Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

Le Bruise

rusty cole wrote: »

you keep saying "Cohorts" and "folk", like whom?? the uninitiated to Boards.
People are capable of making their own minds up and if not then so be it it doesn't mean you should hope for cheery picked articles which favour all Vaccines are great viewpoints.

I'm sure the "FOLK" in the Tuskegee syphilis trials would have liked the odd heads up no?

Just said the headline annoyed me, merely my opinion. Won't engage with you anymore as you seem hell bent on an argument (and I can't be arsed).

Van.Bosch

acer911 wrote: »

Does seem like it, although the report says last refresh at 03.00, whereas the older reports have last refresh around 08.00 so unless the detail is only partially updated?

If you add up the numbers in the 5 cohorts they don’t tally with the total, there is something wrong with it.

Galwayhurl

From what I've read, all the clots related to/not related to J&J were in women under the age of 50.

So if they make the cut off age 50 that would go a long way towards getting people vaccinated. AZ for over 60s. J&J for over 50s. Pfizer/BioNtech for all ages.

Turtwig

hmmm wrote: »

While the mRNA vaccines are great, the long-term data from the adenovirus vaccines looks very impressive. It'd be a shame to put all our eggs in one technology basket.

Agreed. Even if there was no pandemic these vaccines still have a role to play. I'm confident the risk groups for these adverse events and their cause will be identified. If the cause isn't identified we risk something similar occurring again in future.

Wolf359f

Van.Bosch wrote: »

If you add up the numbers in the 5 cohorts they don’t tally with the total, there is something wrong with it.

The breakdown of cohorts is too long and has to be scrolled down. They have started assigning doses to cohort 7, that's the one that's not visible and causing the difference in the totals.

irishlad.

Wolf359f wrote: »

The breakdown of cohorts is too long and has to be scrolled down. They have started assigning doses to cohort 7, that's the one that's not visible and causing the difference in the totals.

These are the numbers I got from geohive:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit#gid=502588836

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/vaccinations

NIMAN

I see the north will be open for 35 to 39 yr old before end of April.

They are motoring.

is_that_so

The European Medicines Agency has said the benefits of the Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccine outweigh the risks.

The National Immunisation Advisory Committee will examine the findings "over the next day or so", according to its chairperson, Prof Karina Butler.

Johnson & Johnson said it was ready to resume rolling out the vaccine in Europe.

iamwhoiam

lukas8888 wrote: »

I called the HSE help line to enquire are the 65 to 69 cohort vaccinated according to area as all i am seeing on this thread is mainly Dublin and Cork.I am 69 and registered last Thursday, the lady on the help line told me no it was not according to location, but then to my surprise she said not by descending age either.Registration was age based but seemingly 65 or 66 age group are as likely to be vaccinated before a 68 or 69 year old.

I think it does depend on your area and the capacity in the centre
I and three friends are already given dates in City west we are Age 68 , 67 And two 66
Three other friends on the north side ( so Helix or Croke Park ) have no dates yet
Age 68 and 67 .
So basically the south siders age 66 snd 67 will be done sooner that north siders age 68

Wolf359f

irishlad. wrote: »

These are the numbers I got from geohive:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cUZy6AMCwuA2zhtRuKK7cqMVgmhdDsGsZrFWJTkw9DY/edit#gid=502588836

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/vaccinations

Yeah that's certainly different than the HSE hub, but as noted it was updated at 3am and not 8am.
Cohort 7 has been added on the hub, you'll have to update the Google sheets!

Gregor Samsa

Infernal Racket wrote: »

I'd imagine it will speed things up for everyone. Half the quantity, half the time, get that needle in my arm quick sharp Mr Johnson...

Not to mention the fact that there's two Mr. Johnsons, which will speed things up even more.

Frank Bullitt

Turtwig wrote: »

Detected so far. Remember when posters here were saying the UK hadn't this issue?

It's highly likely the true incidence rate has not been detected yet. We don't know how either vaccine compares yet. Likely won't for some time.

Clots associated to Covid-19 are far far higher than any vaccine currently on offer.

rtron

I've got a yellow bottle in the bathroom for years and been waiting to wash my hair with it.

Ubbquittious

Don't worry there is a veritable army of little Chinese scientists under the command of the Chinese Communist Party in an underground lab coming up with a new variant to make this vaccine redundant very quickly.

Strazdas

Prof. Karina Butler's comments on J & J. Says NIAC will be examining the findings in 'the next day or so'.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1384543023749545986

lukas8888

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I think it does depend on your area and the capacity in the centre
I and three friends are already given dates in City west we are Age 68 , 67 And two 66
Three other friends on the north side ( so Helix or Croke Park ) have no dates yet
Age 68 and 67 .
So basically the south siders age 66 snd 67 will be done sooner that north siders age 68

Thank you,will obviously wait until i'm called but was it not meant to be descending age rather than five years all together and picked by lottery.

RobertKK

It was already approved, just suspended while the blood clots were investigated.

trellheim

Shot Plot Update as Sundays was just posted

New weekly total high 144793 shots in arms, previous high 129546 week ending 4/4/21

Beasty

pgj2015 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/news/two-fully-vaccinated-nursing-home-staff-test-positive-for-covid-19-40334239.html

Care to add some commentary rather than simply dumping a link?

The question is rhetorical BTW. Don't just provide links without any context

ddarcy

Hellrazer wrote: »

Werent all the clots with AZ after the 1st dose and not the second - if so its the same risk really.

There are very few second doses administered by AZ. So we still don’t know the implications yet with clotting. NIAC is probably hoping to get into on this before the second doses start go out en masse.

Harry Palmr

My sister only wants Mr Pfizer!

Russman

Just thought I’d update on the Citywest vaccination centre. Seems really well run and organised. My mother was in and back out to the car within about 50 mins total. I do think we got lucky and caught a bit of a window, as when we were leaving the queue was back out to the car park. From what the registration people told her, as was mentioned earlier, it’s people turning up an hour before time mixing in with people turning up 5 mins before their appointment.
Anyway she’s done now, delighted !

iamwhoiam

lukas8888 wrote: »

Thank you,will obviously wait until i'm called but was it not meant to be descending age rather than five years all together and picked by lottery.

In fairness I dont think its a lottery but rather to do with capacity in your local MVC . For City west for example my group of friends got texts and dates in order of age .

timsey tiger

Hellrazer wrote: »

Werent all the clots with AZ after the 1st dose and not the second - if so its the same risk really.

At a frequency 10 times higher, so I'd say ten times the risk for AZ.

greengrass88

NIMAN wrote: »

I see the north will be open for 35 to 39 yr old before end of April.

They are motoring.

It actually opened yesterday...my 35 year old sister and 2 of her friends went on and registered in the morning and were vaccinated in the sse arena before 8pm last night

Million to one risk of getting a blood clot.....if they vaccinated entire country,we wouldnt fill an vw golf


Get on with giving it to people ffs

silliussoddius

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Don't worry there is a veritable army of little Chinese scientists under the command of the Chinese Communist Party in an underground lab coming up with a new variant to make this vaccine redundant very quickly.

I heard they started making the vaccine microchips in the same factory, saves extra cash for Bill.

stephenjmcd

The HSE referenced earlier that AZ had changed their delviery for this week in the last 48hrs.

They've gone from 45k to 9k.

A further scheduled delivery of 165,000 Astra Zeneca doses on April 30th has been delayed until May 3rd.

To be honest we're lucky in the sense that we've a decent enough stockpile of it given the stopages and now it's limited use so shouldn't have too much of an impact.

Goes to show you can't rely on them. Will also probably feed into the NIAC decision on J&J

Larbre34

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Great news. The “one shot” jab will be a real boon in vaccinating, the more, vulnerable groups.

The J&J jab, one shot, 78% effective.

Pfizer and Moderna MRNA vaccines, 90%+ effective, yet 80% effective after ONE dose.

Lets get as many people as possible ONE dose of any of these three fantastic medicines and stamp on the last refuges of this virus on this island, then lets get our domestic economy up and running again.

Travel will probably have to be sacrificed for another couple of years until the global presence of the virus has dwindled, and thats tough, but that doesn't mean we should not get back fully enjoy living and working in one of the great countries of the World.

astrofool

Larbre34 wrote: »

The J&J jab, one shot, 78% effective.

Pfizer and Moderna MRNA vaccines, 90%+ effective, yet 80% effective after ONE dose.

Lets get as many people as possible ONE dose of any of these three fantastic medicines and stamp on the last refuges of this virus on this island, then lets get our domestic economy up and running again.

Travel will probably have to be sacrificed for another couple of years until the global presence of the virus has dwindled, and thats tough, but that doesn't mean we should not get back fully enjoy living and working in one of the great countries of the World.

The second jab is for increased efficacy and longevity. The dosage of J&J is such that a second jab isn't needed, but the same can't be done for the existing vaccine without new trials and changing of the dosages.