The Tipperary GAA Discussion Thread

evolvingtipperary101

Tipp got 4,000 tickets. Clubs are sending tickets back. Sign of the transition? But I've always said that Tipp have the most fair weather supporters. Won't show up to support - they only want to see a win.

Missing out on the chance of seeing Aussie G and Stephen B in their prime too. Hard to understand.

nklc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118920751#Comment_118920751

If Aussie and Bennett are let hit top form , I’d rather be sitting at home too . Looking forward to see if Tipp have given up on trying the short game , I hope so . Can’t beat a bit of goal mouth action

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118920822#Comment_118920822

Yeh exactly. It's likely a case of knowing we'll probably get slapped around, which isn't pleasant.

Mantis Toboggan

We could be in for a right hiding in fairness going off form.

Look ill be happy regardless of result as long as we put in a good performance and the younger lads show a bit of promise.

nklc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118920886#Comment_118920886

Don’t think we’ll get slapped around by Waterford ,

shmeee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118920751#Comment_118920751

Clubs got standing / terrace tickets. People simply don't want to stand on a glorified bank below in a dive of a stadium. Most clubs in Tipp got 50 terrace tickets and wasn't much issue with supply if any club members wanted a few. And also, there is little or no buzz around Tipp, expectations are low and Tipp could easily be knocked out of the championship in a few weeks time.

evolvingtipperary101

But if you love the game of hurling, you'll just want to see hurling. And if you support Tipp you'll want to see Tipp play. Otherwise, fair weather supporter. And that's no support at all. If you're basing support on potential results that's just bad form as a supporter.

evolvingtipperary101

Great day for a game - big day for Brendan Cummins and co - really up against it here:

GAA Beo | Tiobraid Árann v Port Láirge (Tipperary v Waterford U20 ) - YouTube

KanyeSouthEast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118919002#Comment_118919002

Clare have a great manager? Must have missed this! Who is her and what’s he won with them?

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118921820#Comment_118921820

Haven’t seen anything that would convince me otherwise tbh

Waterford so impressive. We really had a dour league

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118918534#Comment_118918534

Getting better..

Ompala

Enjoyable game. Nice seeing a Tipp team playing a more modern style underage. We've been lacking it a bit in Under 20 since Cahill left. Only real downside was a lot of poor wides, but 2 good teams playing out there tonight.

evolvingtipperary101

Great win for much derided group of minors that are more competitive in the under 20 grade so far. Really showed up in terms of winning possession and hunting in packs. Hit a lot of wides. A lot. Should have won by more but now is not the time of year to be hitting top form. Some real improvement in some of those players.

tooka

i have seen a lot of the minors the last 3 years and the 2019 minors were shockingly bad, 20 and 21 were average

fair play to Cummins for that tonight

evolvingtipperary101

McGarry looks like a very intelligent player. Specializes in game management. Pops up everywhere.

evolvingtipperary101

Derek McGrath is skipping Walsh Park and heading straight to the the Gaelic Grounds:

"A potential sextet of forwards from Mikey Breen, Noel McGrath, Jake Morris, John McGrath, Mark Kehoe, Jason Forde and Bonner Maher could hurt any opposition. But doubts persist over that sextet's ability to make the kind of wall in front of Ronan Maher that Waterford will erect in front of Tadgh. 

Tipperary will have to be innovative to have any chance and even so Waterford have the flexibility, the diligence, a returning Austin Gleeson, and crucially the bench to win with a bit to spare.

Waterford head into Walsh Park bloodthirsty and ready to kill. Tipperary, in contrast, are in survival mode. The excitement around the Waterford team may have hindered previous teams but not these lads. Their steadiness and brilliance sets them apart."

puzl

Don't mistake pundits waxing lyrical about Waterford as any reflection on the general mood of the fans, and more importantly, of the panel.

All this talk about form is nonsense.. that was the league, this is what matters and we in Waterford are very very nervous about Sunday, and rightly so.

A Tipp team licking its wounds is a very very dangerous beast, and Waterford aren't used to being favourites.

Memories of Cork hammering Tipp in 2010 and everyone writing Liam and his team off spring to mind....

Fred Astaire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118928734#Comment_118928734

We are in the worst position we have been in for almost two decades, with a manager who should be nowhere within a million miles of the position, a bunch of retirees and an injury to our aging star forward. The youngsters integrated in the league ranged from completely unimpressive to just 'ok' and we were soundly beaten by the same team at the same venue just a few weeks ago.

We are the worst team in Munster and it will be an absolute miracle if we get out of it - the only real chance of doing so coming from winning our two home games.

I'm going down on Sunday fully expecting a complete hammering. The chickens are coming home to roost for this County Board and the monumental mess that they have created. If by some absolute miracle we win on Sunday I'll be thrilled but there's no point getting offended that outside observers have rightly pegged us as the worst team in Munster, when we are.

Fred Astaire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118930183#Comment_118930183

The League and Championship have never been so close - the League is a far more accurate reflection of where teams are at than it has ever been. There was virtually no time between the end of the League and the start of the Championship to work on anything new.

Even after the Cork hammering in 2010 I'm fairly sure most people thought we would still have a big say in the Championship - the bookies still had us as second favourites as far as I remember. I cannot in my lifetime ever remember us being 18/1 to win an All Ireland before any hurling was played. That is a fair and accurate assessment of where we are.

If Waterford are nervous about Sunday then they have absolutely no business being anywhere near the All Ireland final this year. Over the past 10-15 years I was never once nervous about playing Waterford, a good team beats teams they are better than and isn't nervous about playing them. Do you think when Kilkenny were winning 4 in a row that they were afraid of Wexford? If you want to be the best then that is the mentality.

puzl

Yes, but you also can't expect to be the best team without having the proper level of caution about your opposition. Limerick fell asleep at the wheel in the 2019 semi final and great champions must never do this, no matter what the bookies say. You go out and treat each opponent as if they will be your undoing. That absolutely killer instinct Kilkenny had comes from this. 10 points up? So what, keep on punishing, keep in scoring and never ever ever get cocky.

89tipp91

This may well be the case, time will tell.

What do you mean by the monumental mess the county board created?

89tipp91

That was a reply to Fred Astaire!

Tipp 77

Very interesting to see the team announcement tonight. Probably two championship debutants in the full back line. Will it be Byrne or Quirke at wing back if Heffernan plays at midfield and if he does who plays with him. I'm going down Sunday more in hope than expectation but Morris Kehoe and Bowe could have big games and we still have great scoring potential

evolvingtipperary101

No Dan McCormack - his form has been poor - but that's a shock.

evolvingtipperary101

Tipperary Senior Hurling team v Waterford

Brian Hogan

Cathal Barrett

James Quigley

Craig Morgan

Dillon Quirke

Ronan Maher

Seamus Kennedy

Alan Flynn

Barry Heffernan

Conor Bowe

Noel McGrath

Michael Breen

Jason Forde

Mark Kehoe

Jake Morris

Mantis Toboggan

No Dan no John McGrath, no Bonner when you add that in with Bubbles & Seamie missing that's quite a change in attack.

evolvingtipperary101

Aussie Gleeson on the bench - I mightn't get to see him play and all the effort of going down

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118932564#Comment_118932564

John on the bench.

Mantis Toboggan

No Ozzie, wonder if there's trouble in the camp.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118932657#Comment_118932657

Quad injury. Strange to see him on the bench - if he comes on and tears it further, could be his championship.

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118933064#Comment_118933064

Doubt he's actually injured, no way he'd be injured and on the bench, think there may be a bit more in it, you don't want to cross Cahill.

Mantis Toboggan

Some bench from Waterford, Limerick probably the only team that could stop them this year so makes sense to keep a few in reserve.

jimmythesulk

Tipp to win tomorrow. They are waiting in the long grass and are loving being written off.

farmerval

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118934572#Comment_118934572

Don't know what kind of grass you think we have in Tipp😁😁

The league has been disappointing, Ger Browne, Paddy Cadell, Robert Byrne and Brian McGrath all failed to grasp the opportunities they had. Dan McCormack and John McGrath not going well enough to start.

Add in Bubbles, Seamie, Willie Connors, Niall O Meara and Bryan O Mara all unavailable, it makes us look light.

On a side note Alan Flynn must be outstanding in training, I've never seen his value in matches.

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118934572#Comment_118934572

Not sure what in Jaysis’ name leads you to this conclusion

jimmythesulk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118935155#Comment_118935155

Cause Colm Bonnar is the master of mind games. With all of his WIT Fitzgibbon wins they were going terrible in the early part of the year only to turn it around when it mattered and peak for the semi final and finals. He knows what he is doing. The league meant nothing to him.

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118935904#Comment_118935904

League meaning nothing to him or not, the squad isn’t near good enough to compete

Mantis Toboggan

When I go through the Waterford team I'm like what's the big deal they're average enough then I remember Liam Cahill is the manager and it makes sense.

Fred Astaire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118935904#Comment_118935904

Colm Bonnar was sniffing around this job 20 years ago and shouldn't have been within an asses roar of it in 2021/2022. He is yesterdays man and completely the wrong choice to undertake a huge rebuild. When you compare him to say a Cahill who has fresh ideas, it's apples and oranges.

The Fitzgibbon Cup may as well be Junior C in comparison to the Munster Championship. Not relevant whatsoever. Bonnar has no experience managing an elite hurling team at this level, despite having been around the game a very long time. He did very poorly with a mid tier county in Wexford and had a bottom tier county punching above their weight every so often.

And even if he manages to prove me wrong on the above (and I hope he does, I'll be there tomorrow hoping he makes me come back here and eat my words) - the panel is just not strong. The young players who should have 1-2 years championship experience are only getting integrated now, on the back of a very poor league where none of them impressed.

The best this team can hope for is to edge a Clare team who we are probably worse than at home, and then have qualification on the line at home v a Cork side with no bottle.

Mantis Toboggan

@Fred Astaire who would you have given the job to?

Tipp 77

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Tipp 77

Tipp 77

Fred Astaire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118936773#Comment_118936773

I would have swallowed my ego and gone outside the County, because the situation was and is absolutely desperate in a way it has rarely been before.

Better that than write off up to 3 years with a poor manager who shouldn't be in the job, just because he is from Tipp. I care about winning more than I care about appeasing a few purists who would be happier to p*ss away these 3 years just to have a Tipp man in charge.

Kylie06

I know it’s said every year

‘don’t mind the league…’

but I thought we were in for a right hiding today. Well happy with how we’ve gone so far, hopefully we can keep it up.

nklc

A decent performance from the lads , a couple of goals missed might have made a difference. Tommy dunne getting red card, that’s Johnny Murphy for ya . Alan Flynn just not good enough for midfield

Ompala

A lot to take from that. A lot closer than I thought we would be in the finish. Dan McCormack made a big difference when he came on. Flynn tries his hardest but he is not a midfielder.

Tipp 77

The effort was there but some of those wides were inexcusable. We were very close to getting something from that game . 1 to 7 should be the same against Clare big work needed from 8 up

Tipp 77

callaway92

Not bad but that squad depth that Waterford have is killer. With their big guns all starting they’d be 10+ point winners