Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049325#Comment_118049325

OMG, as bad as the HSE are, I doubt that's the reason 😏

Micky 32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049278#Comment_118049278

Vaccine waning does happen as it does with all vaccines. The initial antibodies wear off. If they didn’t your blood would become like a thick soup. Studies suggest that because of the antibody waning you are more likely to get an infection but it seems that for severe infection protection is still strong .

Mic 1972

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117959895#Comment_117959895

Eligible people are anyone above the age of 12, Ireland is not 90% vaccinated

MOR316

There's a lot of people in this thread, from over the last year, who serious apologies to certain posters

Unfortunately I can't seem to see the culprits anywhere...

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049184#Comment_118049184

We've had some of the harshest and longest lockdowns in Europe, if not the world. Vitamin D rates are probably through the floor because of people staying indoors (they were probably already pretty bad anyway), gyms are closed so the level of exercise people are doing is down by a lot, people have not been socialising as much, which causes mental strain and increased cortisol levels, takeaway businesses have been thriving more than would be seen to be mere compensation for restaurants being closed (4 in 10 polled people said they increased their junk food intake since the beginning of the pandemic). Basically, a whole lot of people are a whole lot unhealthier, in a pandemic that is much worse for those in poor health.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049298#Comment_118049298

I've as much respect for Philip as Philip has for Aldi/Lidl.. Catherin Martin has confidence in sorting it, didn't Catherine come out red faced and empty handed last time. Good oul Catherine, tell me less about the Debt to GDP ratio and more about those splendid windmills you're chirping on about eh!

https://mobile.twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1428258091909451776?lang=ar-x-fm

Don't Chute!

Lads this Nphet crowd are out of fcuking control at this point. Grand Supreme Emperor Holohan telling us today to not focus on the things that are not open but to focus on the greater good. Who do these people think they are!? Remember of course when it was announced that they would be disbanded? And I and others on here laughed and said it wouldn’t happen? And others here scoffed and called us conspiracy theorists yet again? Remember that? Well here we fcuking are. When are people in this country going to wake up and realize they are being played for fools by a bunch of unelected spineless cretins?

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049323#Comment_118049323

Oh, no need to. I only posted a fact. Feel free to discuss the other points I made in the same post at your leisure.

hotmail.com

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049248#Comment_118049248

Same chap who campaigned hard on us not to travel.

SupplyandDemandZone

They haven't got a scoobie doo what's going on really do they.

JRant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049314#Comment_118049314

I wasn't checked at Dublin airport, same as I wasn't checked at Frankfurt airport. The airline took my cert details and they have them on file. That's fine by me being honest and having a double check is just pointless bureaucracy.

every A&E in this country will be overwhelmed as long as folks believ that the sniffles is the 1st phase of a deadly plauge..It;s mass hysteria.

It's like telling everyone at home that there's fleas in their sofa.....many will start to get itchy.....FFS. stop getting tests for sniffles and live your lives or at least the ones you had before this. How the hell are clubs supposed to get "sit back down" security.

I hear Michael Martin now using phrases like "it's not me it's Covid" oh holy jasus, imagine that for a highlight reel on reeling in the years..the absolute shame, you can see he's way beyond trying to stay afloat. It's like before his 22nd speech..he's getting jabbed from all angles and cannot admit to his ineptitude.

hotmail.com

No one asked if Tony regrets travelling abroad?

Billgirlylegs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118048770#Comment_118048770

for the slow learners.

If you dislike the smoker analogy, then there are plenty of others.

Guy not wearing safety gear will be denied access to a construction site - because those not wearing safety gear have been proven to be the cause of suffering or injury

A person who is not wearing appropriate clothing will not be permitted into food preparation areas - because those not wearing appropriate clothing have been proven to be at greater risk of spoiling food

A person who has not been appropriately inducted in safety procedures will not be permitted on board many types of boat - because those not inducted in safety procedures hsve been proven to suffer/cause injury.

A person who has not been vaccinated against a variety of diseases will be denied access to a number of countries- "travel" abroad is conditional on many things but as far as I know is not obligatory. Therefore this example is not similar in principle to your previous examples, which are activities that are "everyday".

There is nothing new about denying people access to things on the basis of what they don't have or don't do. Preventing access to shops and more pertinently, medical treatment is being openly advocated on the thread

To liken it to the systematic suppression and dehumanisation of people on the basis of the colour of their skin, goes to show how deep the narcissism and victim complex goes for some people. Narcissism indeed.

Apartheid does not only apply to racist conditions, it is a term relating to separating people and treating them differently - a definition of apartheid refers to a political system where people are clearly divided based on race, gender, class or other such factors.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049360#Comment_118049360

I hear you 😏

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049381#Comment_118049381

In fairness that was almost a year ago, he travelled last Friday

Micky 32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049409#Comment_118049409

Why should he regret it? Travel is now legal. I’m off to the states next month, should i regret it,?

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049409#Comment_118049409

Are we supposed to regret travelling now?

Deeper Blue

Seriously what was the point of that briefing? We already know the amount of cases and ICU admissions since they're on the national airwaves every second minute.

Honestly I think these NPHET briefings will make people less likely to follow guidelines at this point. People are fed up of hearing the same rubbish.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049369#Comment_118049369

I too posted facts as I saw them albeit always open to correction. Honestly, I've learned nothing really from that 2 hour briefing, very disappointing

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049427#Comment_118049427

Seems to have good viewing figures going by here!

Deeper Blue

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049441#Comment_118049441

Doesn't make it any less pointless

werenotthere

So sick of all the stuff being spouted here!

It isnt vaccinated vs unvaccinated. Its keeping the hospitals under control so we can have a functioning society.

The vaccines arent 100%, we all know that, but they are helping. Vaccinated people are allowed to do more things that have more risk of infection eg. nightclubs, as they dont pose as much of a risk to clog up the hospitals if they become infected.

I want to enjoy the pub, gym, restaurants etc and dont want them closed down because icu is full.

It isnt case numbers, outbreaks or positivity rates anymore its about protecting a health system that is sh* and cant cope in a normal winter.

This is the only chance to have a bit of normality for winter, albeit its probably not gonna happen anyway.

Its not perfect for anyone but if we opened up this weekend fully we would be back in lockdown by xmas and then everyone would be moaning.

These are the rules that are best for all of our society (with a terrible health system) its not great but the short sighted approach spouted here would be much worse!

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049423#Comment_118049423

As long as its not for a wedding in Las Vegas, No 🤣 enjoy

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049446#Comment_118049446

No but people need to stop watching this stuff if they are fed up with it. Life is too short, imo. Maybe people get some kick out of it and watching the likes of Claire Byrne live.

JRant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049383#Comment_118049383

They aren't even sure if you can stand, sit or dance at a nightclub. Said nightclub may also be a pub but will be "ring fenced" to provide 'clarity'.

landofthetree

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049184#Comment_118049184

I dont understand how people can say masks work.

Put on a mask on a cold morning and you can see your breath. They can't be stopping much.

landofthetree

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049449#Comment_118049449

I could live with all that if Tony and his friends in Nphet admitted that our health service is sh1t and him,the rest of Nphet and our government are to blame for it,

hotmail.com

The dramatic principal in Wexford back on the news.

They ended close contacts policy in schools as it meant thousands of children missing even more school time, doing damage to their education.

The medial advisors are to blame for not explaining this better and also hyping up the consequences of the spread of the virus.

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049423#Comment_118049423

The curtain twitchers are keeping an eye on Tony ha