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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    The water charge protests got undermined by certain press outlets as well, most notably the Irish independent... Still, it managed to stop water charges



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    I'll be in Dublin supporting local businesses for a day of football watching. Hopefully with some news of when restrictions will be lifting by then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭growleaves


    The huge London protests against certs and restrictions were underreported and downplayed in the press but did not go unnoticed overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,038 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    You, and as far as I recall, one or two who thanked your post have been opposed to any and all restrictions or methods to reduce the number of deaths since Day 1. Thankfully nobody listened, and (with the limited restrictions left that will be practically gone by the time of your protest), in the words of Don McLean "their not listening still"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭dockysher


    Typical Irish approach, lets just sit here and do nothing. Too much trouble to protest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭dockysher





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭growleaves




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,930 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Sure we can just protest the pandemic away. Why did no one think of that before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    What time? If there isn't one already sorted I'd suggest 8pm to coincide with pubs closing and could help the numbers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭dockysher


    This shower in government have got away with empty promises for way too long now. Promised frontline workers bonuses etc for 2 years now, nothing.

    Everything going up in price, fuel, rent, houses etc, they do nothing. Homeless numbers higher than ever.

    Fake promises around restrictions for last 2 years as well.

    If you believe all restrictions will end before 2023 and after your crazy.

    There was more people in ICU in 2018, there was no virus.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭growleaves


    You're mistaken in your recollection.

    I spent the first while in this thread listing alternative sets of restrictions for posters who demanded of me "What *should*we do instead?" and gave my own list which was heavier on travel restrictions and lighter on isolation from family members.

    Maybe that was before you were posting/reading the thread though, I can't remember.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Unfortunately, I'm hosting a house party the night before.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Franz Ferdinand, Stereolab, Big Thief, The Cure, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Good man. The details are here upthread:

    No time mentioned but I will find out closer to it. The last one I was at was on in the afternoon. It goes on awhile, might be too dark by 8pm though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,161 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    No need thankfully, charlie says there are only limited restrictions now and that even they will be gone by the 22nd January.

    Only limited restrictions today, and all will be gone by 22nd January. Great news.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,930 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Why not reply to that poster then instead of me?



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,485 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Fandymo threadbanned



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,038 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    They also have twice the deaths per capita we have, but when people mention civil rights and freedom they somehow forget to include that little titbit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,038 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I wasn`t referring to this thread when I said you and some of those that thanked you have been opposed to any and all restriction or methods to reduce deaths since Day 1.



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The water changes protests were one of the most disgraceful chapters in the history of the “left” in this country. A free allowance for all, subsidies for those that can’t afford to pay, low cost for most average users but the high users paying. Instead you are left with the wealthy getting free, treated drinking water for their 6 bathrooms, swimming pools and sprinkler systems subsidised by the average persons tax. A very progressive taxation measure blocked by the Irish “left”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,686 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Complete nonsense.

    The water charges protest attracted support from every part of society, that's why they were effective. For the tens of thousands that protested on the street, many more simply refused to engage with the letters and bills from Irish Water.

    It was also about far more than "not wanting to pay". It was a protest against the privatisation of water provision, the sheer waste involved in the creation of the latest quango, and the "pay up or else" threats at a time that the Government stumbled from scandal to scandal.

    None of your revisionist history please



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭darconio


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    We can bulk buy these beauty ahead of the protest 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Apart from having a previous engagement, this ^^^ would be another reason not to attend a protest.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Franz Ferdinand, Stereolab, Big Thief, The Cure, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,885 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    A thing you have to wear otherwise you risk getting a fine.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Franz Ferdinand, Stereolab, Big Thief, The Cure, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭foxsake


    sorry for the delay.

    I've no idea why you have taken this line.

    for you to make an issue that I used the words "peers" in one sentence and then used an specific example in the reply is frankly bizarre.

    It is difficult to discuss anything if that's your method of debate.



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well my post was tongue firmly in cheek, and the approach to setting up Irish water was cack handed in the extreme, but the revisionism is on your side. It was a campaign entirely hijacked by the someone else should pay for everything brigade which resulted in excessive users of water getting free drinking water for their pools etc. Truth is though that access to clean drinking water is a utility that needs to be paid for, but should have been through a clear "polluter pays" model with a clear linkage to associated drop in USC or similar for everyone, paid for by those with excessive usage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭The HorsesMouth


    The absolute worst of the mask wearers are the family members who come to your house all decked out in masks and then proceed to take them off when sitting or eating. And you try explain that what they are doing is pointless??? Oh no...don't try get in the way of me "keeping people safe" and "doing the right thing".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    To quote the CMO from way back in March 2020, most people doing most things most of the time and they are not absolutely terrible habits. It's probably not going to stop too much but it makes people feel a little better, a positive in its own right. Leave them be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    Once and for all (probably not): masks help against heavy droplets spread by coughing and sneezing but not against smaller aerosols.

    So there you have it folks, it is not DO or DONT work. It is a matter of degree, a matter of scale. Other factors also come into play like indoors, outdoors, amount of time spent indoors, number of people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    We had cases from the hundreds down to single digits when masks were not mandated. And your local supermarket was the only place you could possibly congregate in.

    Now there is a Mask Arms Race going on and they are ****-talking about FFP2 masks. That'll save the day. That and HEPA filters.

    I'll give them 100% capacity public transport during winter. Everyone is packed in, it's tight, nobody wants a window open because it's freezing. Masks probably help then. But strolling around Tesco is Bollox. It's all theatre.



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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Care to hazard a guess as to the difference in size between molecules of Hydrogen Sulphide and Viruses encapsulated in respiratory droplets?

    All the "hilarious" t-shirt highlights is the ignorance of the wearer.


    I did do a search to see were there any "Anti-Lockdown" T-shirts that were actually funny and this was the best I could find

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    The celebration of ignorance on display was a sight to behold however



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