US Police killing of 15 yo black girl Makiah Bryant MOD NOTE IN OP

MOD NOTE

It's a little hard to tell, but this OP is tongue in cheek / sarcastic. So please read it as such and discuss the topic at hand civilly.





Watch here - trigger warning: extremely racist police shooting:
https://twitter.com/SteveJaay/status/1384793609464057856?s=20

Racist police at it again in US, shooting dead a 15 year old BLACK girl.

News - https://www.google.com/amp/s/ktla.com/news/nationworld/reports-police-shoot-kill-teenage-girl-in-columbus/amp/

She was only trying to stab someone with a large knife. God the US police are so racist -
https://mobile.twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1384667861642358785

#JusticeForMakiyahBryant

Edit: Her Aunt speaking here -
https://mobile.twitter.com/colheartsu/status/1384671550851452934

She was only trying to stab someone. What is the US becoming when the police can't just mind their own business and stop being so racist.

Westernyelp

Are you saying this is ok?

Westernyelp

Westernyelp wrote: »

Are you saying this is ok?

No, like I said - 100% pure racism. No other explanation.

Did you smash it

I presume this is clear to all but hardened BLMers to be a case where lethal force was used legitimately.

Did you smash it

Did you smash it wrote: »

I presume this is clear to all but hardened BLMers to be a case where lethal force was used legitimately.

There's been protests already. Look up #JusticeForMakiyahBryant on twitter. #sayhername

She's black, therefore the cops are racist.

Cookie_Monster

Did you smash it wrote: »

I presume this is clear to all but hardened BLMers to be a case where lethal force was used legitimately.

was it really though, why not taser?

keano_afc

Racist cops. They should have let her go on stabbing people. How dare they do their job.

Cookie_Monster

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

was it really though, why not taser?

And if the taser fails and she successfully stabs someone to death?

No sorry, you're right, it's racist. I forgot she was black.

biko

Why didn't they just shoot the knife out of her hand?

Did you smash it

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

was it really though, why not taser?

Imminent threat to life. Lethal force is the correct response.

jam_mac_jam

Whatever happened here or however her death will be used politically now; it's absolutely tragic that a 15 year old is shot dead.

Did you smash it

Student_111 wrote: »

There's been protests already. Look up #JusticeForMakiyahBryant on twitter. #sayhername

She's black, therefore the cops are racist.

I know the hardened BLMers think like that but I think most people, black or otherwise would accept there’s a time and a place for lethal force and that was definitely one.

davetherave

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

was it really though, why not taser?

Taser can be ineffective.

It didn't stop this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6h_7dUKZL4 - Dramatic Video Show Chicago Police Fatally Shoot Man Who Stabbed Officer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7dD6MNZCQ0 - UK police taser man x2 with no effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avAH49NY_iY

In my view there was a clear and immediate threat to life, and the officer involved in shooting took the necessary action for the preservation of life.

Green Peter

Did you smash it wrote: »

Imminent threat to life. Lethal force is the correct response.

I guess that's another funeral Biden will have to go to this week. Fair play to him he's like a real irish politician

Did you smash it

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Whatever happened here or however her death will be used politically now; it's absolutely tragic that a 15 year old is shot dead.

Tragic but also tragically stupid. Call the cops then commence attacking folks on the footpath with a knife in your hand.

Peintre Celebre

Genuinely amazes me that there are people out protesting about this after seeing the video. Sad situation but necessary.

Be right back

I think her dad was the lovely individual who kicked the first girl in the head. Nice family. I wonder will the girl in pink come out and speak in favour of the policeman?

RebelButtMunch

Police officer saved a life there. She was swinging around that knife at head and neck height like she meant business.

MarkR

What we needed was a good black guy with a gun.

JP Liz V1

biko wrote: »

Why didn't they just shoot the knife out of her hand?

Yes shoot to injury why to kill as first option

Keyzer

Student_111 wrote: »

Racist police at it again in US, shooting dead a 15 year old BLACK girl - https://www.google.com/amp/s/ktla.com/news/nationworld/reports-police-shoot-kill-teenage-girl-in-columbus/amp/

She was only trying to stab someone with a large knife. God the US police are so racist -
https://mobile.twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1384667861642358785

#JusticeForMakiyahBryant

Edit: Her Aunt speaking here -
https://mobile.twitter.com/colheartsu/status/1384671550851452934

She was only trying to stab someone. What is the US becoming when the police can't just mind their own business and stop being so racist.

I honestly don't know if you're being sarcastic or serious.

Regardless, she was trying to stab another person which could have resulted in that persons death. Nothing racist here.

Same thing happened to the crazy Florida woman who stabbed a cop - see below. And she's white.

biko

The media take



https://www.thedailybeast.com/columbus-police-fatally-shoot-a-person-as-derek-chauvin-guilty-verdict-comes-down
Text now changed.

According to Bryant, who said she had been told of the events by Makiyah’s grandmother and father, Makiyah was in front of the house fending off a physical assault when police arrived. Police shot her four times without any warning, she said.

Hot take by local activist

Local Columbus activist K.C. Taynor of Exodus Nation told The Daily Beast the latest police killing made it impossible to celebrate the Chauvin verdict.
“It’s another murder,” he said. “They’re animals. They treat us like animals.”

Potential-Monke

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes shoot to injury why to kill as first option

Not sure if you're being serious, but if you are, they're not trained to shoot to kill. They're trained to shoot at the largest part of the body in order to incapacitate, just happens that sometimes death is the result of that incapacitation. Reason: If you don't incapacitate them, they could cause further harm to people/property around them.

Does anyone have a link to the video that's not behind a geo-wall?

Be right back

biko wrote: »

The media take



https://www.thedailybeast.com/columbus-police-fatally-shoot-a-person-as-derek-chauvin-guilty-verdict-comes-down
Text now changed.

That picture tells a whole different story.

Did you smash it

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Not sure if you're being serious, but if you are, they're not trained to shoot to kill. They're trained to shoot at the largest part of the body in order to incapacitate, just happens that sometimes death is the result of that incapacitation. Reason: If you don't incapacitate them, they could cause further harm to people/property around them.

Does anyone have a link to the video that's not behind a geo-wall?

https://t.co/uON9H4DyRH Hope that’s not geo’d

Potential-Monke

Sound. Seems justified to me. Girl in pink would possibly have died from stab wounds if she wasn't stopped. I'll still reserve final judgement in case of further facts coming out (not jumping to conclusions like the 13yr old one), but I can't see anything wrong with that on initial viewing.

is_that_so

Did you smash it wrote: »

https://t.co/uON9H4DyRH Hope that’s not geo’d

This sadly will become a case study video. Really not sure how it might have been dealt with differently as there is a whole lot going on there.

See it's all over-policing.
Cops respond to a call. Out from the crowd comes a girl getting the **** kicked out of her by a man. Then a girl tries to stab another girl.

Over-policing. Simple solution is to just not answer the calls any more. Let them do what they want.

Brussels Sprout

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Awwww. Someone's butt-hurt over the Chauvin decision and wants to let off some steam. You go right ahead kid. Howl into that void.

What? The Chauvin decision was correct in my view so you couldn't be more wrong there.

BanditLuke

The cops need to just go on strike en masse in the states. Let's see how the virtue signalling middle and upper classes like it then.

conorhal

Be right back wrote: »

That picture tells a whole different story.

The media has literally become the enemy of the people. They are devoid of any journalistic or editorial standards and deliberately stoke racial tension by perpetrating narratives devoid of fact, all for their own political agendas. It’s no wonder that public trust in the media is at an all time low.

GLaDOS

Had to watch the video a few times to figure out what was going on, all very frantic. On the face of it, it seems like a justified shooting and a correct decision under immense pressure by the policeman.

biko

This is what happened. I hope you see how fast this went down.
Trigger warning, a person is shot.

https://twitter.com/SteveJaay/status/1384793609464057856?s=20

hotmail.com

Any chance Irish people can leave Americans to deal with their own matters?

BanditLuke

conorhal wrote: »

The media has literally become the enemy of the people. They are devoid of any journalistic or editorial standards and deliberately stoke racial tension by perpetrating narratives devoid of fact, all for their own political agendas. It’s no wonder that public trust in the media is at an all time low.

The situation is beyond ridiculous now. I was watching Sky sports last night and all of a sudden a massive breaking news announcement about the Floyd case. Who gives a sh1t, i'm watching sports to get away from that rubbish.

Potential-Monke

hotmail.com wrote: »

Any chance Irish people can leave Americans to deal with their own matters?

Oh we are, doesn't mean we can't discuss them. Although discuss is a strong word, we all know how these threads end.

BanditLuke

biko wrote: »

This is what happened. I hope you see how fast this went down.
Trigger warning, a person is shot.

https://twitter.com/SteveJaay/status/1384793609464057856?s=20

Police officer deserves a medal. That's their job, to protect and serve the innocent against societies scum.

Mission accomplished

hotmail.com

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Are Oh we are, doesn't mean we can't discuss them. Although discuss is a strong word, we all know how these threads end.

Isn't that the weird thing, Irish people getting heated and crazy about these matters. You can't have a discussion about before it turns into some argument.

jimgoose

Appears to me to be unfortunate but necessary. The police officer had to make a difficult decision very fast. The timing of this thing is bloody awful, though.

stoneill

So I get he shot her, but she was standing right in front of another girl, he banged of 4 shots very quickly, could have easily hit the other girl.

Keyzer

hotmail.com wrote: »

Isn't that the weird thing, Irish people getting heated and crazy about these matters. You can't have a discussion about before it turns into some argument.

Pretty much every thread on Boards turns into an argument, nothing new here.

Its a discussion board, people discuss things, if you don't like the topic or don't want to read it then there's a simple solution - don't read it.

2Mad2BeMad

stoneill wrote: »

So I get he shot her, but she was standing right in front of another girl, he banged of 4 shots very quickly, could have easily hit the other girl.

She was a large target and he was quite close with training.
If he didn't shoot the other girl could of died from stab wounds.
Quick decision making and while he could of shot the other girl possibly killing her or injuring if he didn't shoot she was definitely getting stabbed.
Fair play to him for saving a life

Odyssey 2005

He was a good shot,I'll give him that.

stoneill

stoneill wrote: »

So I get he shot her, but she was standing right in front of another girl, he banged of 4 shots very quickly, could have easily hit the other girl.

But he didn't. The other girl would likely have been stabbed to death if he arrived a few minutes later or didn't do anything when he did arrive. Deserves a medal*.

*or locked up for being an obvious racist according to BLM - who overlook the fact that he saved a black girl from being stabbed.

cloudatlas

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Genuinely amazes me that there are people out protesting about this after seeing the video. Sad situation but necessary.

It's difficult to see a knife, if the poster didn't mention it I wouldn't have known.

Pa ElGrande

BanditLuke wrote: »

Police officer deserves a medal. That's their job, to protect and serve the innocent against societies scum.

Mission accomplished

You will be surprised. In the US their supreme court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens.

Officers Had No Duty to Protect Students in Parkland Massacre, Judge Rules

But police officers, in fact, generally are not under any legal obligation to protect citizens who are not in their custody.

“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”

The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.

Pa ElGrande

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

You will be surprised.In the US their supreme court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens.

You are misreading the judgment. It affirms the concept that the police owe no duty to protect any particular individual, not that the police have no duty to do their job. Their duty is a public duty owed to the public at large.

Basically it states that police cannot be held liable to you if you are a victim of a crime, unless their specific actions are a causal effect. Which is fair, I doubt there are many places where that would be the case. It is -not- an excuse for police not to do their jobs.

"A duty owed to the public, however, is no less enforceable because it is owed to "everybody""

and

"Dereliction in the performance of police duties may, therefore, be redressed only in the context of a public prosecution and not in a private suit for money damages"

Here SCOTUS clearly states that there is a duty to arrest. It merely is not enforceable by any individual.

Pa ElGrande

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

You will be surprised.In the US their supreme court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens.

You are misreading the judgment. It affirms the concept that the police owe no duty to protect any particular individual, not that the police have no duty to do their job. Their duty is a public duty owed to the public at large.

Basically it states that police cannot be held liable to you if you are a victim of a crime, unless their specific actions are a causal effect. Which is fair, I doubt there are many places where that would be the case. It is -not- an excuse for police not to do their jobs.

"A duty owed to the public, however, is no less enforceable because it is owed to "everybody""

and

"Dereliction in the performance of police duties may, therefore, be redressed only in the context of a public prosecution and not in a private suit for money damages"

Here SCOTUS clearly states that there is a duty to arrest. It merely is not enforceable by any individual.

TomTomTim

hotmail.com wrote: »

Any chance Irish people can leave Americans to deal with their own matters?

I'm personally fed up with it. You'd think that we were an American state the way our media and some of our people behave. We've plenty of our own issues to deal with, which are often overlooked, due to an obsession with American politics.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/world/north-america/protests-break-out-in-ohio-after-police-shoot-black-teenage-girl-20210421-p57l8l.html

Protests have begun!

Calahonda52

Student_111 wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/world/north-america/protests-break-out-in-ohio-after-police-shoot-black-teenage-girl-20210421-p57l8l.html

Protests have begun!

Whats your agenda here 111?
IMO he did well not to kill pinky as well.
Hope the car was okay:pac: