The social housing list in Dublin

ThunbergsAreGo

clytemnestra wrote: »

Yep. This guy with the outrageous backstory is sitting pretty forever I'm sure.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/social-tenants-in-rathgar-complex-excluded-from-certain-facilities-1.4415042?mode=amp

So much entitlement in one piece...

ThunbergsAreGo

EddieN75 wrote: »

That guy was working in Canada up to 2016. How did he manage to end up in Ireland, skip the social housing queue and end up in a luxury apartment worth €700,000 to €950,000.

I would love that question to be answered....

Jinglejangle69

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

So much entitlement in one piece...

And in this country.

It's astonishing.

tommybrees

Just want to add my opinion on this whole thing.
Working on a site and have just finished building 50 plus state of the art apartments in dun laoghaire.
All sold to social housing.
People have started to move in recently.
They are arriving in fairly modern cars, trucks arriving with brand new furniture etc.
Mix of young and old with kids Boyfriends etc.

It's soul destroying when you see your paycheck at the end of the week to see where our taxes are going. Especially when trying to buy a home yourself and just cannot get a foot on the ladder.

Maybe everybody working in this country should just quit there jobs and join them then government will take notice of wtf is going on.

corner of hells

EddieN75 wrote: »

That guy was working in Canada up to 2016. How did he manage to end up in Ireland, skip the social housing queue and end up in a luxury apartment worth €700,000 to €950,000.

How do you know he was in Canada ?

Galwayguy35

clytemnestra wrote: »

Yep. This guy with the outrageous backstory is sitting pretty forever I'm sure.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/social-tenants-in-rathgar-complex-excluded-from-certain-facilities-1.4415042?mode=amp

Says in the article that it was in the agreement the gym wasn't part of the deal so its hardly the fault of anybody else if they didn't bother to read it.

But of course Mannix Flynn won't mention that, instead he comes out with crap like "social apartheid".

oceanman

tommybrees wrote: »

Just want to add my opinion on this whole thing.
Working on a site and have just finished building 50 plus state of the art apartments in dun laoghaire.
All sold to social housing.
People have started to move in recently.
They are arriving in fairly modern cars, trucks arriving with brand new furniture etc.
Mix of young and old with kids Boyfriends etc.

It's soul destroying when you see your paycheck at the end of the week to see where our taxes are going. Especially when trying to buy a home yourself and just cannot get a foot on the ladder.

Maybe everybody working in this country should just quit there jobs and join them then government will take notice of wtf is going on.

how do you know many of those people dont have jobs? people in low paid jobs qualify for social housing too.

clytemnestra

corner of hells wrote: »

How do you know he was in Canada ?

It was on his Twitter account, which he deleted after people drew attention to it. He was living and working in Canada and moaning about how racist they were. He's obviously got a neck like a jockey's proverbial but the story just faded away with no real answers.

purifol0

Sorry if its been mentioned before, but the Social Housing list is secret! Tax payers get no say in who gets a free gaff, but also they don't get to know who is going to get them either.

You would have to be incredibly innocent to think that councils round the land have been doling them out impartially.

clytemnestra

purifol0 wrote: »

Sorry if its been mentioned before, but the Social Housing list is secret! Tax payers get no say in who gets a free gaff, but also they don't get to know who is going to get them either.

You would have to be incredibly innocent to think that councils round the land have been doling them out impartially.

They used to be transparent. Up til at least the early 90s local newspapers would publish full lists of housing allocations, swaps and people taking over tenancies from deceased parents. I'm sure there was some behind the scenes string pulling sometimes - TDs getting involved and so on - but the actual end result was there for everyone to see.

Can you imagine if that happened now? Many new built social housing development in some areas are minority Irish. Even the stats on nationalities on the list doesn't tell the true story because so many have been granted Irish citizenship in the last 20 years.

Jinglejangle69

tommybrees wrote: »

Just want to add my opinion on this whole thing.
Working on a site and have just finished building 50 plus state of the art apartments in dun laoghaire.
All sold to social housing.
People have started to move in recently.
They are arriving in fairly modern cars, trucks arriving with brand new furniture etc.
Mix of young and old with kids Boyfriends etc.

It's soul destroying when you see your paycheck at the end of the week to see where our taxes are going. Especially when trying to buy a home yourself and just cannot get a foot on the ladder.

Maybe everybody working in this country should just quit there jobs and join them then government will take notice of wtf is going on.

It's a farce.

And it is showing no signs of stopping.

Madness.

Jinglejangle69

oceanman wrote: »

how do you know many of those people dont have jobs? people in low paid jobs qualify for social housing too.

Majority in social housing don't work.

Fann Linn

oceanman wrote: »

how do you know many of those people dont have jobs? people in low paid jobs qualify for social housing too.

Exactly. I think the cut off point for Dublin environs is approx €40k to qualify for social housing. Some people are so ignorant or biased that they believe those in social housung are all in the dole.

Jinglejangle69

Fann Linn wrote: »

Exactly. I think the cut off point for Dublin environs is approx €40k to qualify for social housing. Some people are so ignorant or biased that they believe those in social housung are all in the dole.

Not all no.

Just the majority.

Fann Linn

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Not all no.

Just the majority.

Any links that 50.1% are on the dole?Genuinely interested in those figures if you have them.

Hamachi

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Majority in social housing don't work.

Not saying I believe or disbelieve you, but have these stats ever been published?

If this is true, it’s an almighty kick in the teeth to the taxpayer.

Idbatterim

EddieN75 wrote: »

That guy was working in Canada up to 2016. How did he manage to end up in Ireland, skip the social housing queue and end up in a luxury apartment worth €700,000 to €950,000.

Probably had rte fight his battle

Jinglejangle69

Fann Linn wrote: »

Any links that 50.1% are on the dole?Genuinely interested in those figures if you have them.

https://rebuildingireland.ie/news/annual-summary-of-social-housing-assessments-is-published/#:~:text=Just%20over%20one-third%20of,support%20are%20unemployed%20(54.2%25)%3B

"The majority of those qualified for social housing support are unemployed (54.2%)"

Idbatterim

tommybrees wrote: »

Just want to add my opinion on this whole thing.
Working on a site and have just finished building 50 plus state of the art apartments in dun laoghaire.
All sold to social housing.
People have started to move in recently.
They are arriving in fairly modern cars, trucks arriving with brand new furniture etc.
Mix of young and old with kids Boyfriends etc.

It's soul destroying when you see your paycheck at the end of the week to see where our taxes are going. Especially when trying to buy a home yourself and just cannot get a foot on the ladder.

Maybe everybody working in this country should just quit there jobs and join them then government will take notice of wtf is going on.

Many of my mates saved for ages and have bought and are breaking their balls then doing them.up, as labour costs are insane, massive mortgages too. Then on the other hand, they are paying for free housing for all these wasters...

It's going to come to an almighty crunch on housing here eventually. The best bit is fg etc bending over backwards for those who dont vote, while alienating the young that used to vote for them and that have decades left to vote. Chickens are coming home to roost...

ThunbergsAreGo

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

It's a farce.

And it is showing no signs of stopping.

Madness.

And none of the media question it...

Fann Linn

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

https://rebuildingireland.ie/news/annual-summary-of-social-housing-assessments-is-published/#:~:text=Just%20over%20one-third%20of,support%20are%20unemployed%20(54.2%25)%3B

"The majority of those qualified for social housing support are unemployed (54.2%)"

Thanks for that. But the figures are still skewed. My mother in law would be included in that list. 66 years of age, in receipt of a pension and living in social housing after working for 40 years in shops and cleaning offices etc.

Hamachi

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

https://rebuildingireland.ie/news/annual-summary-of-social-housing-assessments-is-published/#:~:text=Just%20over%20one-third%20of,support%20are%20unemployed%20(54.2%25)%3B

"The majority of those qualified for social housing support are unemployed (54.2%)"

Thanks for posting that stat. Now that is infuriating.

Have no issue with hard working people on a low wage availing of social housing. Similarly, when somebody is physically or cognitively incapable of work, they should have all the resources they require at their disposal.

However, people who simply opt not to work should not have the option of living on the largesse of the Irish taxpayer. It really makes of mockery of trying to live your life the right way.

Jinglejangle69

Soon we'll have a right to housing.

Oh that will be fun for the taxpayer.

Hamachi

Fann Linn wrote: »

Thanks for that. But the figures are still skewed. My mother in law would be included in that list. 66 years of age, in receipt of a pension and living in social housing after working for 40 years in shops and cleaning offices etc.

They might be somewhat skewed, but given that those > 65 years old are only about 12-13% of the population, the cohort of people your mother in law belongs to, is relatively small.

French Toast

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Soon we'll have a right to housing.

Oh that will be fun for the taxpayer.

Couple it with an open door, no questions asked immigration policy and we'll be importing Europe's finest layabouts by the dozen.

corner of hells

clytemnestra wrote: »

It was on his Twitter account, which he deleted after people drew attention to it. He was living and working in Canada and moaning about how racist they were. He's obviously got a neck like a jockey's proverbial but the story just faded away with no real answers.

Odd alright , i work in homeless services , seems strange he even satisfied HRC.

Graces7

Fann Linn wrote: »

Exactly. I think the cut off point for Dublin environs is approx €40k to qualify for social housing. Some people are so ignorant or biased that they believe those in social housung are all in the dole.

And long term ill/disabled and pensioners are in social housing. It would be interesting to have actual figures to balance some of the posts here.

Fann Linn

Hamachi wrote: »

They might be somewhat skewed, but given that those > 65 years old are only about 12-13% of the population, the cohort of people your mother in law belongs to, is relatively small.

Would it not be better to look at the live register figures? There could be plenty of reasons why someone could be unemployed but there could be a more accurate figure of those on the live register if it were available imo.
I'm not really sure but I'd say that someone who has studied economics or stats could provide the proper way of measuring these figures.

Fann Linn

Graces7 wrote: »

And long term ill/disabled and pensioners are in social housing. It would be interesting to have actual figures.

That's what I was thinking Grace.

ThunbergsAreGo

Fann Linn wrote: »

That's what I was thinking Grace.

I agree, it would be really good if an exact breakdown was provided.

But regardless I think money could be better used then renting social housing in prime locations at crazy prices