stated needs to be maintained higher due to attrition at the front...

jmreire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120897877#Comment_120897877

One way or the other Putin has doomed Russia. What ever shape or form Russia will take after the war, it will never return to its pre invasion "Glory". That day has gone, and every day that passes it draws further away. Sure it will drag on, but entirely dependent on scraps from Xi's table, or sales or its oil and gas at rock bottom prices, and all the time squeezing the Russian population into smaller and smaller space's. For sure, Putin is not winning on any front.

rgossip30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120898075#Comment_120898075

Ukraine will be victorious soon its a mighty well funded and trained army .

grumpyperson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120897005#Comment_120897005

Gorbachev has apparently given conflicting accounts. You can read the US government archives I linked if you like, nothing to do with Russia propaganda that I know of.

What’s your next Russian propaganda talking point

That's just incredibly rude and dismissive.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120898701#Comment_120898701

There have been no genuine indications Putin's administration wants to end the war.

Earlier this year a US intelligence leak found that:

The analysis concludes that, even if Ukraine recaptures “significant” amounts of territory and inflicts “unsustainable losses on Russian forces,” an outcome U.S. intelligence finds unlikely, the nation’s gains would not lead to peace talks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/12/leaked-documents-ukraine-war/

Basically Putin will keep going until his military is no longer able to do the job or some domestic situation causes him to change course.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120897264#Comment_120897264

Should never have happened,

What a ridiculous thing to do to child

saabsaab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120899738#Comment_120899738

In other news..

'US Military Launches Three-Day Special Military Mission into Canada Amid Escalating Tensions

In an unprecedented move, the US military has launched a three-day special military mission into Canada amidst escalating tensions along the shared border. The operation comes in response to President Trump's claims of Canada's alleged allegiance to foreign powers and persecution of US populations in Alaska and the northern regions.

The military incursion has sparked widespread concern, as it signifies a significant escalation in hostilities between the two neighboring nations. US special forces are now attempting to take government buildings in Ottawa. The international community closely watches the situation, anxious about the potential consequences of this military action.

As the three-day window unfolds, diplomatic efforts to defuse the situation are strained, but crucial. Global leaders urgently call for an immediate ceasefire and constructive dialogue to prevent further escalation and find a peaceful resolution to the crisis. The UK has pledged to support Canada with whatever means available.

The world awaits the outcome of this high-stakes mission, hoping for a de-escalation of tensions and a return to stability in the once-amicable relationship between the United States and Canada.'

Unthinkabke, I know but this is the equivalent of what Putin has done.

Quin_Dub

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@grumpyperson - Don't post in this thread again.

rgossip30

We desperately need to put more money and munitions into continuing the war in Ukraine and helping those effected by the war whatever the cost .

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902763#Comment_120902763

There is a massive shortage of ammunition not just in Ukraine but across NATO ,and the majority of old Soviet equipment and weapons has already been given, going forward America will be pretty much the only one able to send equipment and munitions.

bear1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120904546#Comment_120904546

Which is a bloody scary thought.

rgossip30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120904546#Comment_120904546

Lets hope the US sends F16 's to finish the job and move into Russia after the Russian army retreats .

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120897264#Comment_120897264

In no context in Irish society can you hold somebody's racial origin/nationality against them to exclude them from a commercial activity. Its not excessive to award against that and €1,500 isn't a fortune.

Its been a PR disaster in the world of tennis with players like Medvedev being restricted at times. It doesn't play well with ordinary people aren't in the grip of war hysteria.

Economics101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120915197#Comment_120915197

I would agree with you but only partly. First, "Russian" is not a racial category, it's more nationality or maybe ethnic origin (but people with Russian passports may be from many ethnicities within the Russian Federation). Second, I would be happier is the €1,500 were simply a fine on the guilty party, and perhaps it should have been €15,000 to act as a deterrent. I'm a little uneasy at the way money seems to "compensate" for an injustice, other than in cases whare the injustice has had specific financial costs.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120915124#Comment_120915124

F16s aren't going to change anything in Ukraine, unfortunately,it's turned into a meat grinder for both sides ,it's ground forces they need

Dohnjoe

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Economics101

The Russian land grab in Ukraine gets worse. What is particularly shocking is what is happening in Mariupol. Some Russians are so taken in by Kremlin propaganda that they are willing to invest all they have in buying a flash new apartment with a sea view. Never mind the bodies buried under the foundations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-66393949

johnnyskeleton

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120904546#Comment_120904546

What ammunition exactly is there a shortage of? Is this the whole shortage of unguided 155 shells issue again? The EU is planning to procure a million shells for Ukraine. Thats not nothing, but again has to be seen in the context of the US / EU and indeed Ukraine having a preference for more expensive guided ammunition

saabsaab

I wonder if there is some Russian weak spot that Ukraine could target to cripple their efforts?

I mean USAAF rightly attacked the ball bearing plants in Germany in WW2 (mainly located in one area) to cripple the war effort.

'After the war, interviews with A Speer revealed that the October 14th attack destroyed almost forty percent of Schweinfurt’s total production capacity. If the bombers had returned shortly thereafter, he concluded, German armament production would have been at a standstill.'

bear1

Seems Wagner are being kicked out of Belarus and lukashenko has asked for talks with Warsaw.

Kerch bridge seems to have been bombed again.

Nody

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120969058#Comment_120969058

Well Lukashenko assumed/was part of the deal that Russia would pay Wagners salaries, camp costs etc. and when he was told he'd have to foot the bill himself he told 'em to sod off (beyond the handful used to train his soldiers). I think in a decade or two when the real deal details leaks we'll find out what was there.

bear1

I’m guessing we can already assume what their need was to be placed as close to nato borders as possible. And of all border areas, the one closest linking Belarus to Kaliningrad.

I would hazard it was a psychological game against the west to test their reaction.

Poland placing 10 thousand troops at the border and closing off most crossings doesn’t really help Belarus in the slightest.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120969058#Comment_120969058

It's getting tremendously boring looking at media report the Russian "terrorist attack" line every time Ukraine launches a drone or missile.

Looks like the current attacks on the bridge have been foiled but it would great to see that thing come crashing down and I honestly couldn't give a shte how many "innocent" Russians are on it.

bear1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120969479#Comment_120969479

Well, I wouldn’t go that far. There are people that have nothing to do with it, I.e children.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120969781#Comment_120969781

Well the Russians have already gone "that far" and the only way I see this war ending is for the Russian public to start getting it as bad as the Ukrainian public.

Can't be dealing with this sht of the Russians bawling like the US and British did when a small few people on home soil were killed by people from countries they bombed to oblivion.

Ide rather no one died but the people who are putting Russian children at risk and the people getting Russian children killed are the Russians.

ilkhanid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120969805#Comment_120969805

Eh? The Americans never bombed Saudi Arabia.

Run Forest Run

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120887545#Comment_120887545

The truth is, Russia has done an excellent job on the battlefield. But western propaganda will always deny this fact.

This war was essentially over at the back end of last year. Russia heavily fortified their positions through the winter, and now the Ukrainians/Nato are facing a near impenetrable defensive line. It is basically a suicide mission trying to advance through those lines. It doesn't matter how much weapons or materiel is given to the Ukrainians, as they are facing an impossible task now!

And if Russia continue to bleed the Ukrainian numbers at current rates, they may eventually decide to take even more territory in the future. This will leave Ukraine in a very poor position if they ever decide to come back to the negotiating table.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120995016#Comment_120995016

The Russian military have not done an "excellent job". One of the world's largest armies, they greatly outnumbered Ukraine. On paper, every analyst had them taking Ukraine in days to weeks. They failed, due to Ukraine's extraordinary defence, and also because the Russian military is bad in terms of quality and combined arms.

Their aim was to take Ukraine in a short period, which failed. They failed to hold everything East of the Dnipro, they were then unable to take and hold Donbas and they are losing their gains in Bahkmut. They are currently losing ground to a military with basically no air-force.

The key things stopping Ukraine are the massive minefields and defence in depth. If they (Ukraine) had gotten the equipment they needed on time, and earlier, it's likely Russian would be in a worse situation now.

The "Western media" repeatedly pointed out the specific difficulty of the counter-offensive and realities of attacking into these prepared lines. I pointed it out multiple times. (not to be confused with Ukrainian optimism).

And if Russia continue to bleed the Ukrainian numbers at current rates, they may eventually decide to take even more territory in the future.

Prisoners and 50 yr old men with 5 days training are not very good at taking territory. Any monkey can however operate artillery, and that's how Russia makes it's gains, they sacrifice low quality soldiers while pounding with artillery and using quantity. As we've seen, it's slow and doesn't make much progress. In terms of tactics, the Russians are learning, however in terms of quality they are only going downhill.

It might not solely be a question of Ukraine breaking through, rather the Russian military becoming of such low quality they simply can't function properly. There are already large cracks showing.

I don't expect much land to exchange hands this year, but am quietly optimistic that the Russians will continue to suffer high attrition and show more cracks. Going to the front-line is considered a death sentence for them and every day now we see groups of Russian troops openly complaining of conditions, and mil bloggers constantly complaining that morale is terrible. That's before F16s and ATACMS hit the battlefield.

Put it this way, I wouldn't be surprised if we even see partial collapses of the Russian military on their own behalf.