Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118271090#Comment_118271090

Everyone hopes he recovers, but he obviously didn't have a "clean bill of health". He's carrying a whole other person's worth of weight on his body, forcing his bones, his heart, his veins, his pancreas and pretty much every other organ he possesses to try and do what it's supposed to do under massive stress from carrying at least double what it evolved to carry.

What's actually pathetic is pretending to get offended on behalf of this morbidly fat man, instead of acknowledging that the media saying he has a "clean bill of health" is an outright lie.

To be on here pretending to be a pharmacist, then pretending that he isn't the EXACT type of fella you start seeing regularly at your counter 15-20 years earlier than normal weight people his age - that's what's sad.

And pretending to be all upset that someone noticed an extremely fat person is extremely fat is what's pathetic. Taking shots at someone else on here because they dared to say "that bloke is not young and healthy". Did you imagine anyone would join you in your faux outrage?

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118271264#Comment_118271264

He's the size of two people what is wrong with you.

Look, more power to him if he values chips and Fanta over lettuce and squats. It's entirely up to him how he lives his life and I don't think anyone has any sort of moral imperative to be at a particular weight or level of health. But come ON. That guy's BMI is at least 40, and it's not because he's been deadlifting with The Rock. He's not "healthy", particularly not when we're talking Covid which is known to hit obese people harder.

M_Murphy57

Posting this here for anyone travelling shortly:

From the examiner:

"Any passengers who arrive into Ireland without a negative result will need to home quarantine and take a PCR test within 36 hours of arrival."

5,156 new cases as Covid testing rules for arrivals into Ireland come into place

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40759482.html

Anyone travelling into Ireland via a plane or a ferry is now required to show proof of a negative Covid test

it's also on gov.ie ... home quarantine for people arriving without the test

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/88b68-minister-for-health-announces-changes-to-international-travel-requirements/

It appears to mean you can still travel without the test and then just "home quarantine" (being checked by no one presumably)

I'm travelling to Poland next week with my teenage son and I know a lot of people seem to think there's essentially a travel ban. Doesn't look like you will be denied boarding even with no test?

facehugger99

The unvaccinated, foreigners - hell, even primary school children, - apparently it's perfectly ok to target these groups with extra restrictions, to scapegoat them, to fear-monger and segregate them.

But whatever you do, don't point out that the obese are at extra risk from Covid.

I wonder if having a chief medical officer who looks like he hasn't seen the inside of a gym in a few decades is just coincidental?

HalfAndHalf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118272664#Comment_118272664

Lovely! So I moved my hotel booking and flights for my December work visit to the London office at a decent enough cost based on Tuesdays news, that changed on Thursday and now changed again!!

Piss up and brewery 🤬

M_Murphy57

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118272778#Comment_118272778

The examiner is the only paper reporting this. The usual govt shills of RTE etc have conveniently left that part out.

I wonder were the govt prevented by the EU from saying that, essentially, they wouldn't recognise the EU cert for travel?

Obviously with Donnelly involved they could announce tomorrow that all travellers from everywhere have to go into mhq on arrival, but tonight gov.ie lists "no test and home quarantine" as an option.

HalfAndHalf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118272796#Comment_118272796

Spoofers the lot of them!

And now ye’ve Luke O’Neill saying Omicron is nothing more than a common cold virus!

So more industries closed, PUP open again, for what’s turning out to likely be the sniffles!

niallo27

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118271681#Comment_118271681

I think covid is the least of their worries in fairness.

votecounts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118272664#Comment_118272664

are you going to get the test yourself on the way back or will you risk not being allowed board. Curious

HalfAndHalf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118272948#Comment_118272948

Where’s the risk? The government are now saying (very quietly) that you can not get tested and isolate at home for 3 days if you PCR test and 10 days if not.

BuildTheWall

Do they force you to get a PCR when you return? I’ll unashamedly admit that during the height of Covid last year I returned home from the UK and didn’t quarantine, it’s a completely unreasonable expectation of someone who has to travel between the UK and Ireland on a frequent basis and can’t be arsing around doing nothing for 2 weeks either side of each trip.

FoFo1254122

the gov regs are very confusing

hard to know when and who has to quarantine and how Pcr tests be used

also the four household that’s can visIt, does that increase with bubbles

in schools, exactly who has to wear a mask- is it 9 and above or 3rd class upwards, also what is the legal implications of people taking their children out of school over this. Should children who have trouble breeding be made have a panic attack in front of principles to prove exemptions status

also can pub owners who have zero staff not follow the restrictions?

regard gyms, you now need proof of covid cert to enter, but I have my wives and as we are in a bubble can I use hers?

I find it hard to follow these rules

not sure what is going on as the rules are nor very clear

HalfAndHalf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273006#Comment_118273006

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273043#Comment_118273043

The new info link has been posted previously by @M_Murphy57

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/88b68-minister-for-health-announces-changes-to-international-travel-requirements/

Floppybits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118272835#Comment_118272835

If the government has introduced these new restrictions for a variant that is nothing more than the sniffles then they may as well all resign. Ridiculous to have jumped the gun like this nothing but pure blind panic by the government. Businesses will savage them and I wouldn't blame them.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273145#Comment_118273145

NPHET = National Panicking Hysterical Eejit Team.

CalamariFritti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273043#Comment_118273043

Its probably because the rules are racist too? 😁

HalfAndHalf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273145#Comment_118273145

The more information coming out about it would suggest they have.

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273145#Comment_118273145

One thing is for sure, they won't rescind the restrictions as quick as they introduced them.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118272619#Comment_118272619

I'm not upset. I just think it's pathetic to take a dig at somebody for being overweight on an anonymous forum.

If people are fat shaming, surely unvaccinated shaming is par for the course too.

Sure, I'm a "pretend pharmacist". I'll have to tell the pharmacy I locummed in today that I'm "pretend". Wonder if I'll have to give back the 1200 euro too....

Shame I have to pay most of it on tax.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273569#Comment_118273569

Definitely not. Once the restrictions are in you can strap yourself in for dealing with them until next June at the earliest.

At that point you'll most likely see it return to panic stations by November next year with the previous restrictions returning with a few additions.

It would wash better with people if NPHET and by extension the government just stated that they're essentially playing a game of pin the tail on the donkey and they have no vision of what they actually need to do, instead of saying their measures are working when the dogs in the street can see they're not.

brickster69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273607#Comment_118273607

True, may as well write Easter off already. Probably announce in July they are working on a plan for freedom day which will take 4 weeks to be announced. Then in mid July announce dates for mid October again.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273687#Comment_118273687

Meh. I'm not going to complain. Severe shortage of pharmacists in Ireland at the moment. Weekend rates are 100-130 at the moment. I work in hospital as my main job but do locum work to pay for holidays/ Christmas presents etc.

To clarify, I'm happy to pay this rate of tax and probably should be taxed more.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273594#Comment_118273594

They weren't "taking a dig at somebody for being overweight". They were pointing out that the guy was overweight, as opposed to having a "clean bill of health" as stated in the media.

That's not "fat shaming". It's fact-stating. Fat shaming would be saying that there is anything wrong with him being overweight. That's not the case. Being overweight is just a side-effect of the way he chooses to live his life, and more power to him if that's what he wants. But vastly increased risk of multiple conditions, including severe or fatal Covid-19, is a side-effect as well. The media pretending its not, leading people to believe that healthy 35-year-olds (that is, healthy weight individuals with no known health conditions) are likely to be struck down by Covid because one guy who's double the weight his body is evolved to deal with is having a bad time, is nonsense.

Here are shaming statements: "He's obviously way too fat, should've stopped stuffing his mouth in front of Netflix and gone for a jog every now and then. Serves him right." - "She's obviously an idiot. Should have got vaccinated instead of listening to Facebookpedia antivaxx bullshit. Serves her right."

Non-shaming: "I hope he gets better, but he's not "healthy" like the article says. He's very overweight, which is known to cause severe Covid." - "I hope she gets better, but if she'd been vaccinated there's a good chance she wouldn't be in such dire straits".

Equating even noticing that someone is fat with "fat-shaming" is absolute wokefuckery of the highest order and helping nobody.

Congrats on your bit of cash. I haven't sold my labour for a very long time, but my understanding is that 1200 euro for a day's work is a decent amount.

bucketybuck

Shame the unvaccinated to protect the hospitals, they are at breaking point and our front line heroes need help!

...says the hospital worker doing nixers at the weekend for a bag of cash.

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274066#Comment_118274066

Yeah maybe such hospital workers should restrict their social movements outside of the hospital. They of all people need to protect the health service.

Real Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118272619#Comment_118272619

Thank you Sir, well said 👍️

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274066#Comment_118274066

Is dispensing medication for people with prescriptions not an essential service?

Of course, you are right, the patient's family who came into collect emergency supply of palliative meds. We should just close pharmacies are it suits your narrative? Also, community pharmacy is also considered front line. But maybe your mindset is so myopic, you may not realise that.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274160#Comment_118274160

Is working in a community pharmacy a social activity? Another myopic viewpoint! Sad really.

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274224#Comment_118274224

It's an activity wholly unconnected to your work in the hospital! And if like any other locum work, with quite frequently changing colleagues and locations... not exactly keeping your circle of social contacts to a minimum. In fact you're quite the traveling salesman.

Maybe you should knock it on the head for the sake of the health service.. you wouldn't want to be responsible for bringing it in with you now. Especially given how concerned you are the entire time.

Myopic!? Ha!

road_high

Is this testing nonsensical racket for inbound travel likely to stay in for the foreseeable? Was thinking of getting away in the next few months but don’t fancy forking out €100s for pointless meaningless tests