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US Police killing of 15 yo black girl Makiah Bryant MOD NOTE IN OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Danzy wrote: »
    "The Derek Chauvin verdict won’t stop cops murdering black people. We still aren’t safe"

    Headline in The Guardian.

    When that dramatic bs is allowed by an editor in a paper with a large readership, something has deeply gone wrong.

    Driving division pays handsomely for many activists.

    It's not affecting the Progressives in their leafy Suburbs.

    This extract is also from the Guardian. Note that it does not mention what happens just before she was shot.

    Also, anyone know why they use a capital letter for the word black and not for white?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Account with almost 50 million followers.
    I'd be looking over my shoulder if I was that policeman.

    https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1384951673530068994?s=20



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Be right back


    biko wrote: »
    Account with almost 50 million followers.
    I'd be looking over my shoulder if I was that policeman.

    https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1384951673530068994?s=20

    Shame on him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Wallet Inspector


    biko wrote: »
    Account with almost 50 million followers.
    I'd be looking over my shoulder if I was that policeman.

    https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1384951673530068994?s=20
    Jesus Christ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Be right back


    biko wrote: »
    I assume LeBron thought the girl with the knife's life mattered more than the girl without a knife.

    And that the policeman should have stood by and let her stab the girl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,053 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    biko wrote: »
    Account with almost 50 million followers.
    I'd be looking over my shoulder if I was that policeman.

    https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1384951673530068994?s=20

    Why? Can I tell his home address from that. Looking over his shoulder for what? Accountability? Accountability.


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    Overheal wrote: »
    Why? Can I tell his home address from that. Looking over his shoulder for what? Accountability? Accountability.

    Jesus! Are you saying it's ok to tweet that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,999 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    biko wrote: »
    She says they don't need police at knife fights.

    Well, stop calling the police then. Ring the ambulance instead.

    https://twitter. com/BreeNewsome/status/1384725341550305281?s=20

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    I can't understand this logic at all.
    The police force of any nation are there to uphold law and order.

    But she wants kids to be allowed to stab each other to death and the cops to let them at it.

    You couldn't make this stuff up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Wallet Inspector


    Overheal wrote: »
    Why? Can I tell his home address from that. Looking over his shoulder for what?
    Being harmed obviously.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    Overheal wrote: »
    Why? Can I tell his home address from that. Looking over his shoulder for what? Accountability? Accountability.

    Someone in his tens of millions of followers might take this as a call to action. The rough location of this police officer is known already . If something was to happen to the officer then James could be held partially responsible.

    It's not beyond the realms of possibility. Very irresponsible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,350 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    biko wrote: »
    Account with almost 50 million followers.
    I'd be looking over my shoulder if I was that policeman.

    https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1384951673530068994?s=20

    Stay classy lebron. Ffs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I can't understand this logic at all.
    The police force of any nation are there to uphold law and order.

    But she wants kids to be allowed to stab each other to death and the cops to let them at it.

    You couldn't make this stuff up.

    If only there was something a cop could do that wasn't either doing nothing or shooting a teenage girl 4 times... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Green Peter


    Sadly I think the best thing a policeman can do now after attending an incident where a black person is shot is to turn the gun on themselves. Not a great return for a nights public service and **** pay.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Overheal wrote: »
    Why? Can I tell his home address from that. Looking over his shoulder for what? Accountability? Accountability.

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    Foxtrol wrote: »
    If only there was something a cop could do that wasn't either doing nothing or shooting a teenage girl 4 times... :rolleyes:

    What specifically do you think the policeman should have done in this circumstance?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,671 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    She made the choice to pick up a knife to do harm, its her own fault she is dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,133 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    biko wrote: »
    Account with almost 50 million followers.
    I'd be looking over my shoulder if I was that policeman.

    https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1384951673530068994?s=20

    That's incitement to murder.

    The working class white man, saved a working class black woman from death.

    That he is a cop. Working class, etc is enough for the modern Left and theirs millionaire friends to hate him.

    They need a cause and something to scream about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Sadly I think the best thing a policeman can do now after attending an incident where a black person is shot is to turn the gun on themselves. Not a great return for a nights public service and **** pay.

    Police are paid way more than anyone of similar levels of training but sure keep making stuff up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,133 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    What specifically do you think the policeman should have done in this circumstance?

    He could have secured Pink top Lady's corpse and called in with a description of the killer and her accomplice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Sadly I think the best thing a policeman can do now after attending an incident where a black person is shot is to turn the gun on themselves. Not a great return for a nights public service and **** pay.

    Mod

    Really?!?

    Dont post in this thread again. Hyperbolic nonsense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Stay classy lebron. Ffs.

    Has he reputation for being thick?


  • Registered Users Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Green Peter


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Police are paid way more than anyone of similar levels of training but sure keep making stuff up.

    Similar levels of training, will you explain that one to me thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Halenvaneddie


    Great job, perp taken down and no innocent bystanders hurt


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Has he reputation for being thick?

    The opposite. Was a fan of his til right up to now but that's just beyond the pale. If he was stupid it'd be one thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,053 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Being harmed obviously.

    By what? By accountability?

    Where is the threat of harm? "YOURE NEXT (Hourglass) ACCOUNTABILITY"

    Where is the threat of harm?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Overheal wrote: »
    By what? By accountability?

    Where is the threat of harm? "YOURE NEXT (Hourglass) ACCOUNTABILITY"

    Where is the threat of harm?!

    Mod

    Calm yourself or you will lose your posting privileges.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Overheal wrote: »
    By what? By accountability?

    Where is the threat of harm? "YOURE NEXT (Hourglass) ACCOUNTABILITY"

    Where is the threat of harm?!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    If only there was something a cop could do that wasn't either doing nothing or shooting a teenage girl 4 times... :rolleyes:

    Did you see how fast he had to react, he done exactly the right thing with seconds to make a decision as to which one should be stopped, the one in pink or the one with the knife, good job by the cop, he should get a commendation for saving someone's life


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Similar levels of training, will you explain that one to me thanks

    Any jobs that require a similar level of qualification to apply (usually graduating high school at the very most) and such a short training period (farcical compared to most other countries).

    They are incredibly well paid for their qualifications and time to train


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,053 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Someone in his tens of millions of followers might take this as a call to action. The rough location of this police officer is known already . If something was to happen to the officer then James could be held partially responsible.

    It's not beyond the realms of responsibility. Very irresponsible

    No. There is no threat here and that far from flies near any legal standard for incitement. Which, anyone who has followed US politics in 2021 knows what range of things do not meet that prosecutorial standard and, this is definitely not one of those times where LeBron has opened himself up to any degree whatsoever of liability. He posted a widely circulated image of an officer known to be in controversy and said he was next for accountability. LeBron didn't dox him didn't share identifying information, like a phone number or a photo of his home address, etc. etc. any one of a million people can take something to mean something but that doesn't mean those people are criminally liable if you decide to pursue a violent criminal act when they had no effective interaction with you.

    tldr Biko is trying to draw a connection to why the BLM founder's house tweet was problematic to the point of reasonable fear of harm and this is, frankly, not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,053 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    [gifs]

    So you have no words to actually try to present as an argument for how there is a threat of harm?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Overheal wrote: »
    So you have no words to actually try to present as an argument for how there is a threat of harm?

    I'm treating the drivel you're posting with far more respect and attention than it deserves. You're welcome.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Did you see how fast he had to react, he done exactly the right thing with seconds to make a decision as to which one should be stopped, the one in pink or the one with the knife, good job by the cop, he should get a commendation for saving someone's life
    What specifically do you think the policeman should have done in this circumstance?

    Pulled out a taser instead of a gun. Shoot her once rather than four times.

    He is lucky he didn't end up accidentally hitting the girl you're claiming he was saving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,350 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Has he reputation for being thick?

    No.


  • Registered Users Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Pulled out a taser instead of a gun. Shoot her once rather than four times.

    He is lucky he didn't end up accidentally hitting the girl you're claiming he was saving.

    He's not lucky he's skilful with a gun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    The dangerous ****head deleted it now.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The dangerous ****head deleted it now.

    WHY?! WHERE WAS THE THREAT OF HARM!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    The dangerous ****head deleted it now.

    Most likely had a phone call from his lawyer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,053 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Jesus! Are you saying it's ok to tweet that?

    Actually yes.

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    If this is okay and deemed politically defensible then I am not even batting an eyelid at that tweet from LeBron. An emotionally charged tweet but not one that was an exception to the first amendment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    WHY?! WHERE WAS THE THREAT OF HARM!?

    Mod

    Don't post in this thread again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    SnuggyBear wrote: »
    He's not lucky he's skilful with a gun.

    :rolleyes:

    He has absolutely no control over what others in that situation did. The other girl kicks her off just as he is pulling the trigger then she takes one or more bullets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Pulled out a taser instead of a gun. Shoot her once rather than four times.

    He is lucky he didn't end up accidentally hitting the girl you're claiming he was saving.

    So you don't think the girl with the knife was going to stab pink girl, would you be comfortable letting that play out and seeing what would happen if you were the cop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,552 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    He has absolutely no control over what others in that situation did. The other girl kicks her off just as he is pulling the trigger then she takes one or more bullets.

    Should have played it safe , and let her get a few stabs in before trying to talk her down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Overheal wrote: »
    Actually yes.

    c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636.jpg

    If this is okay and deemed politically defensible then I am not even batting an eyelid at that tweet from LeBron. An emotionally charged tweet but not one that was an exception to the first amendment.

    Yeah, typical faux pearl clutching from some about a pretty mild comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Pulled out a taser instead of a gun. Shoot her once rather than four times.

    He is lucky he didn't end up accidentally hitting the girl you're claiming he was saving.

    Are you saying he wasn't trying to save the other girl. You can argue with the methods but if he wanted to he could have let the girl stab the other girl and then shoot her and claim the deceased was armed and evidently dangerous, (see stabbing victim) and also numerous other potential victims in the vicinity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Thank fook the girl in the pink top wasn't white. Cities across america would be in flames right now if she was.

    I wonder will policing in black neighborhoods be reduced now after all these incidents? If I was a cop over there I dunno if I'd be rushing to incidents in certain areas!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    The dangerous ****head deleted it now.

    What did he say?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    So you don't think the girl with the knife was going to stab pink girl, would you be comfortable letting that play out and seeing what would happen if you were the cop

    No, I said already what I would have done. First choice would be to use a taser, second choice physically involve myself, and worst case shot a single round.

    The cop had only arrived at the scene seconds before, he had absolutely no idea who the original aggressor was - he could be shooting a child who had been attacked and was defending themselves.

    Typical US cop - zero to a dead kid in seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,053 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The dangerous ****head deleted it now.

    I assume you mean LeBron?

    How is LeBron dangerous?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    No, I said already what I would have done. First choice would be to use a taser, second choice physically involve myself, and worst case shot a single round.

    The cop had only arrived at the scene seconds before, he had absolutely no idea who the original aggressor was - he could be shooting a child who had been attacked and was defending themselves.

    Typical US cop - zero to a dead kid in seconds.

    You're some man. You'd do all that in the couple of seconds that she's attempting to stab that girl.

    Also what happened before is irrelevant. He has to make a decision on what he is seeing there and then.

    Immediate threat to life required immediate use of force. Simple


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