Athletics 2021

Chivito550

Cartman78 wrote: »

Ingebrittsen and the Belgian lad fist bumping as they crossed the line a couple of yards ahead of the Dutch fella who led all the way around....haven't seen anything like that before in a race tbh.

Can't warm to Ingebrittsen at all....a very talented athlete for sure but something unlikeable about him

Bolt used to do that. I think it was himself and DeGrasse smiling and looking at each other as they comfortably qualified.

It's all good craic. We need personalities.

Chivito550

Hamachi wrote: »

She’s by far the fastest 200m runner in the race.

She and her coach describe the way she runs 400m indoors as ‘controlled suicide’.

True, but don't underestimate the disadvantage of her lane draw.

Hamachi

Chivito550 wrote: »

It's all good craic. We need personalities.

It comes across as arrogance though, not good craic with Jakob.

His comments about Marcin Lewandowski being twice his age and losing his speed, were borderline obnoxious. Talented athlete, but not likeable.

Chivito550

Hamachi wrote: »

It comes across as arrogance though, not good craic with Jakob.

His comments about Marcin Lewandowski being twice his age and losing his speed, were borderline obnoxious. Talented athlete, but not likeable.

At least he gets people talking. That's what we want in our sport.

Too many boring athletes out there. Personalities are important for the profile of the sport.

Not everyone liked McEnroe for example, but he got people talking about tennis.

Re Lewandowski, there's a healthy rivalry there. No doubt Jakob has the utmost respect for a guy who has beaten him twice in major championships in 2019.

jamule

Chivito550 wrote: »

At least he gets people talking. That's what we want in our sport.

Too many boring athletes out there. Personalities are important for the profile of the sport.

Not everyone liked McEnroe for example, but he got people talking about tennis.

Re Lewandowski, there's a healthy rivalry there. No doubt Jakob has the utmost respect for a guy who has beaten him twice in major championships in 2019.

he is brilliant for the sport and hopefully will be for many years.

jamule

good stuff from Lavin. Q and a pb

Lambay island

Sarah Lavin with PB and qualification. Felt sorry for the Romanian athlete with the false start. Instant disqualification over 60 metres when fast start needed seems harsh.

jamule

Lambay island wrote: »

Sarah Lavin with PB and qualification. Felt sorry for the Romanian athlete with the false start. Instant disqualification over 60 metres when fast start needed seems harsh.

Not really, its a basic skill requirement for the event.

Lambay island

jamule wrote: »

Not really, its a basic skill requirement for the event.

Ah yeh, I'm not questioning the rule or anything. Nerves just play a major part at that level.

walshb

jamule wrote: »

Not really, its a basic skill requirement for the event.

I still feel sorry for her

And it was more a rule change to speed things up as much as anything to do with a skill...It's not a skill. It's discipline.

And to eliminate possible gamesmanship...

The false start rule has changed dramatically through the years...

28064212

jamule wrote: »

good stuff from Lavin. Q and a pb

Third PB in 10 days!

walshb

28064212 wrote: »

Third PB in 10 days!

If this was an athlete from any other country you'd have the usual suspects on here claiming this, that and the other.

The Black Oil

Chat with Konstanze Klosterhalfen who was mentioned earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mrYQ1AmQg

Posting re Craig Engels because when he next turns up in an 80s music video it'll be account of his hair. :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzRdBKne9u0

API

The Black Oil wrote: »

Chat with Konstanze Klosterhalfen who was mentioned earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mrYQ1AmQg

Posting re Craig Engels because when he next turns up in an 80s music video it'll be account of his hair. :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzRdBKne9u0

That's the first time I've watched Konstanze Klosterhalfen being interviewed though shes been on the circuit a long time.
Shes a joy to watch.

I cant watch the other guy, hes so in love with himself and the camera its painful. Luckily he has the talent to back it up.

OOnegative

walshb wrote: »

If this was an athlete from any other country you'd have the usual suspects on here claiming this, that and the other.

If you feel the need to argue with someone I can make such accusations to keep you happy.........

API

Hamachi wrote: »

It comes across as arrogance though, not good craic with Jakob.

His comments about Marcin Lewandowski being twice his age and losing his speed, were borderline obnoxious. Talented athlete, but not likeable.

I'd tend to agree with you. With Bolt it was more showmanship in a humorous way with his OTT Bolt lightening imitations etc.

Maybe its just that in general Jamaicans seem relaxed and chilled and Nordics seem more serious....


His talent is obviously a pleasure to watch and much needed.

Hamachi

API wrote: »

That's the first time I've watched Konstanze Klosterhalfen being interviewed though shes been on the circuit a long time.
Shes a joy to watch.

If you speak any German or can find closed captions, there’s quite a few interviews with her in the German media.

She’s a very impressive athlete and person. I watched a particularly combative interview with her in the leading German weekly sports show where the moderator virtually accused her of doping because she trains under Pete Julian in Oregon. She handled a difficult situation very well.

She also receives a significant amount of abuse on German social media for her weight. Some of the comments I’ve read are truly appalling. It’s water off a ducks back though. Despite her timid exterior, she’s clearly very strong mentally and is a warrior on the track. I see an Olympic gold medal in her future.

walshb

Just heard Tobin qualified for 3000 final. Delighted for him.

walshb

OOnegative wrote: »

If you feel the need to argue with someone I can make such accusations to keep you happy.........

No.

Best to keep this thread on topic.

API

Hamachi wrote: »

If you speak any German or can find closed captions, there’s quite a few interviews with her in the German media.

She’s a very impressive athlete and person. I watched a particularly combative interview with her in the leading German weekly sports show where the moderator virtually accused her of doping because she trains under Pete Julian in Oregon. She handled a difficult situation very well.

She also receives a significant amount of abuse on German social media for her weight. Some of the comments I’ve read are truly appalling. It’s water off a ducks back though. Despite her timid exterior, she’s clearly very strong mentally and is a warrior on the track. I see an Olympic gold medal in her future.

Yeah, I'm not going to lie I have tended to feel a bit suspicious of anyone training on the Oregon project especially athletes who improved a lot like Hassan.

I have also seen some nasty comments about her weight and her form.

She's obviously a very strong athlete, I havn't heard of her having stress fracture problems. You wont get very far in middle distance with weight on you.

I agree with you about the medals in the Olympics, maybe not this summer (if it goes ahead) but you never know.

Chivito550

API wrote: »

Yeah, I'm not going to lie I have tended to feel a bit suspicious of anyone training on the Oregon project especially athletes who improved a lot like Hassan.

I have also seen some nasty comments about her weight and her form.

She's obviously a very strong athlete, I havn't heard of her having stress fracture problems. You wont get very far in middle distance with weight on you.

I agree with you about the medals in the Olympics, maybe not this summer (if it goes ahead) but you never know.

She got bronze in Doha. She has every chance of a medal in Tokyo.

API

Chivito550 wrote: »

She got bronze in Doha. She has every chance of a medal in Tokyo.

I'd love to see her medal, we'll see if it transpires.

yerwanthere123

Hamachi wrote: »

If you speak any German or can find closed captions, there’s quite a few interviews with her in the German media.

She’s a very impressive athlete and person. I watched a particularly combative interview with her in the leading German weekly sports show where the moderator virtually accused her of doping because she trains under Pete Julian in Oregon. She handled a difficult situation very well.

She also receives a significant amount of abuse on German social media for her weight. Some of the comments I’ve read are truly appalling. It’s water off a ducks back though. Despite her timid exterior, she’s clearly very strong mentally and is a warrior on the track. I see an Olympic gold medal in her future.

What do you think will be her best/most competitive distance? I think she could maybe go sub 30 for 10k, but with Hassan and Gidey on the scene I can't see Koko ever winning a gold there.

Regarding the NOP comments I think in Klosterhalfen's defence she was only ever there a matter of weeks.

API

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

What do you think will be her best/most competitive distance? I think she could maybe go sub 30 for 10k, but with Hassan and Gidey on the scene I can't see Koko ever winning a gold there.

Regarding the NOP comments I think in Klosterhalfen's defence she was only ever there a matter of weeks.

Gidey has really come on, there so much competition in the 10k. I don't see her getting a medal. Maybe 4th or 5th.

yerwanthere123

API wrote: »

Gidey has really come on, there so much competition in the 10k. I don't see her getting a medal. Maybe 4th or 5th.

Maybe bronze at a push, but she'd still be battling against the likes of Tirop and Obiri for that. I'm already looking forward to the 10k in Tokyo if it happens, could see Hassan and Gidey going down to the wire, with an even closer finish than in Doha.

API

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Maybe bronze at a push, but she'd still be battling against the likes of Tirop and Obiri for that. I'm already looking forward to the 10k in Tokyo if it happens, could see Hassan and Gidey going down to the wire, with an even closer finish than in Doha.

Exactly, I totally agree with you. Its going to be such an exciting race and will go down to form and tactics on the day since its so competitive. Such a fantastic field. I still don't see Koko beating the Africans though.

Chivito550

Just on the Koko craic, is that a silly nickname the Americans gave her? Never heard that name used for her til she moved there.

API

Chivito550 wrote: »

Just on the Koko craic, is that a silly nickname the Americans gave her? Never heard that name used for her til she moved there.

lol, I know it reminds me of Koko the clown. I've only heard it a few times but the only time I've heard a commentator saying it was at the Texas meet.
I don't think they'd get away with it on the BBC etc.

That's nothing compared to the ESPN commentators talking casually about Allie O's weight.

Hamachi

Chivito550 wrote: »

Just on the Koko craic, is that a silly nickname the Americans gave her? Never heard that name used for her til she moved there.

To be fair to the Americans, it’s not them. It’s a nickname her parents and brothers gave her when she was a child, because her full name is so long to pronounce.

Konstanze is quite an old fashioned German name. It would like a young Irish woman being called Mary. Klosterhalfen is also quite an unusual German family name. I never heard it in the 10 years I lived there.

It’s just as well they didn’t start calling her KoKlo. Klo is the German slang for toilet, like the bog or the jacks in English

Hamachi

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

What do you think will be her best/most competitive distance? I think she could maybe go sub 30 for 10k, but with Hassan and Gidey on the scene I can't see Koko ever winning a gold there.
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You’re totally right. I see her more like a young Paula Radcliffe. I see her winning the Olympic marathon in 2028. I think the marathon will ultimately prove to be her best event.