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First olympic transgender athlete to compete at Tokyo 2020 **MOD NOTE IN OP**

  • 21-06-2021 7:17pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭ Markus Antonius


    Laurel Hubbard, the first olympic transgender athlete will represent New Zealand in weightlifting.




    Good to see we're taking baby steps...



    Mod Note - Please stick to the topic of the thread, this is not a replacement for the Gender Identity thread which is still under mod review.

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    From the inception of Boards the founders, initial users, Admins and staff have been fully subscribed to the idea of inclusivity and they/we still are. This is where the very basic 'don't be a dick' rule came in and the mod direction that started this thread was intended as an implementation of that.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,626 ✭✭✭ MrMusician18


    Here we go 🍿


  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭ nj27


    If you are all set to belay I will be glad. I am going up Denali shortly.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 9,537 Mod ✭✭✭✭ humberklog


    Nuts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,753 ✭✭✭ touts


    First Gold Medal of the Olympics to New Zealand so...


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,092 ✭✭✭✭ dxhound2005




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  • Registered Users Posts: 19 Donny Patterson


    Your youtube channel is gonna get loads of views.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,516 ✭✭✭✭ whisky_galore


    Thread close in 3, 2, 1...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭ Bobblehats


    That’s the most comfortable looking fence ever!


  • Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭ wpd


    delighted for Laurel and to New Zealand on their probable gold

    expect to see lots more of this in years to come especially as most countries fund
    olympic qualified athletes


  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭ Vestiapx


    Yer wan Jenner was an Olympic athlete iirc?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭ Markus Antonius



    I'll happily have it moved to current affairs rather than closed like that thread


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,090 ✭✭✭ Feisar


    How can someone stand on a podium and accept a medal like this? It’s not a victory, it’s a joke.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭ beerguts


    I actually hope the person wins. Just to see the ultra woke try to square how they support a transgender person breaking down barriers while at the same time bemoaning the patriarchy for preventing a biological woman from winning a gold medal.

    Should be good **** and giggles


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,090 ✭✭✭ Feisar


    beerguts wrote: »
    I actually hope the person wins. Just to see the ultra woke try to square how they support a transgender person breaking down barriers while at the same time bemoaning the patriarchy for preventing a biological woman from winning a gold medal.

    Should be good **** and giggles

    It’s gold they’ll be winning alright, from the mental gymnastics

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭ Markus Antonius


    Just goes to show though that even in the world of 'equality', gender quotas and 'positive discrimination' - men will still win in the end.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anyone who deems themselves feminist wouldn't throw under the bus those women who don't think this is fair. But plenty of those self appointed "feminists" do just that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,540 ✭✭✭ AllGunsBlazing


    pfft ..The former Eastern bloc countries were blazing this trail decades ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,466 ✭✭✭ YFlyer


    Vestiapx wrote: »
    Yer wan Jenner was an Olympic athlete iirc?

    As a man.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,090 ✭✭✭ Feisar


    Lurleen wrote: »
    Anyone who deems themselves feminist wouldn't throw under the bus those women who don't think this is fair. But plenty of those self appointed "feminists" do just that.

    It’s funny, performance enhancing drugs are banned but this athlete gets all the benefits of puberty, strength/bone density/better recovery etc etc and that for some reason is a level playing field? And there’s no point in arguing that she doesn’t have the testosterone levels now, them benefits don’t disappear. To use the performance enhancing drugs analogy again, one can use them, train like a lunatic, come off, test clean and keep 90% of the benefits.
    Why the need to be so woke? Can’t sport just say, “yes you are female now but we’re born male and got the advantage of puberty so it’s the male pool for you”.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,894 ✭✭✭ emo72


    Would it not be fairest to compete in transgender only competition?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭ Markus Antonius


    Feisar wrote: »
    It’s funny, performance enhancing drugs are banned but this athlete gets all the benefits of puberty, strength/bone density/better recovery etc etc and that for some reason is a level playing field? And there’s no point in arguing that she doesn’t have the testosterone levels now, them benefits don’t disappear. To use the performance enhancing drugs analogy again, one can use them, train like a lunatic, come off, test clean and keep 90% of the benefits.
    Why the need to be so woke? Can’t sport just say, “yes you are female now but we’re born male and got the advantage of puberty so it’s the male pool for you”.

    Testosterone and peneses and all that are not gender specific anymore is why


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭ alan partridge aha


    Joke Joke Joke Joke Joke


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭ Bobblehats


    Not fanny.


  • Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭ Stihl waters


    He could do with shaving his armpits if hes going to be acting like a woman


  • Registered Users Posts: 963 ✭✭✭ 85603


    Oh well..

    Olympics


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,805 ✭✭✭✭ Larbre34


    The best suggestion I saw all day was for a transgender games.

    I'm not going to rant because it's of little value, but there's simply no circumstances where entering a person born with male physiology in a competition for people of female physiology can be fair or equitable or in compliance with the Olympic ideal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭ brainboru1104


    What happens when a male to female boxer who transitioned at age 28 fights a cis gender woman?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭ Hercule Poirot


    If this was something like archery, where the discipline is more weighted towards skill then I don't think anyone would have an issue with it.

    But weightlifting? Seriously?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,894 ✭✭✭ emo72


    What happens when a male to female boxer who transitioned at age 28 fights a cis gender woman?

    We all know what will happen. But it's easier to put your head in the sand than speak out against it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,092 ✭✭✭✭ dxhound2005


    The gold medal is far from guaranteed for New Zealand.



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