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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    The difference in opinion from reading the ‘when will it end’ thread to this thread is mind blowing, almost feels like two different viruses on two different worlds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    7769 doses on Saturday, is it possible that they will achieve the 100,000 that they were predicting for last week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    Waiting for additional data is not "getting it wrong". This isn't a game of Russian Roulette.

    No its not a game of Russian Roulette what this is is a emergency.

    So if you could move out the queue and wait for the data you require that will also make you happy, and let us who are willing to take the Oxford vaccine take it this would also help to speed things up.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,500 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    nocoverart wrote: »
    The difference in opinion from reading the ‘when will it end’ thread to this thread is mind blowing, almost feels like two different viruses on two different worlds.

    yeah, I was just viewing some of the posts in that thread morning. But in reality it is the same 2-3 people just repeating their version of worst case scenario ad nauseam. Obviously we can't know the effectiveness of vaccines 100%, but most indications point to a high degree of protection against getting ill, so the point that come winter we will have a big spike in hospitalisations isn't based in anything solid and it is just a worst case scenario.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭Apogee


    7769 doses on Saturday, is it possible that they will achieve the 100,000 that they were predicting for last week?


    AstraZeneca cancelled/rescheduled 25,000 doses due last Friday/this week. Whether that accounts for the likely shortfall or not is unclear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Irish Aris wrote: »
    yeah, I was just viewing some of the posts in that thread morning. But in reality it is the same 2-3 people just repeating their version of worst case scenario ad nauseam. Obviously we can't know the effectiveness of vaccines 100%, but most indications point to a high degree of protection against getting ill, so the point that come winter we will have a big spike in hospitalisations isn't based in anything solid and it is just a worst case scenario.

    I just can’t come to understand how a few people clearly don’t want this to end. Look for the worst case scenario in everything and make out like the worst outcome is a given. The fact we even have these Vaccines at this stage is like a miracle in my opinion.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,251 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Disappointing that we likely won't hit the 100k for last week, but the numbers Tuesday-Friday show we should be able to hit it going forward.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭seansouth36


    nocoverart wrote: »
    I just can’t come to understand how a few people clearly don’t want this to end. Look for the worst case scenario in everything and make out like the worst outcome is a given. The fact we even have these Vaccines at this stage is like a miracle in my opinion.

    The "open everything yesterday" group and the "restrictions will never end" group both engage in magical thinking, and both are like children refusing to accept reality. They have a point of view, and no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,470 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Apogee wrote: »
    Sat No: 7,769 administered (Impact of AZ cancelled order?). Mon-Sat: 77,557.

    545564.jpg

    Likely the AZ 25k being moved to this weeks order


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,470 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    Disappointing that we likely won't hit the 100k for last week, but the numbers Tuesday-Friday show we should be able to hit it going forward.

    Would have been hit had AZ not moved 25k doses from last weeks deliveries to this week / next.

    We're reliant on supply as has been said previously. Should be able to make up thr 25k in the next week or so


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,251 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Would have been hit had AZ not moved 25k doses from last weeks deliveries to this week / next

    Yeah reading that now. Better it's a supply issue out of our hands than an issue with rollout itself.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    I think they were considering funding their own vaccine production if it turns out to be an annual thing i.e. their own supplier deals.
    We all have suppliers of flu' vaccines so why would this be any different? It's expensive business and there are no guarantees at all that a brilliant in vitro candidate will not fail somewhere along the line. It is also very blinkered thinking in the sense that are banking on a vaccine only approach. At the very heart of this is vaccine nationalism and annoyance at the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭trellheim


    AstraZeneca cancelled/rescheduled 25,000 doses due last Friday/this week.

    Where was this information published ? By my count we should have had 620,000 all vaccs into the country by 28 feb but we are way off that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,996 ✭✭✭Russman


    trellheim wrote: »
    Where was this information published ? By my count we should have had 620,000 all vaccs into the country by 28 feb but we are way off that

    Prof McCraith mentioned it in the RTE radio interview linked a few pages back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭Cork2021




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Cork2021 wrote: »

    ISAG would likely run with "variants of concern" and nothing else in that tweet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,968 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Cork2021 wrote:
    Good news!!
    How do you make that out as good news? It's non-committal, there's no information of worth there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Russman wrote: »
    That radio interview has me feeling the most positive about this that I've been in a good while. Beginning to look like we're on the home stretch with this.

    Linking back up from the above that is still weird - we should have had 620,000 in Jan/Feb, with another 600,000 in march to come

    and according to stats its only at around 450,000 so miles off the pace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Apogee wrote: »
    AstraZeneca cancelled/rescheduled 25,000 doses due last Friday/this week. Whether that accounts for the likely shortfall or not is unclear.

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1366701594302181393


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭trellheim


    moderna still way low should be at 40,000 , Pfizer about right - 356 vs 390 predicted , but AZ way off 62 vs 190 predicted am I the only one doing the sums here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,617 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    titan18 wrote: »
    We should be reaching out to the UK and US imo. We already left Pfizer vaccines go that other EU countries didn't buy and Denmark and Germany for extra as a result. UK, and NI, in particular could be in a position to help come May or so


    The US is no help, they wouldn't even help out Canada which has done even fewer then Ireland has.

    The UK sending more vaccines in May is of limited help as there will likely be plenty of vaccine in May and the limitation then becomes deploying it. Perhaps you could get a few hotels and fill them with UK trained vaccinators and use them as centres, but you would probably only gain a week or two anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Gaining a week or two would be huge in the fact that easing restrictions is being tied in part to the vaccination program

    The amount you'd spend on extra vaccines would be made up for in less PUP payments

    We need to do everything to get as many vaccines as soon as possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    nocoverart wrote: »
    The difference in opinion from reading the ‘when will it end’ thread to this thread is mind blowing, almost feels like two different viruses on two different worlds.

    My favourite is the one liner “ vaccines won’t be making any difference at all” not to mention the excuses of the Israel data “ oh it’s because they’re still in lockdown with restrictions is the real reason why the drop in stats.” :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    nocoverart wrote: »
    The difference in opinion from reading the ‘when will it end’ thread to this thread is mind blowing, almost feels like two different viruses on two different worlds.


    The same matter can be seen likewise from the other side :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    The same matter can be seen likewise from the other side :D

    But one is based on actual facts like you’ll find plenty of on this thread but not pulled out of between ones cheeks like on the other thread that are full of so called experts. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    wadacrack wrote: »
    But also quite annoying that we've had weeks of panic before somebody said "actually it may not be such a problem".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    is_that_so wrote: »
    But also quite annoying that we've had weeks of panic before somebody said "actually it may not be such a problem".

    Who created the panic? The media and social media.
    Half finished studies. it's not CSI where results of tests are done over night

    when proper testing and results are given time it's often not as bad as first made out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    wadacrack wrote: »

    Plus, most likely, against anything else that has the 484K mutation in it. In addition, mixing the WT and 484K shots could induce a much broader response that's not specific to any single variant. Just giving a single dose to convalescents seems to do that already quite well.


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  • Posts: 543 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://apnews.com/article/merck-help-make-johnson-johnson-vaccine-9ca6f1f4c502b095531926a53abe7262

    Merck have agreed to help Johnson & Johnson with vaccine production.


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