When will life go back to normal

Marymoore

When do people think life will go back 100% to how it was pre pandemic. No masks, everything normal, nobody thinking of covid like it was with the flu.. nightclubs full etc

Richard Hillman

Law and order will have to break down first. Governments are not giving back a lot of their "emergency powers". I often ask in the restrictions thread. Under what circumstances do you believe that the NPHET/Government will agree to lifting all restrictions?

Masks during winter are here forever. If Covid disappeared and a government is getting hammered over flu season, they'll bring in mask mandates to pretend they are doing something about it. This **** is here for life. They are chasing zero Covid.

Unless as I said, Law and Order breaks down.

When covid becomes nothing more than a bad flu

Or when we get to 100% vaccination which will mean the hospital systems will be able to get through the winters

A telling stat from todays briefing, we are at 93% vaccination (18yr+) and of the cases in hospital, 54% are from the 7% unvaccinated

CalamariFritti

I'm afraid richard hillman is probably right. we're fvcked really.

Chris_5339762

It's endemic now. Hopefully it'll calm down again after Christmas and winter, but I'm budgeting it being "a thing" for about 5 - 10 years.

Atlantic Dawn

The hope will be some country will lead the way and fully open up and accept that less than 0.3% of the population will die from it each and every year forever. Get people to understand that a healthy lifestyle will reduce their risks of being in this 0.3%.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118208118#Comment_118208118

That's very funny.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118208137#Comment_118208137

Self pity is not never the best option.

KaneToad

Hopefully never. Working from home becoming more mainstream is the best thing to ever happen for balanced nationwide development.

It doesn't effect me because my long term housing needs are secure. But, for many, they now have the real possibility of working remotely and expanding their choice of affordable living locations. It is great for our rural villages and provincial towns.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118208358#Comment_118208358

A large portion of the current unvaccinated residents in the ICU's around the country were fit and healthy

Strumms

reading this article... it seems like already ‘better vaccines’ are the answer..

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-15/better-covid-vaccines-are-coming-who-s-chief-scientist-says

they are not far away...more then 80 being studied and trialed.

Irish Stones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058219214/when-will-life-go-back-to-normal

I don't think life will ever go back 100% to how it was before this thing, at least in the terms you asked in your post.

Masks will be here for a long time, if not forever, and most restrictions and hygiene rules will never go away. People will talk and think of covid forever, and the suspicion that someone next to you on the bus, or in line with you at the checkout, might have a virus of any kind will never disappear, so you'd better keep some distance. Touching stuff and reaching for the hand sanitizers right away will be the norm.

Vaccines will be forever, twice a year, along with the vaccination cert to be shown wherever we go.

This will be our future life, the new norm, not the old one, nothing that resembles what it was until January 2020.

brickster69

About July 2021

Mrs OBumble

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118208385#Comment_118208385

Source?

Perseverance The Second

When the virus begins to get treated at a similar level of priority as the Winter Flu or when the virus burns out at a rate similar to the Spanish Flu.

Wanderer78

whats normal? theres a while left with this wee virus

namloc1980

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058219214/when-will-life-go-back-to-normal

Summers should be close to normal but I think we're in for crappy winters for much of this decade with masks, restricted capacity/hours in hospitality and of course the vaccine cert. The cert will be with us for a long time I fear.

mikekerry

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118209524#Comment_118209524

yes the cert is a key component in "getting" people to take the boosters otherwise the passes will expire.

Elmer Blooker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118209338#Comment_118209338

If you posted this kind of stuff a year ago in this forum the mods would have given you a warning and it would have been moved to the CT forum pronto.

Not now.

Irish Stones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118209586#Comment_118209586

Yes, I know, because I did post the same stuff a year ago and earlier this year and I was warned and told I was crazy and untrustful of science.

Well, here we are, a year later and my predictions weren't so far from reality, unfortunately.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118209524#Comment_118209524

I think summers will approach normal in other countries but not here. They've already shown that two summers in a row that they will string out measures all summer.

B.A._Baracus

Everything is in for a good few years to come. Too many variables. Like potentially new variants, rise in cases, icu numbers.

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058219214/when-will-life-go-back-to-normal

Pre-pandemic?

We'll get most of the way there but the world changed in January 2020. Some things are not going to be going back to as they were. What I find surprising is the lack of acceptance, in the west at any rate, of the gravity of what had occurred at the time. A pathogen emerging from tolerated wet markets in China (that's their story - there is the lab that happens to reside next door but lets give the benefit of the doubt), who played down and denied what was happening to the rest of the world, a country for 40 years the world has doing large amounts of business with.

And the implication as well because the consequences of this have yet to play out particularly in relation to how the world does business with China.

Thankfully this disease is what it is and not something much worse.

And that's the concern. If/when something like this occurs again would we be dealing with something many times worse and is that a risk the world wants to take in it's dealings with Asia generally, not just China?

The geopolitical consequences of this have yet to play out in my view.

Shelli2

Not until a vaccine that fully prevents contraction of the virus is developed or an easily accessible medication that treats and eradicates the virus at the first sign of symptom - there will never be a return pre-pandemic times until then - and even then a lot of changes will have become the new normal, and a lot for the better - working from home etc.

FintanMcluskey

Not sure what to tell the grandkids about this

In almost 2 years, only 1 in every 10 people in Ireland have caught a virus that has a median age of death greater than life expectancy, no notable excess deaths, nearly all deaths had serious underlying conditions, and many many cases were asymptomatic.

And we've posters suggesting we cant go back to normal.

munchkin_utd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118209991#Comment_118209991

the virus is mild if not completely inconsequential to a healthy vaccinated or recovered person.

Come next winter nearly all anti vaxxers should have caught the disease so be somewhat immune (or dead) and along with almost universal vaccination of the older people in Ireland , there'll not be much of an issue at all.

BanditLuke

I think it will probably take a few years as people are narrowly looking at vaccination or hospital numbers here for some sort of answer. I read recently that only 35% of the world's population is fully vaccinated and as long as that's the case there is no end in sight. I'm actually not that worried about this virus i'm more worried about what happens when something more deadly eventually makes it way into the world and our ability to cope both health wise with it but also mentally. Covid has completely f'ed up some peoples mental health and i think that's going to linger with them a long time.

the kelt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058219214/when-will-life-go-back-to-normal

Depends what country you're in?

Been to the UK lately?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118209431#Comment_118209431

Here

RTE news : Is enough being done to reach the unvaccinated?

http://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2021/1122/1262461-unvaccinated-hse-hospital-admissions/

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118210409#Comment_118210409

The new CSO numbers say, firstly, they’re often younger than the vaccinated people in the beds beside them – their median age is just 52.

Secondly, they’re comparably otherwise healthy. One in three unvaccinated patients in ICU had no underlying health condition.

Median age of 52 and only 1/3 of whom have no known underlying conditions - hardly young fit and healthy.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118210442#Comment_118210442

Compared to the stats at the beginning before the vaccination drive started, it's a big difference. Delta is taking out a lot of healthy folks now if they don't have the vaccine

Apothic_Red

Based on the Israel data about 2 months after the boosters are rolled out.

Plus the antivirals which are showing great promise.

How does Valentine's Day sound, or St. Brigid's Day

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118210237#Comment_118210237

Quite extraordinary all right.

The gas thing is that while all attempts are made to avoid death at all costs (covid death, I mean) the country is dead. Morally bankrupt, a spiritual desert, culture has been trashed, no values. And a lot of it happened pre-covid.

mcsean2163

The first modern law in Europe for the regulating of drugs was the Pharmacy Act 1868 in the United Kingdom.

It's 2021 now and gangs sell drugs instead of licensed businesses. It's hard to imagine a greater failure.

Maybe covid19 restrictions will be similar and continue for another 152 years? I hope not.

mcsean2163

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118208379#Comment_118208379

If it continues, I can't see why Google/ Facebook et al wouldn't leave for cheaper labour. It's grand if you're a government employee that doesn't have to do anything but can't see it being very attractive to corporations...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118213949#Comment_118213949

Source?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058219214/when-will-life-go-back-to-normal

We have 93% fully vaccinated. If we had intentions of going back to normal we would have done it already.

It's likely that nonsense such as masks and certs and almost mandatory boosters are here to stay.

And we'll probably use the pandemic as an excuse to try and destroy the supposed drink culture.

manutd2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118210451#Comment_118210451

its not, what do class as young nearly 99% deaths have underlying conditions and are over 65

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118215924#Comment_118215924

Not anymore, see the article I linked earlier in the thread

BruteStock

Not for a long time as this nation lives in abject terror of covid. Boris last July declared that as a nation they would face covid head on. They are in a better place than us because its lead to large portions of the population developing natural immunity.

50% of no-shows for boosters suggest we could soon be following the the Austrian model of tyrany and medical enslavement

manutd2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118216081#Comment_118216081

and what's the excuse for all the deaths last week and not one unvaccinated

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118216474#Comment_118216474

A single data point never tells a story.

You need to look at the data over an extended period otherwise its like saying one day last summer was 25 degrees which must mean the whole summer was that temperature

manutd2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118216545#Comment_118216545

no ****

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118216603#Comment_118216603

Glad you agree that focusing on a single data point is, well, pointless

DellyBelly

I suspect 17th of August 2022 however it could push out to the 14th of September 2022...it's a hard one to call

KaneToad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118214039#Comment_118214039

We'd still have some attractive qualities..EU, English speaking, corp tax, stable govt (relatively speaking) who are sympathetic to FDI.

We seem to be turning the corner again? so what happens when we start moving around again when everyone has the booster will it all be grand?

Tony Holohan made a brillent point last week, everyone in ICU with covid is there because of an entirely preventable virus. That is not blaming those who got it and ended up in ICU but it's a stark reminder of what is going on.

They are not there because of the aftermath of a transplant or a heart operation or a cancer operation or an accident the normal reasons why people are in ICU.

Danye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118218214#Comment_118218214

How is Covid entirely preventable? Unless you locked yourself away from the world and everyone in it?

Mrs OBumble

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118218214#Comment_118218214

Many cancers and heart diseases are also entirely preventable. More so than covod, even, because cigarettes aren't invisible.

Lollipop95

Life is back to normal in the UK. Will definitely be considering a move there, if we're still in the same place this time next year.

CalamariFritti

Todays corona poster boy (Israel atm) is tomorrows basket case. Rinse and repeat. We've been best in class once our twice ourselves, however briefly. Its been like this from the start.

Sick of this sh1t. Just let it fkn run and be done with it like England. What we've done to society, economy and everything is far worse already than covid could ever have been.