Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

Strazdas

Only 9000 doses of AZ will be delivered to Ireland between now and May 3rd according to the Irish Times.

That really puts the focus onto J & J now, seeing as it is a very similar vaccine.

Miike

odyssey06 wrote: »

The thing is if other countries, larger than us, start spacing out the doses... is there any point in us trying to toe the line due to this theoretical concern? Seems like worst of both worlds then.

I don't think the us and them discussion holds much baring here to be honest. You can buy most antibiotics OTC in some countries yet we still have antimicrobial stewardship and oversight programs working very well in developed nations.

The less chance the world gives this virus to infect people the less chance of a mutation event occurring. The more robust of an immune response a person has when exposed to the pathogen also means the less chance of an escape mutation outcome from a partially naive/immune host.

Goldengirl

Strazdas wrote: »

Only 9000 doses of AZ will be delivered to Ireland between now and May 3rd according to the Irish Times.

That really puts the focus onto J & J now, seeing as it is a very similar vaccine.

What reasons are they giving now for the reduction ?

Strazdas

Goldengirl wrote: »

What reasons are they giving now for the reduction ?

Irish Mirror are the ones who broke the story apparently :

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/hse-unable-say-vaccine-target-23950231

stephenjmcd

Strazdas wrote: »

Irish Mirror are the ones who broke the story apparently :

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/hse-unable-say-vaccine-target-23950231

It was said at the health committee earlier this afternoon. HSE said AZ informed them in the last 48hrs.

165k due in on the 3rd now

Stheno

This seems a bit late tbh

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1384584153254047746?s=19

Strazdas

Strazdas wrote: »

Only 9000 doses of AZ will be delivered to Ireland between now and May 3rd according to the Irish Times.

That really puts the focus onto J & J now, seeing as it is a very similar vaccine.

I thought they'd have more to go round considering Denmark have abandoned it completely and half of Europe is restricting it's use.

embraer170

Wasn't J&J first planned for the homeless and other groups that might be at risk of not attending for a second dose?

JPup

Goldengirl wrote: »

I think you are right .
Hiwever I think the "women" but has been discounted already has it not ?
The vaccinated were mainly female so they cannot as yet say that gender played part .

That's not what I read. The J&J doses in the US were given to the general population almost 50/50 to men and women. But the six cases of rare blood clots were all in young women. Different situation to AZ.

Russman

Goldengirl wrote: »

This has been the main worry as regards giving everybody some immunity with one jab , but not the best immunity as per clinical trials .
It's not just a question of " getting it done " , but doing it properly .
We are not in a panic mode....yet ..... as the UK were when they authorised extending the mRNA intervals between doses.
Who knows what impact that will have on their ability to stop the more serious variants from causing serious disease inthe next while ?
And as we are so close it makes sense to get it right so our little population doesn't have continuing issues.

Agree with this completely. I’m no expert but there does seem to be a slight conflict between “do you want it done quick or do you want it done right ?”
Obviously that’s a debate NIAC hopefully are having at the moment !

vienne86

I went to CityWest for my AstraZeneca today - I arrived into the queue at 16.05 for my 16.15 appointment. I eventually walked out, having got my dose and my 15 minute sitout, at 17.45. Queueing in the car park was a bit of a pain - that bit took an hour, and it was lucky it was a nice enough day. I must say that the place seemed very well organised, and everyone was very pleasant. It just felt as if there were not enough registration points (7 operational out of 24) and not enough lines of vaccination booths for the numbers of people who were there. I'm sure they would have figured out the numbers needed so I would say people arrived far too early for their appointments. When I was leaving, the queue was slightly shorer, but not much. I think they really need to sort this, because anyone who was there today will probably be aiming to get their earlier for their second dose, and anyone due to get vaccinated there in the next little while will be thinking the same if they have seen the comments.

But it's done, and I'm delighted!

Van.Bosch

vienne86 wrote: »

I went to CityWest for my AstraZeneca today - I arrived into the queue at 16.05 for my 16.15 appointment. I eventually walked out, having got my dose and my 15 minute sitout, at 17.45. Queueing in the car park was a bit of a pain - that bit took an hour, and it was lucky it was a nice enough day. I must say that the place seemed very well organised, and everyone was very pleasant. It just felt as if there were not enough registration points (7 operational out of 24) and not enough lines of vaccination booths for the numbers of people who were there. I'm sure they would have figured out the numbers needed so I would say people arrived far too early for their appointments. When I was leaving, the queue was slightly shorer, but not much. I think they really need to sort this, because anyone who was there today will probably be aiming to get their earlier for their second dose, and anyone due to get vaccinated there in the next little while will be thinking the same if they have seen the comments.

But it's done, and I'm delighted!

Congrats

iamwhoiam

vienne86 wrote: »

I went to CityWest for my AstraZeneca today - I arrived into the queue at 16.05 for my 16.15 appointment. I eventually walked out, having got my dose and my 15 minute sitout, at 17.45. Queueing in the car park was a bit of a pain - that bit took an hour, and it was lucky it was a nice enough day. I must say that the place seemed very well organised, and everyone was very pleasant. It just felt as if there were not enough registration points (7 operational out of 24) and not enough lines of vaccination booths for the numbers of people who were there. I'm sure they would have figured out the numbers needed so I would say people arrived far too early for their appointments. When I was leaving, the queue was slightly shorer, but not much. I think they really need to sort this, because anyone who was there today will probably be aiming to get their earlier for their second dose, and anyone due to get vaccinated there in the next little while will be thinking the same if they have seen the comments.

But it's done, and I'm delighted!

Delighted for you !! Woohoo

iamwhoiam

@vienne

So were there people ahead of you in the queue in City West who actually had later appointments ? Then that really should be sorted somehow ?

Vicxas

AZ really are doing FA to help their reputation.

vienne86

iamwhoiam wrote: »

@vienne

So were there people ahead of you in the queue in City West who actually had later appointments ? Then that really should be sorted somehow ?

I didn't ask, except for the person in front of me, who was scheduled for 16.25. I'm just speculating. But whatever the reason, it shouldn't be necessary to queue in a car park for that length of time.

Champagne Sally

I would of hoped that security at the gates of city west would check appointment time and if you’re too early tell you to come back later allowing those due for appointment more space, if this happened word would get around, don’t go too early they won’t let you in and it would lead to a more orderly system

vienne86

Another thing I should have mentioned. Note that it was only 65-69 year olds in Citywest today, but all women were asked, on two separate occasions, to confirm that they were not pregnant :eek:

timsey tiger

Champagne Sally wrote: »

I would of hoped that security at the gates of city west would check appointment time and if you’re too early tell you to come back later allowing those due for appointment more space, if this happened word would get around, don’t go too early they won’t let you in and it would lead to a more orderly system

Or just have a system where you are called when it is your turn. Text message or airport style info screen. Like for the drivers licence except socially distanced. The medical profession always seem to keep its customers waiting.

Miike

vienne86 wrote: »

Another thing I should have mentioned. Note that it was only 65-69 year olds in Citywest today, but all women were asked, on two separate occasions, to confirm that they were not pregnant :eek:

I would ask this question myself being honest. I know it sounds insane, but I never presume anything about anyone.

Champagne Sally

timsey tiger wrote: »

Or just have a system where you are called when it is your turn. Text message or airport style info screen. Like for the drivers licence except socially distanced.

Wouldn’t work in city west, it’s bottleneck upto hotel and then huge car parks but someone at gates could cortail the inflow by times I would think.

Marcusm

vienne86 wrote: »

Another thing I should have mentioned. Note that it was only 65-69 year olds in Citywest today, but all women were asked, on two separate occasions, to confirm that they were not pregnant :eek:

Post menopausal women even without ovaries can act as gestational surrogates with the appropriate hormone injections. Probably a much lower incidence rate than blood clotting with the vaccines though!

PhoenixParker

Champagne Sally wrote: »

Wouldn’t work in city west, it’s bottleneck upto hotel and then huge car parks but someone at gates could cortail the inflow by times I would think.

They could probably set the car park up with time slots = specific areas. Direct everyone to park in their time slots area. Have them wait there until it’s go time.

Champagne Sally

vienne86 wrote: »

Another thing I should have mentioned. Note that it was only 65-69 year olds in Citywest today, but all women were asked, on two separate occasions, to confirm that they were not pregnant :eek:

At 54 I would love if someone asked me if there was a possibility I was pregnant!!

noplacehere

Women are always asked if they re pregnant for medical stuff.... I didn’t pass a blind bit of notice of that question a few weeks ago

Micky 32

Champagne Sally wrote: »

At 54 I would love if someone asked me if there was a possibility I was pregnant!!

My cousin at age 51 gave birth last year :P

Goldengirl

vienne86 wrote: »

Another thing I should have mentioned. Note that it was only 65-69 year olds in Citywest today, but all women were asked, on two separate occasions, to confirm that they were not pregnant :eek:

Ya never know, somebody could be sneaking in pretending to be their mother! :pac:
Congratulations, Vienne86, and hope you are feeling OK.

TomOnBoard

vienne86 wrote: »

Another thing I should have mentioned. Note that it was only 65-69 year olds in Citywest today, but all women were asked, on two separate occasions, to confirm that they were not pregnant :eek:

It's "Out of an Abundance of Caution! ".

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/parenting/2019/09/06/oldest-woman-to-ever-give-birth-has-twins-at-74-years-old/2231598001/

TomOnBoard

Champagne Sally wrote: »

At 54 I would love if someone asked me if there was a possibility I was pregnant!!

Good Evening Ms Sally

Ahem!!

Is it possible that you might be pregnant?

Champagne Sally

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Good Evening Ms Sally

Ahem!!

Is it possible that you might be pregnant?

Unless it’s the immaculate conception Tom, I would say no! ðŸ˜