Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Stheno

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Tony has said no indoor dining in May or June.

Where did you see that?

Worse though is what MM said earlier

Asked on RTE’s The Week in Politics about indoor hospitality, Mr Martin said he understood that livelihoods are at stake in the sector.

“But what I said at the outset is anything we open now we want to keep open. We want to end this stop and start. The strategy is working in terms of controlling the virus, and that needs to be acknowledged.”

“For the summer I think outdoor has to be the theme.

That sounds like overkill to me

Jinglejangle69

Stheno wrote: »

Where did you see that?

Worse though is what MM said earlier



That sounds like overkill to me

Radio rte 1 just now.

Coveney all but confirmed it.

Stheno

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Radio rte 1 just now.

Coveney all but confirmed it.

Did he say NPHET or Tony are recommending no indoor dining for May and June or for longer?

Jinglejangle69

Stheno wrote: »

Did he say NPHET or Tony are recommending no indoor dining for May and June or for longer?

May and June at least.

corkonion

I suppose, allowing for inflation, your mandatory outdoor meal will cost €9.13 this summer, but on a brighter note, its rumoured that as a reward for our year of isolation, the outdoor eating time limit of 90 minutes may be increased to 100 minutes.

Indestructable

I've cancelled my staycation this morning. No point in going anywhere with no indoor dining. I was happy to support local economy even if it meant paying a bit more.

I don't understand how the publicans, hotel owners and restauranteurs are so quiet though. Surely they should be putting the pressure on, we really are a docile lot.

Might get abroad later in the year.

B2021M

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Simon Coveney has reinforced this depressing scenario on Radio 1 now: "We are awaiting Tony's position on hospitality by Wednesday, and we will make a decision based on this recommendation".

If you're a traditional pub owner, get ready for another three barren months. Abandoned and neglected by a government elected to "lead", d weshower of wasters on six figures achieving the square root of f-all.

Yes..waiting until wednesday!....almost impossible for anything to happen between now and Wednesday that could significantly affect the decision. We have, or will have, evidence from Israel and the UK about how safe it is to relax restriction A at X% vaccination level etc. There is no need for any 'advice' beyond that at this stage.

ypres5

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

May and June at least.

Wonder if that pub in Dublin still has that mural of Tony up....

B2021M

ypres5 wrote: »

Wonder if that pub in Dublin still had that mural of Tony up....

I think its been altered...Tony is now faced inwards towards the pub with his two fingers up.

SEPT 23 1989

they cant turn a profit with outdoor dining with a 15 person limit

you can forget about pubs this summer

hotels will find a way around it though

castletownman

Tony has "said".

Not Tony has "recommended" or "advised".

That sums up the cowardice and kowtowing of the government perfectly.

AlekSmart

gansi wrote: »

Maybe slightly off topic but home heating oil is going up as well on May 1st carbon tax. Adds 19 euro on a 900 liter tank.Maybe not something people are thinking about now as we come into summer but it all adds up quickly.

All an integral part of the Post Covid strategy....Just watch the Increase in Petrol/Diesel,Natural Gas,Meat Products,Alcohol,Foreign Travel (Air or Surface) and as many other items as can be fitted on to the new page.

The increasing ability of the hoi-polloi to sample the benefits of their labour had become worrisome to the wealthier folks who saw the crowed milling around their formerly secluded residences.

People of our Social Class will be prevailed upon to holiday at home,perhaps in a rejuvinated Butlins or other approved Carbon Neutral facility

The others...? well it helps to retain a little bit of mobility...yea ?

https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/tech-design/article/3001626/which-private-jets-do-tech-billionaires-jeff-bezos-bill

Be very clear this CO2 stuff is'nt appearing just now by accident or chance,it is the next step in the post Covid 19 campaign.

The questions as to mass Human responses in the Internet era have largely been answered inside 12 months,a true giant leap in Human Behavioural study ...what now remains is the reality of the follow through...

Ladies and Gentlemen...you ain't seen nuttin Yet !!

Graham

AlekSmart wrote: »

All an integral part of the Post Covid strategy....Just watch the Increase in Petrol/Diesel,Natural Gas,Meat Products,Alcohol,Foreign Travel (Air or Surface) and as many other items as can be fitted on to the new page.

The increasing ability of the hoi-polloi to sample the benefits of their labour had become worrisome to the wealthier folks who saw the crowed milling around their formerly secluded residences.

People of our Social Class will be prevailed upon to holiday at home,perhaps in a rejuvinated Butlins or other approved Carbon Neutral facility

The others...? well it helps to retain a little bit of mobility...yea ?

https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/tech-design/article/3001626/which-private-jets-do-tech-billionaires-jeff-bezos-bill

Be very clear this CO2 stuff is'nt appearing just now by accident or chance,it is the next step in the post Covid 19 campaign.

The questions as to mass Human responses in the Internet era have largely been answered inside 12 months,a true giant leap in Human Behavioural study ...what now remains is the reality of the follow through...

Ladies and Gentlemen...you ain't seen nuttin Yet !!

Apparently not. Each time I think we've reached peak conspiracy theory someone proves me completely wrong.

ypres5

Indestructable wrote: »

I've cancelled my staycation this morning. No point in going anywhere with no indoor dining. I was happy to support local economy even if it meant paying a bit more.

I don't understand how the publicans, hotel owners and restauranteurs are so quiet though. Surely they should be putting the pressure on, we really are a docile lot.

Might get abroad later in the year.

As other posters have said before me and as I've come to the same conclusion myself, the only way an irish person will experience complete normality this year is if they go abroad

GiftofGab

Anybody voting for this government again in the next election needs their head examined..the government is running this country into the ground and should never be given even the slightest bit of power again.

They're keeping legitimate businesses closed with no regard for business owners, jobs, economy, mental health and general wellbeing.

ypres5

castletownman wrote: »

Tony has "said".

Not Tony has "recommended" or "advised".

That sums up the cowardice and kowtowing of the government perfectly.

I think part of that phrasing is that when this whole thing goes tits up, the government can try and drop holohan and nphet in the **** and abdicate as much responsibility themselves

AlekSmart

Deleted User wrote: »

Simon Coveney has reinforced this depressing scenario on Radio 1 now: "We are awaiting Tony's position on hospitality by Wednesday, and we will make a decision based on this recommendation".

If you're a traditional pub owner, get ready for another three barren months. Abandoned and neglected by a government elected to "lead", shower of wasters on six figures achieving the square root of f-all.

I'd differ on this.

Governments are elected to GOVERN.

Leadership is secondary.

In modern Western society,Leadership has not been seen as important since the mid point in WW2,and indeed the likes of Churchill,oft described as a Leader,was fairly rapidly slapped in the immediate post war scramble.

America's recent toe-in-the-water with "Leadership" in the old sense,came to an abrupt end in January,as the Political balance was readjusted to bring true power back to those who could be trusted not to get too high on it...;)

So too is it with the rest of the Western World,as state after state returns compliant and respectful Politicians each of whom will check their actions by referencing the experts and doing as they are told.

PS: This stands for the Western World...the East and points beyond tend to be less concerned with the optics...something which may yet be impressed upon us Westerners in a very real fashion

Corholio

GiftofGab wrote: »

Anybody voting for this government again in the next election needs their head examined..the government is running this country into the ground and should never be given even the slightest bit of power again.

They're keeping legitimate businesses closed with no regard for business owners, jobs, economy, mental health and general wellbeing.

Bringing in MHQ will be enough for a lot to vote for these again sadly.

AlekSmart

Graham wrote: »

Apparently not. Each time I think we've reached peak conspiracy theory someone proves me completely wrong.

Well keep up with things then....no snoozing down the back !! :eek:

Sammy2012

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

People were called paranoid and described as doom mongers on here for saying this summer would be worse than last despite the fact we have vaccines now.

Last summer we had indoor dining and could travel.

Surely we will have something like last summer. No matter what they are saying now they can't realistically keep all indoor dining closed ALL summer? We are going across the country at the end of June and we've decided even if there is a ban still on travel to different counties we are going anyway. No we can cook or get take aways but id love to be able to go to the restaurant but it won't stop us going. Reason being we have been stuck at home for the last 10 months and will be glad to get away. We did get away for a few nights last summer. People will still travel for staycations and the government know this so I can't imagine a lot of things being kept closed all summer.

Penfailed

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Tony has said no indoor dining in May or June.

Not surprising really.

Penfailed

km79 wrote: »

What will that mean for hotels .........we all know that it wont happen in July or possibly august either ......and then sure then we are nearly hitting winter again under the govts reinterpretation of the seasons

No we don't.

Corholio

Penfailed wrote: »

Not surprising really.

Going to play Devils advocate :P but we didn't really expect it in May anyway? Mid-June is when I thought it should be aimed for.

UDAWINNER

Makes me laugh at people think we'll be allowed foreign holidays in June, we may not even have Inter County Travel by then

suicide_circus

Penfailed wrote: »

Not surprising really.

It should be. The majority of the vulnerable are now vaccinated.

Stheno

Corholio wrote: »

Going to play Devils advocate :P but we didn't really expect it in May anyway? Mid-June is when I thought it should be aimed for.

Mid June for indoor is fine imo. I think outdoor should be sooner but no sign of that either

KanyeSouthEast

Penfailed wrote: »

Not surprising really.

What’s your feeling on when inter county and foreign travel will be allowed and indoor dining?

Penfailed

AlekSmart wrote: »

All an integral part of the Post Covid strategy....Just watch the Increase in Petrol/Diesel,Natural Gas,Meat Products,Alcohol,Foreign Travel (Air or Surface) and as many other items as can be fitted on to the new page.

The increasing ability of the hoi-polloi to sample the benefits of their labour had become worrisome to the wealthier folks who saw the crowed milling around their formerly secluded residences.

People of our Social Class will be prevailed upon to holiday at home,perhaps in a rejuvinated Butlins or other approved Carbon Neutral facility

The others...? well it helps to retain a little bit of mobility...yea ?

https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/tech-design/article/3001626/which-private-jets-do-tech-billionaires-jeff-bezos-bill

Be very clear this CO2 stuff is'nt appearing just now by accident or chance,it is the next step in the post Covid 19 campaign.

The questions as to mass Human responses in the Internet era have largely been answered inside 12 months,a true giant leap in Human Behavioural study ...what now remains is the reality of the follow through...

Ladies and Gentlemen...you ain't seen nuttin Yet !!

Ways to combat climate change have been talked about since the 80s. Remember CFCs? It's not the next step in the Covid campaign. It's been going on for years.

Penfailed

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

People were called paranoid and described as doom mongers on here for saying this summer would be worse than last despite the fact we have vaccines now.

Last summer we had indoor dining and could travel.

Not in May and June.

Penfailed

suicide_circus wrote: »

It should be. The majority of the vulnerable are now vaccinated.

It's Holohan though. I'm certainly not surprised by his utterances.